you either one by governor. governor deval patrick. come on up. and, governor maura healey. so i did not have the privilege of covering governor dukakis caucuses or when he was running for president. his his race. but i certainly interviewed many, many times over the decades and was always so warm and generous with his time and journalists i think i can speak for just about all of us really enjoyed any to do an interview with governor dukakis. we always came away having learned something. so thank you for that, governor. i would like to start kick this panel off with. governor weld, so let's start with you. since you were the first governor to take reins after governor dukakis made the loan walk out of the state house. and for those of you assume that was probably the first time that governor weld and governor dukakis sort of passed each other on the statehouse steps, you'd be wrong. you didn't meet at that swearing in. in fact, you had more had met more than a decade earlier. governor weld, can you talk a little bit about your first encounters with governor dukakis? well, i

governor walz is the real deal.ook forward to continuing to work with him to bring normalcy back to washington. joining us at this moment is steve kornacki. good morning. so if you would break down for us the governor's background and what do we know about him? what impact does he bring to this race? >> i think that background small town background, the military background, democrats are hoping it's going it help him. as we look at our battleground map, they are hoping it's going to help in the three familiar battleground stauts. we talk about pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. and the reason why obviously you know from the electoral college standpoint why these are important, but the challenge for these democrats has been pretty straight forward for a long time now. democrats have been cleaning up, increasingly so in the suburbs of philadelphia, suburbs of pittsburgh, suburbs of droilt, suburbs of grand rapids. used to be hard core republican, much less so in the trump era. so democrats have been doing well in t

like, the governor-- they know his name. he's the governor.t just do a transaction that would draw attention. he does it in a place where they would notice, in his own name. and spitzer was sending these shady wire transfers to an obvious shell company, which soon revealed itself to be a front for a prostitution ring that the fbi was already investigating. once those dots got connected, the former sheriff of wall street was done for. he ran the rackets bureau at the manhattan d.a.'s office, so he knows the way this works, and to the extent that he says, "oh, i thought i'd get away with it"-- either that is simply an outright lie, or it is an indication of such massive self-deception that that also says something about what's going on and not going on in this guy's mind. right. after the first press conference, lloyd and silda spent a furious 61 hours trying to convince spitzer to remain and fight. and for the first time in his life, eliot spitzer chickened out. silda, along with me, is trying to convince him not to resign as governor. he humor

i couldn't get your governor. i couldn't get your governor so i sent in the national guard to save minneapolis. brad, you know, a lot of people may point to the anti-semitism that seems to have found at least some kind of home in your party for the uncommitted and unconstructed votes in certain states in this country and maybe you will court them, maybe you won't. this has to do with public safety and there is some criticism for tim walz. it is pretty serious. you say what? >> well, i'll say first of all it was a painful time for the black community in america. >> harris: it was a painful time for all of america. >> look what minnesota has done. they tried to heal. now ranked fourth by "u.s. news and world report" as one of the best states to live in the country. he -- medicaid and he has access to medical and family paid leave. the most family governor in the country and now and now one of the most pro-family in the united states. >> harris: we know it doesn't have to be played for a political gain. it's being pl

governor, he ran for renewal term as governor, ran for president. it never changed him and his sense of mission to be honest, progressive, and just never flagged. when his political career ended he applied exactly the same to his teaching career and he put the same effort and the same enthusiasm into teaching and correcting papers, teaming up with kitty to help refugees and never tried to make a penny to do this. he could have been a high-paid lobbyist, it wasn't in his dna, never, on the hard work of the causes that he believed in. second to the last word was frugality, it would be an incomplete portrait if i didn't paint the man in full. michael dukakis is anything, but quirky, but he did have one quirk and maybe just this one and that is that he's incurebly frugal. i remember having lunch with him in his office and he knew the cost of a tuna fish sandwich from the concession cart to the penny and reimbursed me to the penny and he complained and knew the cost of every jersey barrier as he drove around the state and one vivid memory i have in my fi

women governors. [applause] moderated by julia louis-dreyfus! [applause] thank you so much for joining us for some important conversation. i'm the executive director of the dj -- dga. i heard this is the hottest ticket of the week. i heard there were long lines, but i'm not surprised. i'm not surprised because we have a historic class of women governors right now. i started the dga in 2015 when we had more governors named john then we had women. we all in this room know that there are more obstacles for women seeking executive office for their male counterparts. at the dga we saw this gap in leadership at the state executive level and we said, let's do something about it. we started the dga women governors fund, the only entity that exists in the democratic party solely committed to electing women at the governors level. [applause] so, we went from two women governors to eight women governors, we have car drupal debt, and we have spent $80 million electing and protecting this current class of democrat

governor? >> there is so i should be said about mike dukakis legacy is ongoing legacy continues to build and create legacy as we sit here today. for me probably more than anything it is getting people tr motivate towards and aspire to i think mike dukakis has a legacy of bright engaged curious team players who are all about advancing the public good. not ego, it's really about what can we do in this moment? how can we make things better? an end that way with good peoples and good intention you are going to be able to better deliver for the public. and in doingpu so those of us wo serve and to me that's the legacy of mike dukakis and we have to work day in and day out to live up too. [applause]e] >> i would go back to what i said earlier about honesty and integrity which i think is michael's legacy. you almost do not notice it in the state because it is been so long since michael planted that flag that we do not think about that we might be missing that. but look around too other states and at t

what's your thinking about the governors and the democratic governors in particular? well, when you first got elected governor, you were sworn in. you're invited to go to the national governors association meeting. this is a meeting with all the governors across the country, republicans and democrats alike. and the new ones before they're sworn in are they call it the more seasoned governors, call it baby governors school. and so it's when you get to go. and i took that first trip and november of 2018, after i'd gotten elected but not yet sworn in and got to know tim walz from minnesota and tony evers from wisconsin and, j.b. pritzker from illinois, mike dewine from ohio. my colleagues who were all coming in at the same time, and during those meetings, the the most important piece of information, i think that was imparted on all of us was you're going have an emergency while your governor. so as soon as you get home, go to your state emergency operations center. and i thought that was really great advice. so i went to diamond dale turner state emergency operations cen

governor -- (laughter) >> governor deval patrick, come on up. [applause] and governor maura healey.plause] >> so i did not have the privilege of covering governor dukakis' governorship or when he was running for president, his race, but i certainly interviewed him many, many times over the decades and he was always so warm and generous with his time and journalists, i think i can speak for just about all of us, really enjoyed any opportunity to do an interview with governor dukakis. we always came away having learned something, so, thank you for that, governor. i would like to start -- kick this panel off with governor weld. so, let' start with you, since you were the first governor to take the reins after governor dukakis made the lone walk out of the state house and for those of you who assume that was probably the first time that governor wells and governor dukakis sort of passed each other on the state house steps, you'd be wrong. you didn't meet at that swearing in, in fact, you have more-- you had met more than a decade earlier. so, governor, can you talk a little about your f

you either one by governor. governor deval patrick. come on up. and, governor maura healey.t have the privilege of covering governor dukakis caucuses or when he was running for president. his his race. but i certainly interviewed many, many times over the decades and was always so warm and generous with his time and journalists i think i can speak for just about all of us really enjoyed any to do an interview with governor dukakis. we always came away having learned something. so thank you for that, governor. i would like to start kick this panel off with. governor weld, so let's start with you. since you were the first governor to take reins after governor dukakis made the loan walk out of the state house. and for those of you assume that was probably the first time that governor weld and governor dukakis sort of passed each other on the statehouse steps, you'd be wrong. you didn't meet at that swearing in. in fact, you had more had met more than a decade earlier. governor weld, can you talk a little bit about your first encounters with governor dukakis? well, i was still i

the after the governor's my governor's defeat and. he said, jeremy, don't you think you better come back from you leave that good talking head said, quote, in the globe, i'm going to get rid those you know, those guys massport. so anyway that that was an experience and then of course the crowning opportunity that i had is when the governor appointed me secretary of environmental affairs. and i just one story in relation to that and it shows his incredible insight we were launching, you know, midway through my tenure, the massachusetts water resources authority, which was a difficult thing. at the outset. and an 11 member board people tended to think that the governor controlled the board because the secretary was chair. but the didn't control the board. there were three members appointed by the communities surrounding boston, three members appointed by the city of boston and. two other members who are nominated by watershed groups. because we were concerned at the time about the water from being diverted. but anyway, it's quite. so we

, minnesota governor tim walz. we will have to leave it there. minnesota attorney general keith ellison, as always, thank you very much for coming to the saturday show. >>> coming up, if kamala harris and tim walz win in november, they won't be the only ones with a landmark victory, minnesota's lieutenant governor peggy flanagan joins me next to discuss how their win could also put her in the history books. >>> first, some vintage walz wisdom, he may have debuted one of his best campaign lines when he appeared on the sunday show last year, watch. >> it is a very midwestern value, mind your own dang business, the idea of dehumanizing trance children, we welcome children here. >> i think you coined a new state motto for minnesota. mind your own dang business. why do couples choose a sleep number smart bed? i need help with her snoring. sleep number does that. thank you. during our biggest sale of the year, save 50% on the sleep number® limited edition smart bed. shop now at a sleep number store near you. every day, m

one frankly, he on tape praise to the governor for -- governor tim walz in that moment. you know, at the same time and that was all happening, donald trump was calling for the police to shoot at protesters. you couldn't have sort of more of a contrast there, and as far as i know the only person who caused a riot. who's running for the highest or second highest office in the land is donald trump with january 6th. so, i just watched tim walz, and his big heart on full display. and i think that's probably what the rest of the country saw too. >> lieutenant governor flanagan, i just think your insights on governor walz. but, also your words earlier that gave me chills. that made me think of the langston hughes poem. i too am america. i think at this moment when everyone is collectively experiencing is this is a place for them as well. in the election season where it has really been -- it's been a little dark up until this point. so, thank you for bringing some light here this morning. and the joy. and shadow to the midwest. native nebraskan. >> you just feel at home. >> ther

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a governor waltzo. but honestly it could have been grubhub for all we know, delivering french toast. we just don't know at this stage what we do know is cnn chief national correspondent john king is here with us at the magic wall. great to see you this morning look, we're talking about tim walz of minnesota, josh shapiro in pennsylvania both blue states last time, but these states aren't exactly back leah, like they're not exactly alike. cup pennsylvania is bigger, pennsylvania is more complicated minnesota has been one of those states that republicans keeps saying we're going to get minnesota just like democrats say, we're going to get north carolina where george w bush, w bush, who say i'm going to get pennsylvania, but this is what this whole decision is about. if you think about it, this is the 2020 map, right this is biden trump. now of course biden's out of the race and harris is saying, let's not let this happen again. let's not let donald trump win the blue wall. because if donald trump wins the

governor josh shapiro. what are your sources telling you as to why harris went with walls? >> jake, i'm told that the meetings on sunday at the naval observatory, of course, the vice president's residence were remarkably different. >> governor shapiro oh, had a meeting first, he had a one-on-one interview and conversation with vice president harris, and then later in the day on sunday, governor walz had a meeting and i'm told that they they're conversations were different. governor shapiro, i'm told was asking some specifics about what he would like to do as vice president, asking specifically well, you about some rules he would like to play until the governor walz was more not negotiating with the job, but asked him what he could do to help. it was a variety if things though that led to these decisions, as jamie was reporting there, governor walz was not on the list. however, there's a phone call that happened on the afternoon of july 21 of course, that is the day that president biden stepped out of the ra

blagojevich became governor in 2003. -congratulations, governor. -thank you. may god bless you.nd applause] how do you view your-- your time as governor apart from the scandals? how do i say this in a way where i don't sound like a guy without any humility? but i truly believe i was a great governor. i can't think of any governor in my life that did anything for anybody i knew that can walk around and say, "you know what? thank you, governor. my daughter had healthcare through you." free public transportation for seniors and the disabled? i did that 'cause they raised the sales tax, which hurts working people and poor people and seniors. with the legislature raising taxes that hit lower-income illinoisans hardest, and rod striking back with policies to offset that, it's no surprise that his populist agenda made him a lot of enemies amongst the big political families. to the people and the masses, he was on our team, and to the aristocracy and to the political elites, he was this guy that was taking their resources and giving 'em to the peasants, and so he became robin hood. i kn

do you really think that the voters will view governor walz this way, the six-year-old governor from minnesota, that he's going to unleash hell on earth well, i think it's just such an unusual world. we're in right now. >> kaitlan, we're i mean, we were seeing in three weeks ago when president trump was going to win in a landslide and joe biden was never going to step down from running. >> and then here we are. and it's all honeymoon period of about you know, the bio of camila and many people in the country don't know her or her background, much less governor walz, his background. and there's only 90 days to the election. so this is completely unprecedented. were a party has switched horses midstream and they've done it. not out of an advantage. they did it because they just decided, hey, we are throwing in the towel. we can't win his presence trump was strong on the economy, strong on the border. he is strong on inflation and interest rates. all the things that are going to matter to voters when they go and vote this fall and so it's like a complete reset today for the democrats who

[applause] he ran for attorney governor, renewal term as governor. it never changed him and his sense of mission to be honest, just never flagged and when his political career ended it went exactly the same and he put the same effort and same enthusiasm into teaching and correcting p papers, teaming up to help refugees and never tried to make a penny to do this. he could have been a high paid lobbyist. wasn't in his dna. never lost his idealism or commitment to hard work for causes he believed in. second to last word because it would be an incomplete portrait if i p didn't paint the man in full. michael dukakis is anything but quirky but he did have one and maybe just this one and that is that he is incurably frugal. i member having lunch with him in his office and he knew the cost of a tuna fish sandwich from the concession part. and reimbursed me to the penny. he never complained about the cost of every barrier he passed when he drove around the state. and one vivid memory i have in my first year working for him is that he asked me for advice on wh

the state's governor, mark sanford, disappeared for days. >> governor alert the search for mark sanfordjune 2009, south carolina governor mark sanford became a missing person. >> news began to go route in south carolina, getting the papers like no one knows where the governor is, the south carolina governor's missing. >> where is he is he dead somewhere in a ditch with each day that tick by the mystery grew in south carolina, don't know where he is, not even his wires, just so strange this well-known father of four young boys wasn't home for father's day. and more and more people started asking the headline of today is local paper says sanford awol, who's in charge. >> it was going to complete dereliction of duty. imagine if there was a mass shooting hurricane or anything. >> i think all of us are concerned. we're worried about where he might be speculation was rampant. >> some people thought he was dead a fringe view thought he'd been abducted by aliens. it was only after he'd been gone for nearly a week that sanford staff finally offered an explanation of where he was his staff said h

thank you so much for being here, governor. i appreciate it listen, you are governor.critical rather of governor waltzes policy. but the first thing you did in an interview this morning was congratulate him, talk about what an honor an accomplishment must be to be chosen for the ticket. donald trump sent out an email with all caps saying tim walz will unleash hell on earth do think that's the right strategy? >> that's a classic trump a trump state. but i suppose well, governor walz, as you mentioned, i know him, i like and we've done things together. we don't agree politically, but he's a folksy, friendly, engaging person. and so we're going to have this debate about his policies and worldview vice president harris, the same. and i hope we can keep to that and as you know, he is his worldview is one thing, but now he's at the bottom of a ticket where it is kamala harris is worldview that matters and what his job is going to be is to sell that is to sell that policies. >> you say he's folks so you say he's likeable and you personally like him and know him so given all o

what's your thinking about the governors, the democratic governors in particular? >> when you first get elected governor when you are sworn and you're invited to go to the national governors association meeting, a meeting with all the governors across the country, republicans and democrats alike and the newre ones before they are sworn in, they call it baby governors school and so it's when you get to go. i took the first trip in november 2018 after i had gotten elected but not yet sworn in and got to know tony even is from wisconsin, mike to one from ohio. my colleagues who were all coming and at the same time and during those meetings the most important piece of information that was imparted on all of us was you are going to have an emergency while you are governor so as soon as you get home, gogo through your state operations center. that was really great advice. i went to the state operations center, took my oath of office on january 1st, it was 20 degrees downtown lansing, we do it outside, we are michiganders, we can take it. three weeks in, we. through a lot

or democratic governor and the opposite for lieutenant governor.move off of the lieutenant governor for a second because i think what is happening in north carolina is important but i do think it is important, to your concern that you have someone who has said as part of a sunday sermon in a church that some folks need killing, and church, and all these christians, applauding him, right, y'all remember this little thing called the sixth commandment, right, mr. robinson, you know what that is, don't you? so let's understand why the governor has the kind of concern he has here. so setting that aside for a moment, governor, north carolina, i think, is a state that is in play and it's been in play for a while, not just in the 2008 cycle but there's a trend line that starts in virginia and comes down into north carolina and south carolina and now we see it playing out in georgia and elsewhere in the south. the democrats have made important strides with governors and lieutenant governors and state reps like yourself who understand exactly what governing

camila, governor tim walz is a dream for the radical left, and i wonder if his record as governor is going to be this attack line from trump and his allies. how you think he should respond to that well, i don't want to give trump's people any advice, but i would suggest that if they want to do that, they should read some of the polling if governor walz believes, for example that we should cut the price of prescription drugs in this country in half to what they all around the rest of the world over 70% of the american people believe that you want to attack them for being radical. >> i'll help pay for the ad wolves believes we should cut prescription drugs that have vote for trump. i don't think so. the american people overwhelmingly believe as the governor, does, that we should raise the minimum wage to a living wage if the republicans want to attack walls and kamala harris for wanting to raise the minimum wage. i'll help contribute to those advertisements. >> how can i think this whole narrative that if you stand up for working class families, it's somehow a negative is totally absur

is that fair to governor shapiro? i would argue not the policies have all these governors or even senator kelly policies have all the finalists on this. we're pretty similar that we think they think netanyahu has crossed some lines. they also think you don't, don't ever forget that hamas is a terrorist organization that started that started all this back on october 7. she going to have to answer these questions when she does interviews, she will have to answer these questions and how she answers it. we'll show you how she's now the ceo of the democratic party. she wants to be ceo of the united states of america. so you get asked tough questions comes with the territory. >> i do have to say, i don't know if it was performative or not. but one did get the sense from republicans the last week that shapiro may have been the candidate that they feared the more is that fair do you think that republicans see more of an opening now with waltz? >> i think republicans understand the importance of pennsylvania. and if you could

becomes governor when the governor leaves the state. we don't believe that that is true now. it hasn't been litigated in our courts. litigation in other states has found that with modern technology that shouldn't have to be the case. he has done in the past is that he would call a big press conference, claim he's acting governor, try to do something. we don't know what the legal ramifications of that would be at the end of the day, but he likes attention. and if i had been on a national ticket, we could see him calling a press conference every week when i'm out on the campaign trail attracting attention to himself. it being a distraction to the presidential campaign. and that was certainly part of my analysis to tell them early on that i did not want to go through the vetting process. the other thing is that she has a wealth of talent from which to choose. i know all of the governors personally that are involved in this and each one of them would be a tremendous vice presidential nominee. i don't know senator kelly personally, but it's

don't want to get within 50 miles of governor walz. i can tell you to act, and so we got lots of football left to play here. and i'm excited i've taught a bank my helmet against a locker and let's go out and play some ball. we were ready with jake. we're really aren't layer of philadelphia. i don't know her. >> she's full he's on fire yes, it was fine. she was found james carville. thank you so much let's bring back the panel and they are rallying here in philly so we do here in philadelphia abby, the philadelphia mayor, cherelle parker, told me she fully backs the wall stick up, but she was in her in her language unapologetically pro shapiro wanted to appear on the ticket, but obviously with the problem program now. >> yeah. i mean, as she's going to be i mean, this is her home. say this is shapiro's home. sat and we talked about earlier, he is so popular. there not a whole lot of parallels to the level of popularity that he has which actually honestly might be the reason that he's not on the ticket. i mean, at the presidential level

governor. i appreciate it listen, you are governor. you're critical rather of governor waltzes policy but the first thing you did in an interview this morning was congratulate him, talk about what an honor and accomplishment it must be to be chosen for the ticket. donald trump sent out an email with all caps saying tim walz will unleash hell on earth do think that's the right strategy that's a classic trump, a trump state. >> but i suppose, well, governor walz, as you mentioned, i know him, i like and we've done things together. we don't agree politically, but he's a folksy, friendly, engaging person. and so we're going to have this debate about his policies and worldview and vice president harris, the same. and i hope we can keep to that and as you know, he is his worldview is one thing. >> but now he's at the bottom of a ticket where it is kamala harris is worldview that matters and what his job is going to be to sell that is to sell that policies, you say he's folksy, you say he's likeable and you personally like him and know him so

what do people need to know about the governor?e is approachable, a listener, he listens to what constituents need and then he formulates a strategy to deliver it. in the united states and in the state of minnesota, school lunch and breakfast was means tested and it only went to kids who could afford it. that meant a lot of families who were struggling had large debts to the school were were denied access or given not much of a meal. tim walz was a teacher for years and he knows how hard it is to learn on an empty stomach. he worked with the legislature and they passed a universal breakfast and lunch program for the kids in the system. this will help kids learn better, it will bring up nutrition and improve school attendance. some people might label that left or right, i don't know about the ideology behind that, it just seems pragmatic and common sense to me. anchor: he's been described as minnesota nice. what does that mean? mr. ellison: it depends on who you ask but i will tell you it means we believe in civility. we believe a l

i am bias for my own governor but inarguably, one of the greatest governors in the country who a friend of mine actually refers to because of his fight with disney as the rat slayer. he has been incredible. i hate to use the word holistically, it is one of those buzzy words, but i mean, balancing his state which has a massive environmental concerned everybody cares about, from the everglades to the freshwater springs, to bringing in massive amounts of business. handling just this massive influx of people from all of these states that are fleeing. and also having to deal with hurricane debby, then the inevitable florida man. and he balances it all with grace and humor, and is just such a great governor. it is my pleasure to introduce you to governor ron desantis. [applause] thank you so much. gov. desantis: it is great to be back in georgia and of all the accolades in florida i am proud of, but i grew up in florida, born and raised. and we worked for -- and we were for a long number of years the college football center of the universe. that is not true anymore. i am now standing in the c

governor ventura, you need to be in my office monday at 11:00.gn into law ending the prohibition of marijuana in minnesota. it was your idea, you're still alive, you should be there to take -- to take credit for this, because you're the one that done it. that's the kind of person tim walz is. >> wow. well, formerer president trump's vice presidential pick jd vance, who is a former marine, has led the republican charge attacking governor walz over his 24 years of military service. vance has accused walz of stolen valor for leaving the national guard in 2005 to run for congress. just a few months before his unit was deployed to iraq. as someone who understands how military service works, you definitely do, what's your response to this? >> my response is this. first and foremost, any point after 20 years you can retire when you want to. second, vance is missing the point. what he ought to be asking is this -- why is the national guard being shipped out and fighting in foreign wars in other lands? that isn't their role. their role is to be here in ou

governor, look at that. i'm going to have to talk to governor walz about that sue. suit. you wear the same suits, baseball caps, camouflaged, do you coordinate? >> it's as if we called each other in the night before. i wonder if that will start happening with the vice president and the governor, but he loves buffalo plaid. that was like one of our signatures, and he had this beautiful jacket and was like you need one, too. so he bought me a buffalo plaid pendleton, and we rock those all over the state of minnesota. >> yethat buffalo plaid suit he's wearing, that's tailored. i'm really going to have to eut peggy flanagan, of white earth band of ojibwe, thank you . the late great former senator paul wellstone, who was my professor at carleton when i was there, thank you very much, lieutenant governor. >>> up next, as donald trump doubles down on his racist and misogynistic rhetoric against vice president harris new polls indicate his strategy, or lack thereof, isn't working well. i harris campaign and harass herself are getting under trump's skin. what about last nigh