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habba, you may colburn except witness. miss habba, thank you, your honor. the defense calls president donald trump. deputy clerk, can you please state your name for the record. but witness, donald john trump. that judge, you might proceed, ms. habba. thank you your honor. question, mister president. you viewed your deposition which was played by plaintiffs counsel at length during the trial. didn't? you answer, yes i did. question, do you stand by your testimony at that position? answer, 100%. yes. question, do you deny the allegation because ms. carroll made an exhibition? answer, that's exactly right. she said something, i consider it a false accusation. no difference. roberta kaplan, e. jean carroll's attorney. objection, your honor. everything after yes, i did, is strike. and the jury will disregard. go ahead. question, did you ever instruct anyone to hurt carroll and your statements. no, i just want to defend myself, my family, and frankly the presidency. ms. caplan, objection, your honor. the judge, objection is sustained. everything asked to know is
habba, you may colburn except witness. miss habba, thank you, your honor. the defense calls president donald trump. deputy clerk, can you please state your name for the record. but witness, donald john trump. that judge, you might proceed, ms. habba. thank you your honor. question, mister president. you viewed your deposition which was played by plaintiffs counsel at length during the trial. didn't? you answer, yes i did. question, do you stand by your testimony at that position? answer, 100%....
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alina habba says she wants to ask trump these three questions. of all, she will ask him to, quote, confirm that he stands by all the testimony of his deposition and that he made the statements in response to e. jean carroll's accusations. now, those are, of course, her accusations that she was in a department store by former president trump in the 90s. now, a jury consider those allegations and found him liable for sexual abuse of e. jean carroll, defamation, and ordered her $5 million in damages. here, they're only talking about this, jury is only considering damages related to a statement that trump made in 2019. now, he says she will also ask trump if he ever, that he never instructed to hurt miss carroll in his statement. apparently, he will say that he did not intend to hurt her. now, the judge and habba, they've had a lot of tense interactions during the course of this trial and that is playing out here. we are getting these live updates, they're jumping a little bit. but the, so, trump actually interrupted his own lawyer, alina habba. this
alina habba says she wants to ask trump these three questions. of all, she will ask him to, quote, confirm that he stands by all the testimony of his deposition and that he made the statements in response to e. jean carroll's accusations. now, those are, of course, her accusations that she was in a department store by former president trump in the 90s. now, a jury consider those allegations and found him liable for sexual abuse of e. jean carroll, defamation, and ordered her $5 million in...
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habba, alina habba, he asked her whether or not she had any other witnesses and she said simply, yes, mr. trump, to which the judge says before he takes the stand, i have a few things to say. msnbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse in new york. also with me, former prosecutor, kristy greenberg, and msnbc legal analyst, paul butler. so the judge had a few things to say, what were they? >> reporter: he did. and again, chris, excuse me for doing this, as you're looking down at my phone, so am i because we're getting this straight from adam reese inside the courtroom. i want to read kind of what we're hearing from the judge to make sure we're getting this thing right. and this is exactly, by the way, before i get into it, this is exactly what we expected to happen before the former president was allowed to testify, whether or not he would be allowed to testify is kind of laying the ground rules, and the judge has said this repeatedly, over and over, that this was already litigated. the former president sexually assaulted e. jean carroll. this cannot be relitigated. let me rea
habba, alina habba, he asked her whether or not she had any other witnesses and she said simply, yes, mr. trump, to which the judge says before he takes the stand, i have a few things to say. msnbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse in new york. also with me, former prosecutor, kristy greenberg, and msnbc legal analyst, paul butler. so the judge had a few things to say, what were they? >> reporter: he did. and again, chris, excuse me for doing this, as you're looking down at...
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habba said, that's me on a good day and president trump. that earned her an immediate rebuke from the judge. they had the last word. shawn crowley taking a shot at team trump saying i will follow the rules of this courtroom which mr. trump and his lawyer don't seem to know how to do. from cnn, ms. carroll did not ask to be called a liar. she did not ask to be called ugly or death threats or to be accused of lying. crowley said carroll came forward because she thought it was finally time to speak publicly when what he, extending her arm pointing to trump, did to her. the law protects her from being
habba said, that's me on a good day and president trump. that earned her an immediate rebuke from the judge. they had the last word. shawn crowley taking a shot at team trump saying i will follow the rules of this courtroom which mr. trump and his lawyer don't seem to know how to do. from cnn, ms. carroll did not ask to be called a liar. she did not ask to be called ugly or death threats or to be accused of lying. crowley said carroll came forward because she thought it was finally time to...
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habba? ms. habba -- "i'm trying to get it in, your honor. i have to ask about it." -- "guess what you may not read from a document that's not in evidence." ms. habba -- "sure, let me get it in. the judge -- "no we're going to take a break now, during which you should refresh your memory about how it is you get a document into evidence." >> seth: oh, you want her to refresh her memory on how to introduce evidence well, joke's on you, judge she never knew how to introduce evidence [ laughter ] at one point he got even more fed up with habba when she made a ridiculous motion for a mistrial during her cross examination, habba asked carroll, "are you aware it is illegal to delete evidence?" carroll's lawyer -- "objection." habba -- "i move for a mistrial. evidence has been deleted. judge -- "denied and the jury will disregard everything ms. habba just said. [ laughter ] man, that is brutal. she's so bad at this the judge is basically telling the jury, "just pretend she's not here." [ laughter ] the judge is talking about her the way you talk to your kids about the weird
habba? ms. habba -- "i'm trying to get it in, your honor. i have to ask about it." -- "guess what you may not read from a document that's not in evidence." ms. habba -- "sure, let me get it in. the judge -- "no we're going to take a break now, during which you should refresh your memory about how it is you get a document into evidence." >> seth: oh, you want her to refresh her memory on how to introduce evidence well, joke's on you, judge she never knew...
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now you hear alina habba going out there.t is hard to be a lawyer for donald trump, i would imagine. i'm not one, not a lawyer, but you also have to put out the argument he's making privately to show him that you believe the same thing and that you are fighting for the things that he believes in even if you are not supposed to be doing that. >> yeah, look, this very idea of this question of whether it is a good legal argument or not a good legal argument, that assumes that you believe in the fundamental legitimacy of the citizen which i think as sitting around the table we all do. when you go to court it is your duty to defend yourself and adhere to the law. if you are a candidate for office and thumbing his nose and whipping up a major portion of the people about the legitimacy of it, it is a wonderfully sound legitimate strategy to go after the judge and the whole court to undermine the system. >> carrie, i want to ask you about a situation we are looking at in washington in the federal courts. it is an issue that kristen h
now you hear alina habba going out there.t is hard to be a lawyer for donald trump, i would imagine. i'm not one, not a lawyer, but you also have to put out the argument he's making privately to show him that you believe the same thing and that you are fighting for the things that he believes in even if you are not supposed to be doing that. >> yeah, look, this very idea of this question of whether it is a good legal argument or not a good legal argument, that assumes that you believe in...
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habba, objection. the court, sustained. ms. habba, thank you. ms. kaplan, question, something here today, mr. trump, are you aware that there was another trial between you and ms. carroll? and, yes. ms. habba, objection. the judge, sustained. question, mr. trump, is this the first trial between you and ms. carroll that you have attended? ms. habba, objection. the judge, i will allow. that answer, yes. miss kaplan, no further questions, your honor. the judge, any redirect? redirect examination by ms. habba. question, mister president, did you have counsel at that last trial? and, sir i had counsel. question, did you listen to the advice of counsel at the last trial? ms. kaplan, objection, your honor. the judge, sustained. ms. habba, no further questions. the court, thank, you mr. trump, you are excused. and that was it. three minutes. the first time a former president of the united states testified under oath in a trial as a defendant in that trial. leading off our discussion tonight is andrew weissmann, former fbi she enrolled counsel and former chi
habba, objection. the court, sustained. ms. habba, thank you. ms. kaplan, question, something here today, mr. trump, are you aware that there was another trial between you and ms. carroll? and, yes. ms. habba, objection. the judge, sustained. question, mr. trump, is this the first trial between you and ms. carroll that you have attended? ms. habba, objection. the judge, i will allow. that answer, yes. miss kaplan, no further questions, your honor. the judge, any redirect? redirect examination...
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also exposed to alina habba's parents, who tested positive. they're all maskless. it is a very high covid time to say the least. i think the former president will likely be monitoring his own symptoms as well in the coming weeks inside this very hectic primary calendar. >> if trump were to testify, i guess the question becomes, katherine, is it a good idea? would his testimony help his defense, is the bottom line. how necessary is it to hear from trump? >> no way. he can't control himself. there's nothing he can say to be relevant. he can't say i didn't rape her, i didn't defame her. you'll have ms. carroll's attorneys jumping up saying objection. you'll have the judge stopping him and maybe even saying you're done, get off the stand. that will not be helpful to him. >> yet he continues to defame her, according to e jean carroll's attorney, who indicated over the weekend to say she's ready to submit more evidence to the case, continuing to bash carroll, saying outside the court that this trial was rigged, i frankly am the one who suffered dama
also exposed to alina habba's parents, who tested positive. they're all maskless. it is a very high covid time to say the least. i think the former president will likely be monitoring his own symptoms as well in the coming weeks inside this very hectic primary calendar. >> if trump were to testify, i guess the question becomes, katherine, is it a good idea? would his testimony help his defense, is the bottom line. how necessary is it to hear from trump? >> no way. he can't control...
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alina habba was as good today as i have ever seen her. her job was to poke holes in e. jean carroll's case, to the extent that she's claiming damages, she hasn't proven those were my client's fault. there was a five-hour window between when the article in which she first alleged that donald trump assaulted her came out and when donald trump himself first made a statement, and during that five-hour window, she showed the jury a series of tweets in which people said a number of really nasty things to e. jean carroll, which e. jean carroll acknowledged they were standing by the guy they always supported. she was able to use the five-hour period of time and the tweets during it to really draw some doubt in the jurors' minds has e. jean carroll sufficiently proven that the death threats and rape threats and jail threats that she has received over time were solely attributable to donald trump's having spoken out against her. and unfortunately, e. jean carroll's lawyers didn't do the job they could have done in showing that in fact there was cau
alina habba was as good today as i have ever seen her. her job was to poke holes in e. jean carroll's case, to the extent that she's claiming damages, she hasn't proven those were my client's fault. there was a five-hour window between when the article in which she first alleged that donald trump assaulted her came out and when donald trump himself first made a statement, and during that five-hour window, she showed the jury a series of tweets in which people said a number of really nasty...
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habba, who was herself reprimanded by the judge multiple times. when she played a video of trump responding to the prior jury verdict, finding him liable of sexual abuse and defamation... >> the verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. >> reporter: the judge told the jury to disregard it since he had repeatedly warned of the defense team to not retry that case. when she protested not being allowed to discuss tweets not in evidence, judge kaplan said, "you are on the verge of spending some time in the lock up. now sit down." now, underscoring the unusual nature of this trial, judge kaplan ordered the jurors to remain anonymous, even amongst each other, telling them to use aliases instead. nancy, that instruction is typically reserved for federal cases against drug cartels. >> nancy: big concern that these jurors could now face threats themselves. errol barnett in new york city, thanks so much.
habba, who was herself reprimanded by the judge multiple times. when she played a video of trump responding to the prior jury verdict, finding him liable of sexual abuse and defamation... >> the verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time. >> reporter: the judge told the jury to disregard it since he had repeatedly warned of the defense team to not retry that case. when she protested not being allowed to discuss tweets not in evidence, judge kaplan...
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habba, when you're right, you're right.ut you are also correct to say that the brunt of the judge's frustration has fallen on alina habba and with good reason. alina habba has a lot of trouble asking questions according to the rules of evidence and civil procedure in federal courts. she wanted to know when e. jean carroll had an agent, and she said i hired my agent in 1982 or '3, and e. jean carroll had already testified she no longer has an agent. habba's next question was when did you fire your agent, and of course that assumes something not in evidence. e. jean carroll never said she fired an agent. she simply said she no longer has an agent. those are rookie mistakes for someone in federal litigation practice. and you would expect the former president of the united states would have someone with greater facility and fluency in trial practice than alina habba has shown herself to say. those are the kind of mistakes that have caused judge kaplan to say oh, come on, this is evidence 101. >> lisa rubin, kristen gibbons fede
habba, when you're right, you're right.ut you are also correct to say that the brunt of the judge's frustration has fallen on alina habba and with good reason. alina habba has a lot of trouble asking questions according to the rules of evidence and civil procedure in federal courts. she wanted to know when e. jean carroll had an agent, and she said i hired my agent in 1982 or '3, and e. jean carroll had already testified she no longer has an agent. habba's next question was when did you fire...
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habba said, that's me on a good day and president trump. that earned her an immediate rebuke from the judge. they had the last word. shawn crowley taking a shot at team trump saying i will follow the rules of this courtroom which mr. trump and his lawyer don't seem to know how to do. from cnn, ms. carroll did not ask to be called a liar. she did not ask to be called ugly or death threats or to be accused of lying. crowley said carroll came forward because she thought it was finally time to speak publicly when what he, extending her arm pointing to trump, did to her. the law protects her from being defamed for telling the truth. he's still breaking the law literal to this day. that's where we start with legal analyst lisa ruben inside the courtroom. top prosecutor at the justice department and one of my favorites, prosecuting donald trump, andrew weissmann and legal analyst katie phang is back. lisa, an incredibly dramatic day in the courtroom. talk to us about what it is that happened. >> you know, alisha, in addition to the presentations a
habba said, that's me on a good day and president trump. that earned her an immediate rebuke from the judge. they had the last word. shawn crowley taking a shot at team trump saying i will follow the rules of this courtroom which mr. trump and his lawyer don't seem to know how to do. from cnn, ms. carroll did not ask to be called a liar. she did not ask to be called ugly or death threats or to be accused of lying. crowley said carroll came forward because she thought it was finally time to...
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attorney habba insisted that e. jean carroll was not suffering because of donald trump's attacks on her and that in fact she enjoys the attention. question, at some level you enjoy this attention? answer, no. e. jean carroll's attorney objects to that question, and then the judge overruled the objection, and then e. jean carroll says this is not the kind of attention that i enjoy. question, then why ms. carroll, were you publicizing the lawsuits yourself? answer, because once i spoke up -- e. jean carroll continue speaking over her own attorneys objection, i want people to know that a woman can speak up and win a trial. i wanted people to know. it was a major victory, and i wanted people to know. i don't want to be quiet now. i'm 80. it's not right to try to make women be quiet. it's been going on for too long. e. jean carroll told the jury that she now lives, quote, in the mountains, in the woods, and the small cabin. she described what donald trump has done to her life and the security precautions she has had to t
attorney habba insisted that e. jean carroll was not suffering because of donald trump's attacks on her and that in fact she enjoys the attention. question, at some level you enjoy this attention? answer, no. e. jean carroll's attorney objects to that question, and then the judge overruled the objection, and then e. jean carroll says this is not the kind of attention that i enjoy. question, then why ms. carroll, were you publicizing the lawsuits yourself? answer, because once i spoke up -- e....
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jean carroll, alina habba said that e.ng for you to give her a windfall because some people on social media said mean things about her. the judge had to stop attorney habba when she misstated the law and made other mistakes in her blatantly incompetent opening statement and her last words to the jury attorney habba said that the death threats don trump's followers had issued to e. jean carroll are a normal thing. that was her phrase. attorney habba told the jury, the negative backlash that she purportedly suffered is simply a broad product of a digital age and social media. when you put a story out, you will receive backlash. it's a normal thing that happens. she wants you to pay, it is claiming that it's all because of his two statements. joining us now, faith gay, former prosecutor for the eastern district of new york. thank you very much for joining us tonight. this is such a peculiar piece of litigation for us to watch at this point, since the real facts of it have been decided. this comes down to what we will see, wha
jean carroll, alina habba said that e.ng for you to give her a windfall because some people on social media said mean things about her. the judge had to stop attorney habba when she misstated the law and made other mistakes in her blatantly incompetent opening statement and her last words to the jury attorney habba said that the death threats don trump's followers had issued to e. jean carroll are a normal thing. that was her phrase. attorney habba told the jury, the negative backlash that she...
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habba, habba limited herself to a series of yes or no questions, which trump failed to answer with justs" or "no". instead he did this. "habba: did you instruct anyone to hurt ms. carroll? trump: no, i just wanted to defend myself, my family, and frankly, the presidency." judge kaplan broke in and instructed the jury to disregard everything after "no." which is fitting, because the whole trial is the result of trump disregarding everything after "no." now, trump was supposed to testify on monday, but the trial was delayed after a juror got sick and alina habba also said she was feeling ill and had a fever after being exposed to covid-19. of course, her client could've cured her instantly with a little horse paste and a shot of bleach. but it turns out she did recover kind of quickly, because the very next day, habba was photographed in new hampshire at a trump victory party. busted! [booing] reminds me of when i said my appendix burst, then someone snapped a pic of me front row at guns n' roses! [cheering] some axl rose fans here. the damning photo of habba was posted by a die-hard trum
habba, habba limited herself to a series of yes or no questions, which trump failed to answer with justs" or "no". instead he did this. "habba: did you instruct anyone to hurt ms. carroll? trump: no, i just wanted to defend myself, my family, and frankly, the presidency." judge kaplan broke in and instructed the jury to disregard everything after "no." which is fitting, because the whole trial is the result of trump disregarding everything after...
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habba, did you ever instruct anyone to hurt ms. carroll. trump, i just wanted to defend myself, my family, and frankly, the presidency. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst, she was inside that courtroom, lisa rubin. nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, and criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. that was the defense asking donald trump all of three questions, one of which was stricken. it then went to the prosecution. tell me what happened then. >> reporter: katy, first of all, those three questions, two of the answers were partially stricken. i heard yeses and noes to those questions before donald trump attempted to give a narrative. as you noted, judge kaplan cut him off, instructed jury to get the answers out of his mind and struck them from the record. robbie kaplan cross examined donald trump, and she really only got in one question that was permitted and the question she asked him was is this the first trial you have attended involving you and e. jean carroll, the answer was yes. but what she wanted to ex
habba, did you ever instruct anyone to hurt ms. carroll. trump, i just wanted to defend myself, my family, and frankly, the presidency. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst, she was inside that courtroom, lisa rubin. nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard, and criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. that was the defense asking donald trump all of three questions, one of which was stricken. it then went to the prosecution. tell me what happened then. >> reporter:...
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habba. hours later, habba responded the point of the letter was to, quote, verify whether the information contained in the new york post article is accurate. and she says she now considers a matter of. here's a talk about this -- type of johnson, investigative reporter and author of -- also former federal prosecutor jessica roth -- david, your reaction from what we heard from shane goldmacher about the former presidents approximately $50 million for a legal phase. would he be able to afford those bills weren't it for his pack? if he was an running for president? >> anderson, you've hit that nail right on the head. there remember, donald used to tell us he was worth ten billion dollars. pay should be rolling in money affects the case. evidently, he has to depend on begging for money from people. he just announced a little bit ago, by reuters, they have -- a man named bigelow who owns a bunch of hotels and aerospace companies given donald trump 1 million dollars to help with his legal bills. i
habba. hours later, habba responded the point of the letter was to, quote, verify whether the information contained in the new york post article is accurate. and she says she now considers a matter of. here's a talk about this -- type of johnson, investigative reporter and author of -- also former federal prosecutor jessica roth -- david, your reaction from what we heard from shane goldmacher about the former presidents approximately $50 million for a legal phase. would he be able to afford...
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habba's decorum in the courtroom has antagonized the judge a little bit. she's trying to relitigate issues which does an tag nate the judge. i've interviewed alina. she can be pretty aggressive. let's see how she handles this task. this is not easy, and again, there is the jury, but there's also her client. >> we'll come back to that dynamic in one second. before we get to that, i want to ask you, we mentioned before that "access hollywood" tape where donald trump is on video for the world to see talking about grabbing women that is going to be, we understand, you know, submitted into evidence. what role does that play? >> it has a huge role. it basically, as judge kaplan found when he allowed this in in pretrial motions, this is the same kind of situation that happened to e. jean carroll. she's basically describing what he said on that tape. i mean, you can't have better corroboration than him making that statement on that tape. that's extremely powerful. it's in his own words. then on top of it all, he was questioned about it in the deposition, which is
habba's decorum in the courtroom has antagonized the judge a little bit. she's trying to relitigate issues which does an tag nate the judge. i've interviewed alina. she can be pretty aggressive. let's see how she handles this task. this is not easy, and again, there is the jury, but there's also her client. >> we'll come back to that dynamic in one second. before we get to that, i want to ask you, we mentioned before that "access hollywood" tape where donald trump is on video...
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habba seemed to be arguing that ms. carroll was supposed to go hide and not have any presence after being a public figure, someone people relied on for advice and a writer, an important writer for women. so habba was intimating that she should go hideout, she should be very quiet and sit in a dark room and be silenced. and scienciilencing women is tht of misogynists and sexists who don't want women to live in a safe world where we're believed and where assaulters, harassers, and rapists go unpunished. i think it's a really important message. it's also important to see ms. habba attack one of the foundations of our democracy which is the jury system. you know who doesn't have juries? iran and egypt and china. it's in our declaration of independence and our constitution for a reason. and there are 9 million people in new york, 20 million in new york state. they're highly educated. to say that you can't have a fair trial, he's a new yorker. donald trump is a new yorker. there are 600,000 people in wyoming. we're americans
habba seemed to be arguing that ms. carroll was supposed to go hide and not have any presence after being a public figure, someone people relied on for advice and a writer, an important writer for women. so habba was intimating that she should go hideout, she should be very quiet and sit in a dark room and be silenced. and scienciilencing women is tht of misogynists and sexists who don't want women to live in a safe world where we're believed and where assaulters, harassers, and rapists go...
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this is news to us, alina habba is quoted as saying. she repeated this is a motion to the court. her attorney fired back saying, quote, as alina habba will knows, these allegations are baseless and that, quote, needless to say, at no point have we ever had a mentor type of relationship as alleged by alina habba. hours later she responded that the point of the letter was to quote, verify whether the information contained in the new york post article is accurate. and she said she now considers the matter resolved. just to give you a reaction about the former president of proximally $50 million so far in legal fees, would he be able to afford those bills if it weren't for his pac , i mean if he wasn't running for president? >> anderson, you hit the nail on the head there, remember donald used to tell us he was worth $10 billion? he should be rolling in money if that's the case, and evidently, he has to depend on begging for money from people, it was announced a little bit ago by reuters, they have an exclusive that a man named glow who owns budget hotels and an aerospace company is
this is news to us, alina habba is quoted as saying. she repeated this is a motion to the court. her attorney fired back saying, quote, as alina habba will knows, these allegations are baseless and that, quote, needless to say, at no point have we ever had a mentor type of relationship as alleged by alina habba. hours later she responded that the point of the letter was to quote, verify whether the information contained in the new york post article is accurate. and she said she now considers...
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habba asked, do you stand by your testimony if the deposition? trump replied, 100% yes.n she asked, did you deny the allegation because miss carroll made an accusation? trump responded, that's exactly right. yes, i did. she said something that i considered a false accusation, totally false, but the judge kept strictly to the plant, cut trump off saying everything after yes, i did is stricken. it mens the jury cannot consider it. habba's final question was, did you ever instruct anyone to hurt miss carroll in your statement? trump said, no, i just wanted to defend myself, my family and, frankly, the presidency. then carroll's lawyer roberta kaplan was alloweded to cross examine trump. she asked, is this the first trial with carroll that he has attended and trump replied, yes. her question, a reference to the fact that trump never attended the spring 2023 trial where a jury considered carroll's claim that trump raped her in a department store in the 1990s. >> the jury found him liable for sexual abuse. the current trial deals with 2019 statements trump made about carroll a
habba asked, do you stand by your testimony if the deposition? trump replied, 100% yes.n she asked, did you deny the allegation because miss carroll made an accusation? trump responded, that's exactly right. yes, i did. she said something that i considered a false accusation, totally false, but the judge kept strictly to the plant, cut trump off saying everything after yes, i did is stricken. it mens the jury cannot consider it. habba's final question was, did you ever instruct anyone to hurt...
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alina habba, attorney for president trump.h the back story here, steve harrigan reporting live from atlanta with more on this. hi, steve. >> martha, this story is getting bigger by the day and getting more and more personal and ugly. right now it's a string of accusations from a defense lawyer and those accusations all focus on the district attorney, fani willis. she's in charge of prosecuting former president trump and 14 others for election interference here in georgia. she stands accused of hiring her married lover as a prosecutor, paying him more than $650,000 and the two of them misused some of that money to go on vacations together. that prosecutor, nathan wade, is in the middle of a bitter divorce and court records just released appear to indicate that he purchased plane tickets for himself and willis to go to san francisco and miami. we're going to know a lot more about the relationship between these two. we might see it all aired on television february 15. that's when the judge has set the date for a hearing to see if
alina habba, attorney for president trump.h the back story here, steve harrigan reporting live from atlanta with more on this. hi, steve. >> martha, this story is getting bigger by the day and getting more and more personal and ugly. right now it's a string of accusations from a defense lawyer and those accusations all focus on the district attorney, fani willis. she's in charge of prosecuting former president trump and 14 others for election interference here in georgia. she stands...
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jean carroll testified where there was a very tense exchange between alina habba and judge kaplan. here's how it's described by cnn. your honor, clearly we're not going to finish this trial tomorrow. this trial will go into next week and i'm asking for the ki that he has the right to not miss the trial. trump has the right to be present either in person or by counsel and nobody is stopping him from doing either. the application is denied. i will hear no further argument.
jean carroll testified where there was a very tense exchange between alina habba and judge kaplan. here's how it's described by cnn. your honor, clearly we're not going to finish this trial tomorrow. this trial will go into next week and i'm asking for the ki that he has the right to not miss the trial. trump has the right to be present either in person or by counsel and nobody is stopping him from doing either. the application is denied. i will hear no further argument.
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we got a preview from alina habba of what the defense is going to be.i can summarize it, it's basically that, oh, come on, e. jean carroll has actually benefitted from these attacks. she's gotten rich and famous in a way she never thought she would. she doesn't want to fix her reputation. she likes her new brand, and she has been monetizing it for years. that's a quote from alina habba. >> it's a risk, you can either minimize the damages and essentially cross examine the plaintiff with the attitude of this wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be, or you can take the option that alina habba appears to be planning to take, which is no, no, no, this whole ordeal helped you. it improved your brand, it made you a household name. you have not been damaged, you have been benefitted. it's a risky tack because jurors may reject that out of hand and say this does not sound like somebody who has benefitted from the last few years of having donald trump on their bad side. and part of the issue here that comes in is the reach of a donald trump. you know, in defa
we got a preview from alina habba of what the defense is going to be.i can summarize it, it's basically that, oh, come on, e. jean carroll has actually benefitted from these attacks. she's gotten rich and famous in a way she never thought she would. she doesn't want to fix her reputation. she likes her new brand, and she has been monetizing it for years. that's a quote from alina habba. >> it's a risk, you can either minimize the damages and essentially cross examine the plaintiff with...
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it was three straight questions from his attorney, alina habba. earlier in the day, there are video clips of clump trump's deposition where he mistakes carroll for marla may present a photograph on repeat some of his statement he doesn't know her calls her mentally ill. harbaugh asked trump, do you still bear testimony in the deposition? trump says 100 and yes. she then asked, him did you deny the allegation because miss carroll made an accusation? trump said that's exactly right. yes i did. she said something that i considered a false accusation, totally false, the judge cut him off and said everything after yes is restricted for the record. that's really time we saw trump vera way from what was strictly adhered to. the last question habba asked was did you ever instruct anyone to hurt miss carroll in your statements? trump said no, i just wanted to defend myself, my family, and frankly, the presidency. the judge also told the jury disregard everything after no. it was such a contrast in the civil fraud trial when he's that is a platform to make
it was three straight questions from his attorney, alina habba. earlier in the day, there are video clips of clump trump's deposition where he mistakes carroll for marla may present a photograph on repeat some of his statement he doesn't know her calls her mentally ill. harbaugh asked trump, do you still bear testimony in the deposition? trump says 100 and yes. she then asked, him did you deny the allegation because miss carroll made an accusation? trump said that's exactly right. yes i did....
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ryan, when you look at this donald trump and his attorney, we heard from her, alina habba outside court has vowed to appeal. what do you think are the potential grounds for appeal? >> so if i were them i'd scrutinize especially the judge's rules what the judge said donald trump could or could not testify about. i don't think they have ground at all on the idea he could not testify about the truth of the sexual assault because that had been settled by another jury. they found he was lying. >> that's not what this was about. this was about damages. >> that's what happened to giuliani in his case. maybe they could appeal he was able to testify about why he lied and that could go to punitive damages so he has this whopping punitive damage award of $65 million and go i was going to talk about that, what was in my mind because that's about the jury's assessment of my mind-set and maybe there's something there, but it's not much. and i don't think they'll get that. >> the number takes your breath away. when i was sitting in my office and everyone sort of gasp as we all heard this number as we
ryan, when you look at this donald trump and his attorney, we heard from her, alina habba outside court has vowed to appeal. what do you think are the potential grounds for appeal? >> so if i were them i'd scrutinize especially the judge's rules what the judge said donald trump could or could not testify about. i don't think they have ground at all on the idea he could not testify about the truth of the sexual assault because that had been settled by another jury. they found he was lying....
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>> reporter: yeah, so trump's attorney habba has begun her closing arguments. and trump did return to sit to listen to her try to convince the jury that they shouldn't award e. jean carroll damages and trump shouldn't have to pay. she began the closing argument by saying the plaintiff is trying to pin twitter troll comments on a former president of the united states without accepting any responsibility. they are trying to distance trump from the onslaught of negative e-mails, tweets, harassing messages that e. jean carroll received after donald trump called her a liar when she accused him of raping her in the mid 1990s. her opening statement has already drawn one rebuke from the judge. she was raising questions about who was paying the fees of the witness that she called in this case, carol martin, a long time friend of e. jean carroll. she asked martin about that when receives on the stand and martin said she doesn't know. so habba mentioned it in the closing statement and that got the judge irritated. he told her if you violate my instruction again, you may h
>> reporter: yeah, so trump's attorney habba has begun her closing arguments. and trump did return to sit to listen to her try to convince the jury that they shouldn't award e. jean carroll damages and trump shouldn't have to pay. she began the closing argument by saying the plaintiff is trying to pin twitter troll comments on a former president of the united states without accepting any responsibility. they are trying to distance trump from the onslaught of negative e-mails, tweets,...
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habba, alina habba, he asked her whether or not she had any other witnesses and she said simply, yes, judge says before he takes the stand, i have a few things to say. msnbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse in new york. also with me, former prosecutor, kristy greenberg, and msnbc legal analyst, paul butler. so the judge had a few things to say, what were they? >> reporter: he did. and again, chris, excuse me for doing this, as you're looking down at my phone, so am i because we're getting this straight from adam reese inside the courtroom. i want to read kind of what we're hearing from the judge to make sure we're getting this thing right. and this is
habba, alina habba, he asked her whether or not she had any other witnesses and she said simply, yes, judge says before he takes the stand, i have a few things to say. msnbc's yasmin vossoughian is outside the courthouse in new york. also with me, former prosecutor, kristy greenberg, and msnbc legal analyst, paul butler. so the judge had a few things to say, what were they? >> reporter: he did. and again, chris, excuse me for doing this, as you're looking down at my phone, so am i because...
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alina habba made some motions. she wanted to delay the trial. wanted to put off thursday's testimony because he has to go to his mother-in-law's funeral. judge kaplan is not having any of it. we got right down to jury selection. the pool was asked their age, occupation, what does their spouse do, where do they get their news from. that was very interesting. >> for jury selection. >> and has mr. trump been treated unfairly, was the 2020 election stolen. to those questions a couple people said yes. of course they weren't put on the jury. a nine-person jury is seated. mr. trump leaves to go to lunch. then we had opening statements. e. jean carroll's attorney said the sexual assault and defamation has been settled. he's been found guilty, $5 million. we are here for damages. she has been damaged. her life has been turned upside down. she gets death threats. trump supporters have ambushed her and her life is not the same. alina habba said this is exactly what she wanted. she's famous again. she's getting all the fame and notoriety. she's writing colu
alina habba made some motions. she wanted to delay the trial. wanted to put off thursday's testimony because he has to go to his mother-in-law's funeral. judge kaplan is not having any of it. we got right down to jury selection. the pool was asked their age, occupation, what does their spouse do, where do they get their news from. that was very interesting. >> for jury selection. >> and has mr. trump been treated unfairly, was the 2020 election stolen. to those questions a couple...
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we have a big clue from what his attorney alina habba said. you had asked the judge for some background to block the court or trump's team from being able to present legal arguments about the jury's rejection of the rape claim. they found him liable for sexual abuse and defamation. alina habba thinks there's a big chance for them on appeal because of what the judge ordered here. let's listen to her and give you a chance to respond. here she was. >> before i walked into court, that judge decided that every single defense president trump had, we were not allowed to raise in front of the jury. it is in writing and i encourage the journalists, the real journalists to take a minute to look at his orders. there was no proof. and i couldn't prove that she didn't bring in the dress. there was no dna, there was no expert. my experts were denied. two of them. two of them were denied to come in. >> your response, robbie, and then you, e. jean. maybe you go first because you urant next to her. you couldn't respond in that moment. would you like to respond
we have a big clue from what his attorney alina habba said. you had asked the judge for some background to block the court or trump's team from being able to present legal arguments about the jury's rejection of the rape claim. they found him liable for sexual abuse and defamation. alina habba thinks there's a big chance for them on appeal because of what the judge ordered here. let's listen to her and give you a chance to respond. here she was. >> before i walked into court, that judge...
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i think you see that defiance on alina habba's face, which came out of court they.he thought it was her proudest moment. well as a trial lawyer, i wouldn't be proud to lose, but i also don't mind losing if i can learn a lesson. if you can lose and learn a lesson, it is a valuable moment, right. i don't think she has learned a lesson, and i don't think it's surprising that donald trump has -- 's i think strategically, having a female lawyer when you are going after a female victim or a female plaintiff, makes sense. but i think in this instance, when alina habba gets up, in the theme of donald trump is to blame everyone but himself. he blamed e. jean carroll, and then alina habba got up during closings, airy, and she blamed quote, chose in there -- for the people who were sending the threats, and that donald trump shouldn't have any type of imputed liability for what they've done. putting aside whether or not she misconstrue the law, it is that type of defiant, it's never going to be my problem attitude that never works with jurors, and it certainly hasn't worked wit
i think you see that defiance on alina habba's face, which came out of court they.he thought it was her proudest moment. well as a trial lawyer, i wouldn't be proud to lose, but i also don't mind losing if i can learn a lesson. if you can lose and learn a lesson, it is a valuable moment, right. i don't think she has learned a lesson, and i don't think it's surprising that donald trump has -- 's i think strategically, having a female lawyer when you are going after a female victim or a female...
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jean carroll lawyers, then trumps lawyers, and trump's attorney alina habba hugged one of the e. jean carroll attorneys and then the foreperson of the jury hands up to the clerk and the judge then read the verdict from the bench and as you described, a significant amount of money, they were asking for more than $24 million in compensatory damages and a significant amount of punitive damages because they argued the only way to stop donald trump from repeating the defamatory statement was to hit him in the pocketbook and that is what the jury did today, awarding e. jean carroll, $83.3 million. from here the judge will enter a judgment a few days from now, whether he agrees or challenges it in some way, that will come down the road, for now this is the jury speaking, awarding e. jean carroll $83 million, she was surrounded by cameras after leaving, her lawyers leaving with smiles, they did give comments to the media as they were leaving, this was a significant victory for them and last year they awarded her $5 million after claims of success will -- to settle claims of sexual assaul
jean carroll lawyers, then trumps lawyers, and trump's attorney alina habba hugged one of the e. jean carroll attorneys and then the foreperson of the jury hands up to the clerk and the judge then read the verdict from the bench and as you described, a significant amount of money, they were asking for more than $24 million in compensatory damages and a significant amount of punitive damages because they argued the only way to stop donald trump from repeating the defamatory statement was to hit...
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number two, i actually think alina habba, she's not a courtroom technician.ll had all kinds of problems delivering evidence, and got lambasted. but on the economic damage, she did a good job on economic damages. she pointed out that e. jean carroll was all but forgotten and unemployed and she came back into the public scene. it's a coldhearted claim, and it may backfire, but i think she made an effective argument that there is minimal if any economic damages. the third point is just watching judge kaplan control that courtroom. he is one of the tightest, most controlling, really most effective judges, and watching him try to keep a lid on alina habba and on trump, and i think you did a good job on balancing the rights to make the case with keeping order in his courtroom. >> that's interesting on the second point on how maybe that's an effective comment to the jury about how much money e. jean carroll made. the other point that they were trying to make also was how e. jean carroll felt after donald trump talked to her. they brought up this moment from our town
number two, i actually think alina habba, she's not a courtroom technician.ll had all kinds of problems delivering evidence, and got lambasted. but on the economic damage, she did a good job on economic damages. she pointed out that e. jean carroll was all but forgotten and unemployed and she came back into the public scene. it's a coldhearted claim, and it may backfire, but i think she made an effective argument that there is minimal if any economic damages. the third point is just watching...
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did trump's attorney habba, was she there physically today, or was this called in?>> she was and she wasn't only there physically, jose, she was there along with mr. madeo, the other attorney who has potentially had a covid exposure, unmasked and flanking former president trump. in fact, at one point trump looked down to consult with habba whispering right in her face, and she, you know, leaned toward him and whispered right back. this is a group of people that if they are fearful that they have covid, their behavior would not indicate a fear of getting others exposed. but i'll also remind you and our viewers, jose, there are a number of people over 70 years old in the courtroom beyond the former president. judge lou kaplan is approximately 79 years old. e. jean carroll, the plaintiff is 80. there are a number of people who for demographic reasons alone have reasons to fear that exposure. >> lisa rubin in new york city for us, thank you so very much. >>> up next, we'll break down the -- >> thanks jose. >> -- the controversy swirling around d.a. fani willis, and whet
did trump's attorney habba, was she there physically today, or was this called in?>> she was and she wasn't only there physically, jose, she was there along with mr. madeo, the other attorney who has potentially had a covid exposure, unmasked and flanking former president trump. in fact, at one point trump looked down to consult with habba whispering right in her face, and she, you know, leaned toward him and whispered right back. this is a group of people that if they are fearful that...
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habba is, to use a bit of legalese, a bad lawyer. said this in a recent interview. >> somebody said to me, "alina, would you rather be -- would you rather be smart or pretty?" and i said, "oh, easy. pretty." i can fake being smart. >> stephen: counterpoint: no, you can't. 'cause yesterday, she tried to get the trial delayed on the grounds that trump had to go to his mother-in-law's funeral, even though trump is not required to appear at the trial. judge lewis kaplan wasn't buying it, saying "the application is denied. i will hear no further argument on it." and when habba tried to speak, judge kaplan shot back "none. do you understand that word?" your honor,i'm not sure she does. let me help you out there, alina. "none." need a bigger mark to open a book this big. "none." definition: not any. also, the amount trump will pay you for being his lawyer. [applause] in all, the judge corrected habba 14 times over basic lawyering in a single day of testimony. wow. how did she become a lawyer? it didn't hurt that her bar exam only had two qu
habba is, to use a bit of legalese, a bad lawyer. said this in a recent interview. >> somebody said to me, "alina, would you rather be -- would you rather be smart or pretty?" and i said, "oh, easy. pretty." i can fake being smart. >> stephen: counterpoint: no, you can't. 'cause yesterday, she tried to get the trial delayed on the grounds that trump had to go to his mother-in-law's funeral, even though trump is not required to appear at the trial. judge lewis...
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>> alina habba is gloriously challenging. she's very skilled. she has ludicrous confidence, and when you hear her speak, we understand most of what she said is almost entirely made up. entirely untrue. >> yeah, i understand that's what she's saying because that's all she has to say, but judge kaplan, no relation, is one of the most respected judges in new york city. all his rulings were completely appropriate. the rules are the rules. he fold lowed the rules and now donald trump and ms. habba will have to follow the rules. >> after the former president's win in iowa, he gave a speech where he was very generous and unifying and paeople for some reason were, like, this is the new trump, and in new hampshire, he had a different way of operating and after this victory for you all, he has not mentioned your name. he has not said much at all about the case. i'm wondering, is this going to be another thing where he does it for three days and then vefrtvere reverts back to form? or when you look at this case, is there a reason this individual will not b
>> alina habba is gloriously challenging. she's very skilled. she has ludicrous confidence, and when you hear her speak, we understand most of what she said is almost entirely made up. entirely untrue. >> yeah, i understand that's what she's saying because that's all she has to say, but judge kaplan, no relation, is one of the most respected judges in new york city. all his rulings were completely appropriate. the rules are the rules. he fold lowed the rules and now donald trump and...
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i wish that alena habba sounded mad to me, but i don't think she sounds like a mad woman. i think what she's saying might have some legs. not just samuel alito who has gotten everything he's wanted from donald trump, meaning his ability to get rid of roe v. wade and confine women to the stirrups, but clarence thomas, whose wife materially participated in the insurrection. here's what house democrats wrote to justice thomas, askic him to recuse. this time, we must urge you to recuse yourself because your impartiality is questioned by substantial numbers of fair minded members of the public who believe your wife, ginni thomas, of substantial involvement in the events leading up to the january 6th insurrection and the financial incentive it presents for your household if president trump is re-elected are disqualifying. do you question whether this court might feel it owes donald trump and the conservatives might rule in his favor for that reason? >> well, i have to say, if you're skeptical about this court, there's good reason to be skeptical. they have shown they're not a co
i wish that alena habba sounded mad to me, but i don't think she sounds like a mad woman. i think what she's saying might have some legs. not just samuel alito who has gotten everything he's wanted from donald trump, meaning his ability to get rid of roe v. wade and confine women to the stirrups, but clarence thomas, whose wife materially participated in the insurrection. here's what house democrats wrote to justice thomas, askic him to recuse. this time, we must urge you to recuse yourself...
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the lack of competence owe the part of alina habba is glaringly obvious. shown she does not know how to enter evidence. she does not know how to impeach a witness. she does not have the requisite trial skills to be representing the former president of the united states in a multimillion dollar defamation trial and yet you get what you pay for and that is exactly what's happening to donald trump right now. he may like the fact that she is cow towing to him and the maga out there in public, but at the end of the day and number one, for what it's worth, i would love to have a camera and audio in the courtroom so people can see the spectacle that it is, but there are no cameras or audio in the courtroom and it will be trump degree his pressers after court and habba after court saying what they say which is always wrong. it is not an accurate relay of what happened in court and that's the frustrating thing about what happens when there's this perversion of the judicial system. >> you are left with re-enactments which is never good enough to watching it first ha
the lack of competence owe the part of alina habba is glaringly obvious. shown she does not know how to enter evidence. she does not know how to impeach a witness. she does not have the requisite trial skills to be representing the former president of the united states in a multimillion dollar defamation trial and yet you get what you pay for and that is exactly what's happening to donald trump right now. he may like the fact that she is cow towing to him and the maga out there in public, but...
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habba asked if carroll was more well-known before her accusation. replied, my status was lowered. i'm trying to bring my old reputation and status back. the witness following carroll on the stand was a women named ashley humphreys who spoke to the damage caused by the ex president. she was an expert witness in carroll's first try and testified in the trial brought by ruby freeman. the former georgia election workers suffered after trump and giulniccused them of committing fraud and the jury awarded them nearly $150 million in damages. humphreys estimated the cost for carroll to repair her reputation would be between 7.2 and $12.1 million leaving open how much could carroll get if the jury decides with her. will it be enough to stop the ex president from speaking out against her? that's where we start this hour. we have former u.s. attorney mia wiley, state department official during the obama administration, rick stengel, also charlie sykes and outside the courthouse msnbc legal analyst lisa ruben. lisa, what was it like in the courtroom today? dona
habba asked if carroll was more well-known before her accusation. replied, my status was lowered. i'm trying to bring my old reputation and status back. the witness following carroll on the stand was a women named ashley humphreys who spoke to the damage caused by the ex president. she was an expert witness in carroll's first try and testified in the trial brought by ruby freeman. the former georgia election workers suffered after trump and giulniccused them of committing fraud and the jury...
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the 45th president's lawyer, iowa lean a that habba, makes his case. shut down the border or the government, the battle over spending impacts cities and citizens across the country. arizona senate candidate kari lake with president of america first legal stephen miller on biden's dangerous open border. plus, it is on, 303 days until election day in america. the iowa caucuses now in a week followed by new hampshire, nevada, south carolina expect list goes on. -- and the list goes on. will biden and trump lock up their parties' nomination by the middle of march? newt gingrich tracks the road ahead. that's all right here, right now on" sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ maria: and a very warm, happy new year the all. we begin this first sunday morning of the new year kicking off a critical month of january in washington and the start of primary season in this election year. congress returns to work tomorrow morning facing two government funding deadlines to pass a budget for the fiscal year or face a government shutdown within two weeks' time. republicans are p
the 45th president's lawyer, iowa lean a that habba, makes his case. shut down the border or the government, the battle over spending impacts cities and citizens across the country. arizona senate candidate kari lake with president of america first legal stephen miller on biden's dangerous open border. plus, it is on, 303 days until election day in america. the iowa caucuses now in a week followed by new hampshire, nevada, south carolina expect list goes on. -- and the list goes on. will biden...
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former president trump's attorney alina habba joins us now. good morning to you.day. the court said no. how big of a deal is this. initially we asked if we could please postpone today. his mother-in-law clearly just died and he would have liked to have been with his family. the judge said no. >> carley: why? >> his reasoning was something i can't get into but ridiculous, you know, there is security. we have to pay for. i don't know. the most security that gets paid for is the secret service that comes with the president that has to get disrupted, fly, in fly out. but, they have no problem wasting taxpayer dollars for the last three months. so i don't understand that reasoning. he required him to come in when his family is grieving, that's number one. number two, the president, as a defendant, wanted to put words on the record and say that he when he who say in terms of his closing. he has a right to get up and speak. is he a defendant. the judge said oh, okay, but we're going to restrict that speech, again. now, remember, this is a judge that put a gag order on me
former president trump's attorney alina habba joins us now. good morning to you.day. the court said no. how big of a deal is this. initially we asked if we could please postpone today. his mother-in-law clearly just died and he would have liked to have been with his family. the judge said no. >> carley: why? >> his reasoning was something i can't get into but ridiculous, you know, there is security. we have to pay for. i don't know. the most security that gets paid for is the secret...
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and caplan in this case has had him, and alina habba on the tightest of lucius.ate anything, and he has basically said i'm not going to give you leeway -- and alina habba decided to try, but she couldn't get away with it, and i think it is going to blow up in his face, because donald trump is having this jury that is watching this happen, and none of it is positive for donald trump. >> katie phang as, always a pleasure, thank you so much. >> -- >> still ahead, the indicted republican front runner confirms that he is blowing up the senate border deal so he can campaign on a broken border. more on this remarkable turn of events, next. events, next ♪♪ with fastsigns, create factory grade visual solutions to perfect your process. ♪♪ fastsigns. make your statement™. children are the greatest joy and our best hope for a better future. friends, they are the future. but did you know that millions of kids right here in our own backyard are facing hunger every day without healthy food? it's harder to grow, to thrive, to feel their best. the impact when children don't have
and caplan in this case has had him, and alina habba on the tightest of lucius.ate anything, and he has basically said i'm not going to give you leeway -- and alina habba decided to try, but she couldn't get away with it, and i think it is going to blow up in his face, because donald trump is having this jury that is watching this happen, and none of it is positive for donald trump. >> katie phang as, always a pleasure, thank you so much. >> -- >> still ahead, the indicted...
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habba. she has been told to stand up when she speaks to the court, to sit down after the judge rules, and the way that this plays out is with trump's bad behavior in court where this morning he's been disruptive, he's made comments that are audible to the jury that go into matters that the defense has been prohibited from discussing in court, they've been told that they can't revisit the finding that donald trump sexually assaulted e. jean carroll and then defamed her. his comments are an effort to circumvent that rule. and, you know, lawyers don't win arguments with judges in court about how the judge intends to run their courtroom. so this will not end well for ms. habba. it will not end well for trump, and to the extent that a lot of it is happening in front of the jury, jurors aren't blind and they're able to understand these kinds of dynamics, and they do tend to hold them against lawyers and client who misbehave in the courtroom. >> i meant it when it sounded like larry david, i'll rea
habba. she has been told to stand up when she speaks to the court, to sit down after the judge rules, and the way that this plays out is with trump's bad behavior in court where this morning he's been disruptive, he's made comments that are audible to the jury that go into matters that the defense has been prohibited from discussing in court, they've been told that they can't revisit the finding that donald trump sexually assaulted e. jean carroll and then defamed her. his comments are an...
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alina habba joins me now.d to see you. >> good to see you, martha. >> martha: so tell me a little bit about the immunity argument that was made in the court today. we saw the president come out. we heard from him that he believes that he has complete immunity. yet some of the questions that we heard from the three panel -- the three-judge panel were surrounding whether or not that is an absolute situation. they brought up a number of different instances and asked would that provide immunity for a president? in other words, if it has to do with an election, arguing an election, does that fall under the immunity that we've seen prior presidents get for national security actions that they have taken. the word that we've gotten from attorneys watching this is that they are not sure this d.c. court is going to go with the argument that in this situation the former president is immune. what was your take-away from what you heard in there today? >> i've argued presidential immunity ad nauseam because i represent the
alina habba joins me now.d to see you. >> good to see you, martha. >> martha: so tell me a little bit about the immunity argument that was made in the court today. we saw the president come out. we heard from him that he believes that he has complete immunity. yet some of the questions that we heard from the three panel -- the three-judge panel were surrounding whether or not that is an absolute situation. they brought up a number of different instances and asked would that provide...
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i don't know that alina habba or anyone else could have work to miracle mr. trump's favor given that set of facts. >> you know, what katie, the question i have is e. jean carroll ever going to see this money? 83 point $3 million is a lot of money, but we could put it on the screen. new york times has an article that note the trump will be able to wait to pay the full 83.3 million until all appeals are exhausted. how is this going to work? >> yeah, so we've already seen is headed in the first defamation trial with e. jean carroll. donald trump, whether he was able to get a company to be able to facilitate him posting the bond actually ended up posting the entirety of the bond in the amount of five point $6 million by way of stipulation, by way of agreements with e. jean carroll's lawyers. it was deposited into the court where it sets. the money on top of the 5 million-dollar verdict was to cover interest as the case finds its way through the pile process. and this instance, when this case involves this level of punitive damages, local rules in the southern dis
i don't know that alina habba or anyone else could have work to miracle mr. trump's favor given that set of facts. >> you know, what katie, the question i have is e. jean carroll ever going to see this money? 83 point $3 million is a lot of money, but we could put it on the screen. new york times has an article that note the trump will be able to wait to pay the full 83.3 million until all appeals are exhausted. how is this going to work? >> yeah, so we've already seen is headed in...
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i think maybe alina habba, maybe in his own mind, that's a path i can't go. see, but i think it will be a really encouraging sign that the legal system can actually constrain him. >> yeah, third degree burns that. what about alina habba who had testy exchanges with judge at one point, he told her you are on the verge of spending some time in thlock-up. now sit down. later he said, if you vla my instructions again, there may be conces. and then when alina habba tried to raise out on the assault, caplan sent the fact that mr. trump's sexually assaulted -- established by a jury and judge caplan said it is established and you will not quarrel with me. harry, did the trump team miscalculate on their legal strategy? >> look, they have been a comedy of bumbling hours for many months. she does seem to be perfectly chosen to be the wrong lawyer in the courtroom. she got generally locked for not having the basic skills, which i think is true. but more than that, she tussled with the judge. she tussled with, you know, everything about the proceedings. she was trumpian.
i think maybe alina habba, maybe in his own mind, that's a path i can't go. see, but i think it will be a really encouraging sign that the legal system can actually constrain him. >> yeah, third degree burns that. what about alina habba who had testy exchanges with judge at one point, he told her you are on the verge of spending some time in thlock-up. now sit down. later he said, if you vla my instructions again, there may be conces. and then when alina habba tried to raise out on the...