does anybody ever tell you that you remind them of charles grodin?" i said no.ohn lithgow. she said "i don't know who that is." >> stephen: do lord farquaad. >> john: she reached in and got her cell phone and brought up photographs of charles grodin. and angrily pushed into my face. see? i'm not crazy. i was so confused. >> stephen: there are worse people to be confused with. >> john: great admirer of the late charles grodin. but me? >> stephen: i had someone in a grocery store line say to me, "anybody ever tell you look like stephen colbert?" and i said yep, it it happens fairly frequently. another woman standing in front of her turns around and looks to me and goes "no, i've met him. that's not him." [laughter] >> john: that's a good one. >> stephen: i said oh, really? i said, i don't look anything like him? a little bit. but he's a lot taller than you are. [laughter] arts education is greatly undervalued in the united states. there are pockets where it's really valued. but where it's undervalued. where you think that value is for people whether or not they go