of records in the president's office, then of president kuchma, in which he reports to kuchma that gongadzeas written a letter to the prosecutor general of ukraine, and kuchma replies to him, why all the bullshit, i speak in the original language, why the entire ussr should write to the prosecutor general, it is necessary to do something in this regard, well, i am already adding this, and but then between july and august, these surveillances stopped a little, then kravchenko replied to kuchma that he is now playing the script a little bit, he will change the path, in what way he will deal with or do something with gongadze, this was also discussed in president kuchma's office, and again these ... surveillances resumed in september 2000. as for the execution, the matter is indeed complete, but in your opinion, what are your hopes, will those who ordered it murder, well, look, president kuchma wrote his biography, which was publicized in the guardian newspaper, my daughter, by the way, when she read this article... er, she was furious, wrote, wrote to the editor of this, this publication, the

, why it happened at all, who prevented gongadze, who gave orders to the security forces, you understandis is a strange situation, there are people who were employees of security structures, they should clearly say whose orders they were following, this is not some kind of gangster organization. it's the police, the security service, well, in principle, if you detain people, they tell you who gave them penakaz, but they didn't say it, which means that there is no such force that would force them to reveal any information, and there are no security forces structures of ukraine opportunities, even after so many years, how many years have already passed, to find out about what happened, the same thing, do you remember how the current president of ukraine talked about the detention of people who were accused of... and then there was the same distrust, and everyone said : listen, these are not these people, well, time has passed, these people have been released, as far as i understand, i don’t know at all if anyone is now accusing them of murdering sheremet, again, when these people were even

. , well, i will give you examples of murder georgy gongadze and pavla sheremet, you know who killed georgy gongand, i don't mean general pukach, who is in prison, who was, as it were, right there. the perpetrator of this crime, who was interested in the murder of gongadze, why did it happen in the first place, who prevented gongadze, who gave orders to the security forces, you understand, this is an amazing situation, there are people who were employees of the security forces, they should have clearly said, whose orders they were carrying out, it's not some gang organization, it's the police. service security, well, in principle, if you detain people, they tell you who ordered them, but they did not say this, which means that there is no such force that would force them to reveal any information, and the security forces of ukraine do not have the ability , even after so many years, how many years have already passed, to learn about what happened, the same with sheremet, do you remember how the current president of ukraine talked about the detention of people who were accused of murd

, why it happened in the first place, who prevented gongadze, who gave orders to the security forces, you understand, this is a strange situation, there are people who were employees of law enforcement agencies, they would have to clearly say whose orders they followed, this is not some kind of banditry. organization, that is , the police, the security service, well, in principle, if you detain people, they tell you who gave them penakaz, but they did not say this, which means that there is no such force that would force them to reveal any information, and the power structures of ukraine do not have the opportunity, even after so many years, as many years have already passed, to learn about what happened, also with chiremet, do you remember how the current president of ukraine talked about the detention people who were accused. in the murder of pavel sharemet, and then there was also the same mistrust, and everyone said: listen, these are not the right people, well, time has passed, these people have been released, as far as i understand, i do not know at all whether anyone is now acc

you know, i will repeat this the week before last, we even spoke with myroslava gongadze, because therehe case of heorhiy gongadze, a person who to some extent changed the history of an outstanding ukrainian journalist. and i just, you know, i thought about some kind of simple justice to this story, myroslava in america, the children of george and myroslava in america, and they got a good education, they are very, very, very beautiful girls, solomiya nana, and they are very patriotic, great , but we have them, we are losing them, because they seem to have no place here in ukraine, instead , potebenko has a special pension, he condemned himself. back, the same prosecutor general who told about the tarashachan body, falsified this whole case and so on, his children all work, and and and and sons-in-law and daughters-in-law all work in the prosecutor general’s office and in the courts, the administration of various higher ukrainian institutions, his grandchildren, their and their wives and husbands there also all work in the general prosecutor's office and in the courts of high jurisdictio

who was interfering with gongadze, who was giving orders to the security forces, you understand, thiss an amazing situation, there are people who were employees of the security forces, they should clearly say whose orders they were following, this is not some gang organization, this is the police, the security service , well, in principle, if you detain people, they tell you who gave them the order, but they did not say this, which means that there is no such force that would force them to reveal any information, and the power structures of ukraine do not have the ability, even after so many years, how many years have already passed, to find out about what happened, the same with sheremet, do you remember how the current president of ukraine talked about the detention of people who were accused of murdering pavel shremet, and then there was the same distrust , and everyone said, listen, it's not these people, well, time has passed, these people have been released, as far as i understand, i don't know. in general, does anyone now accuse them of murdering sheremet, again, when these peo

these cases, and you know the details of these cases, hetman, chornovol, the same yury kravchenko, and gongadze, and varankov, this former member of the state duma, that is, we seem to have some executors, and all executors receive either terms, and the version with sheremet had a history when the executors were apparently not those, or there was not enough evidence. in regard to that, antonenko and duke kuzmenko were hanged all this, and there is no evidence that they did it, why do we always have a problem with the investigation of political murders? well, political murders are one of the most difficult, for the reason that a politician always has many enemies, dozens of versions of a possible customer immediately arise, and secondly, as a rule , such murders are generously financed. and is preparing well if we are dealing with the psb, and i am personally convinced that the gangadze case, the shermet case, the voronenkov case, the i can't remember now, a journalist was killed in kherson before the war, and in the case of fayon, it 's the same handwriting, one of the murder bureau located in

other political murders, there are a lot of them. in 30 years, one can list vadym boyko, and georgy gongadze, and vyacheslav chornovol, many of these there were murders, as a rule, some executors answered, and sometimes they did not answer, but we never saw the masterminds on the dock, well, given the fact that we now have a person involved in the case, in relation to whom there are quite a few. evidence, to get closer to the suspicion, i think that there is probably some kind of trail behind him, or there is none, and which will make it clear to us whether to answer sergey, you say yes or no, to the question of whether this will be case number two regarding shremet, let me remind you, which ended in nothing, nothing, that is, everyone whom they suspected and loudly announced at press conferences, well, with due to the lack of evidence base, he is now at large and is not. criminals, even more military, volunteers, doctors, continue to protect the country, will this be story number two, like sheremet, let's see, i hope not, sergey, thank you, yanina, yanina sokolova, andriy yanitsky were gues

arrange internal swings, to quarrel ukrainians among themselves, so at one time they killed shirimet and gongadzel and poisoned yuvshchenko, this is so obvious. this young man is suspected of the murder of irina farion, he was for 2 weeks, they say, the neighbors sat on these chairs and benches near the house where farion lived, he was wearing a hat, glasses, warm clothes during... very hot weather, every day in the same the same clothes. the man did not even go to any store nearby to buy at least water, but was on duty in the yard from morning to night. after the shot the killer escaped through the entrance arch, here the dirt road begins and after 200 meters the exit to the main street. there is a surveillance camera here, but he studied the situation for a reason. the cctv cameras were not working at the time due to a power outage. they are seriously looking for irina farion’s killer, but it’s only a matter of time. in the b-52h of the us air force approached the border of our country. mig-29 and mig-31 fighters took off to intercept, forcing the americans to change course and preventing the r

in kyiv, i went to kyiv, and there was a story that it was actually connected with a murder georgy gongadzend a lot of different foreign experts came then, who conducted body examinations and so on, i was at one of those meetings as a representative of the institute of mass... information, i was then the editor-in-chief of the site, and ugh, eh , i remember, there was an expert from switzerland, so very, very sophisticated an older lady, very elegant, and she was offered some ukrainian chocolate, and she looked at it somehow so superior and so, and said, thanks, and took out a bar of swiss chocolate, and demonstratively began to eat it with coffee, and i and i , and i thought... can ukrainian chocolate now compete with swiss brands, would it be acceptable now, i think yes, it can conflict, ah, i think she was shown the chocolate that is in our store, so it will differ in quality of chocolate from, of course swiss, so that she... tasted the chocolate produced by our artisans in ukraine, those people are engaged in beam to bar with chocolate, this is chocolate produced from cocoa beans, cocoa

to find the customer, and we we know high-profile cases, including the murder of journalist heorhiy gongadzewhen years later they found the executor, the court decided it, but the customers, the names of the customers are unknown, we have a case with a journalist. pavlo sheremet, where there was a whole series in general, and they were accused, but including the suspect, including they were eventually released, that is , there are a lot of questions in society, it's all in the comments on social networks. finally, tell us if you think we have a minute left, the murder of irina farion, do you think it could be included in this the list, when either the names of the customers and even the executors are unknown to the public and the investigation, or when there is only, as you said, the executor, but the names behind are unknown. i think that the executor will be 100% possible , taking into account what we know now, to find and evidence base, however, the customer, all the same, i think, the investigation will be very difficult to prove why the customers, in my impression, are far away far abro

those successes and those their own virtues that she should demonstrate, let's remember the murder of gongadzee murder of sheremet, the murder, then, of sadikov, and finally, listen, dozens, dozens of murders of various kinds, including journalists, including public figures, the murder of chornovol, well, that's it, to say the least retrospectively, if we talk about very old times, even... if you take the times there, starting from 2014, after the revolution of dignity, i'm sorry, but even then, there were a huge number of questions for law enforcement agencies, and the latest is the murder of sheremet, the accusations, yes, antonenko, the accusations of dugar, the accusations of others, yes, yes, people who, which then simply fell apart, and i understand you, i understand why people do not trust... why people, even when a law enforcement officer comes out, starts talking, a lot of people just don't trust it, and even if it's true, even if it's true, even if the law enforcement officers did a great job, i believe that in this particular case with the murder of iryna farion , the law enforcemen

demonstrated those successes and those virtues that it should have demonstrated, let's remember the murder of gongadzee murder of sheremet, the murder, then sadikov, and... in the end, listen, dozens, dozens of murders of various kinds, including journalists, including public figures, the murder of chornovol, well, that's it, to put it that way very in retrospect, if we talk about the very old times, even if you take the times there, starting from 2014, after the revolution of dignity, i'm sorry, but even then, there were a huge number of questions for law enforcement agencies, and the latest one is murder. accusations, yes, antonenko, accusations of dugar, accusations of others, and yes, people who, which then just fell apart, and i understand you, i understand why people do not trust, why people, even when a law enforcement officer comes out, starts talking, a lot of people they simply don't trust it, and even if it's true, even if it's true, even if... the law enforcement did a tremendous job, i believe that in this particular case with the murder of iryna farion, the law enforcement did a tremendo

these cases and you know the details of these cases, hetman, chornovol, the same yury kravchenko, and gongadze, and sheremet, and varaninkov, this deputy of the former state duma, that is... we seem to have some executors, and all executors receive either terms, in the version with sheremet there was a story when they turned out to be executors, probably not those, or there was not enough evidence regarding the fact that all this was hanged on antonenko and duke kuzmenko, and there is no evidence that they did it, why we always have a problem with the investigation of political murders, well, political murders are one of the most difficult. for the reason that a politician always has a lot enemies, there are instantly dozens of versions of a possible customer, and secondly, as a rule , such murders are generously financed and well prepared, if we are dealing with the fsb, and i am personally convinced that the gangadze case, the shermet case, the voronenkov case, the case now i cannot remember, a journalist was killed in kherson before the war, er... and fayon's case, this is one and the same

let's remember the murder of gongadze, the murder of sheremet, the murder of sadikov, and finally, listen, dozens of murders of various kinds, including journalists. including public figures, the murder of chornovol, well, this is, if we talk like this, very retrospectively, if we talk about very ancient times, even if we take the times there, starting from in 2014, after the revolution of dignity, i apologize, even then, there were a huge number of questions for law enforcement agencies, and the last one was the murder of sheremet, accusations of yes, antonenko, accusations of dugars, accusations of others, yes, yes, people who, which then simply fell apart , and i understand you, i understand why people don't believe, why people, even when it comes out... starts talking, a lot of very people just don't believe it, and even if it's true, even if it's true, even if law enforcement has done a huge work, i believe that specifically in in this case with the murder of iryna farion , the law enforcement officers did a great job, uh, well, i believe that they did, but in this case , i don't thi

the main messages thrown at journalists who talk about corruption, well, let's recall the words of gongadzeaid that corruption is everywhere, it is also in developed democratic countries, but only from us, i emphasize, it depends on us what that level will be, and for that, if it depends on us, then both you and us, we have to talk about it, because being silent is not an option, if society is sick and we are... we understand that we are given resources for victory and reconstruction, then the one who steals these resources, or inefficiently distributes them, but most importantly steals, well, in essence, it is like metastases in the body of the state, well, during the war , not even metastases, in during the war we call this looting, and therefore he is a looter, panino, thank you, as always we are short of time, but we thank you for your participation. on our air iryna fedoriv, ​​our colleague and the head of public initiative golka. and to you, our viewers, we also want to thank you, because we asked you to donate in order to collect, collect up to 1,2000, and you have exceeded the task

benefit, they actually do something for zelensky, like, for example, every kuchma should have his guia gongadze, they get the murder of iryna farion in a cynical way, as the chekists always did. second, they receive a resumption of the discussion along the line of criticism of the russian-speaking defenders, and here, as they say, the third assault brigade may have been the customer, who opened the case against iryna farion's service? security of ukraine means the kid and the security service of ukraine is also the customer and who actually protected the language and on what basis can you stab society again on the language law, in a word, the benefit is on the side of the buyer, they are obvious and throw another degree along such lines, the third assault sbu and language, well, it’s simple is it readable or will it be possible to keep the balance now? or is this cynical murder, on the contrary, shaking society even now? i am sure that it will not shake society, but only unite it, and everything that does not kill us makes us stronger, and the fact that you now bent your fingers, i first have a

these cases and you know them. details of these cases, hetman, chornovol, the same yury kravchenko, and gongadze, and sheremet, and varaninkov, this former deputy. in the version with sheremet, there was a story when the performers turned out to be probably not those, or there was not enough evidence that all this was hanged on antonenko, on duke kuzmenko, and there is no evidence that they did it, why do we always have a problem with the investigation of political murders, well, political murders. are one of the most difficult for the reason that a politician always has many enemies, dozens of versions of a possible customer arise instantly, and secondly, as a rule, such murders are generously financed and well prepared. if we are dealing with the fsb, and i am personally convinced that the gangadze case, the shermet case, the voronenkov case, the i can't remember now, the journalist was killed in kherson before the war. er, and the matter, fayon, this, this is one and the same kidney, one, the murder bureau, which is located in moscow, in the premises of the former korb, it is always difficult

, well, a serious bell that really... there are certain precedents in our country before, even with gongadzekilled, but we do not know who was the mastermind of this murder, and unfortunately, we will probably never find out about it, we wanted to i wish we had as few unsolved cases as possible, so what are we talking about now about the international situation, hanna gubko, we are in touch with the head of the board of go, the network for the protection of national interests ans, glory to ukraine, hanno, glad to see, glory to the heroes , thank god, mutual, so what? what is the key story, so we understand that the president of the united states , joseph biden, has dared to take an extremely serious step, so to speak, against internal family opinion, that is, president biden gives the green light to kemela heris, yes vice president of the united states, on the other hand, there is a very strong signal from donald trump, i don't know whether to believe it or not, but donald trump promised to stop the war. with one phone call, well maybe two phone calls, so we have survived more than one elect

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been watching all my professional life and in moscow, and in kyiv, i remember the murder of georgy gongadzescow of galina storovoytova, i spoke with her a few days before this murder, i remember the murder in... moscow of anna politkovskaya, i we met her in the supermarket two days or one day before this murder, because we didn't want to far from each other and they discussed the problems of political terror in russia right there, well , they talked like that, and she also told me that i need to take care of security the way you are telling me now, but she was killed literally a few days later, just also in her own, in her own entrance, there, by the way, almost in the same house where she lived in moscow. galina storovoitova, who was killed in st. petersburg, i remember the murder of russian politicians there, serhii yushenkov, the famous democratic politician boris nimtsov there, just outside the windows of volodymyr putin in the kremlin, boris, i also remember, i spoke with him a few weeks before that, he had no idea that he could be killed, because he believed that in russia this idea o