i know at that gni established assessment for members on its progress and implementing the gni principles. how do you think that companies can start to benchmark their progress on human rights defender protection and you know, how can multi-stake holders initiate these processes. >> it's been a really, really, really rich conversation and i think the question how do we sort of take this forward and measure progress is a really important one. so, gni has a framework and we've been for 15 years, we're a multi-cycle organization, we ever tech companies, not only internet, cloud providers, structure providers, all of whom sort of interface with free expression and privacy slightly differently, depending on the products and services they provide. but all of them have obviously by virtue of being part of gni made a commitment. and that commitment has broken down in the principles and implementation guidelines and we have a periodic assessment product that each company goes through and in that process that company will bring in an independent third party which we accredit to review the steps the