deborah: it's a place called hanahan high school. a small town 30 minutes from charleston. david: then you went to duke university, where you and engineer student? deborah: i was. i studied civil and environmental engineering at duke. david: where there are a lot of women in engineering at that time? deborah: not at that time and probably still not as much as it could be today. i graduated and went to boston consulting group. after that after a couple of years of being in the atlanta office i went to stanford for business school. david: you graduated from stanford and where did you go? deborah: we thought we wanted to move back to the south, we were looking for jobs with the economy was terrible. i stumbled on this startup called paypal, it's fairly large today, but when i was there there was about 300 people in mountain view working with the company and i joined. david: you join paypal and what was your responsibility at paypal? deborah: i joined as a product manager, back then there were a lot of product managers so i wasn't sure with the job was. when i showed up they to