harold tripp guy, harold tripp guy who wrote the big on goldwater way back when. in any event, i'd gone to yale. he'd gone to yale, and we had it all. and we both okay, i didn't vote for the i'll give him one year before the election start and that's what i said. well, take one year to write. tell me pat buchanan actually likes, diversity. i didn't believe that i would write the let's be clear that pat's idea of diversity was protestant yes but i think that's where i'm i, i think that's where i first met you early. what you weren't writing for. well that that was a bit later. i just look old that clinton. that was clinton. clinton her clinton. we're going to get to. okay, we will. okay. anyway, how we got into the white house is you are the fortenberry force of the clinton administration. so you worked for nixon? yeah, that was 71. yep. 71, 72, 73. so what was the nixon white house like? oh, oh, it was it was a little scary, actually it was, you know, there was a time when the nixon house, you know, seemed to be well run operation. i did a first class job in track