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you were political adviser to harriet harman when she was the welfare secretary way back in 1997, just after labour had won a landslide. i remember it like it was yesterday. tony blair and gordon brown outraged many of their own natural supporters by cutting lone—parent benefit. and you were at the centre of it. does it feel familiar? it does. but it also, you know, i know what harriet achieved. my god, she was a powerful champion for change. and if i look at our time in government, we had the first ever national childcare strategy. we had the new dealfor lone parents to help them get into work, family—friendly working for the first time, maternity and paternity pay and leave. so i know how tough it was at the beginning. but i also know at the end of our time in office, the big changes we put in place, which really was a powerful feminist agenda... is that the lesson in a way that you want labour mps to learn? that, look, there were bad times, then they'll be tough times now, but... that is absolutely right, because, you know, iam probably more passionate about tackling child poverty t

so i think since really only since harriet harman wasn't it, that they've decided to do that. so that has now changed. you've got edward lee, who's a conservative mp, and then diane abbott, who was elected in 1987, and they both got to speak today. but they are, if you like, the longest serving members of the house of commons. and if sir edward lee hadn't been around, if, say, he'd retired, then the next longest serving potential father of the house was jeremy corbyn. i know, and so you would. have had jeremy corbyn and diane abbott as mother and. father. i think that only happened. it was all to do with the way that they swore in. so, you know, you have to swear in and take the oath of allegiance before you become an mp. and that's what's going on right now in the commons. and i think it was only because of the order, wasn't it, that they were standing there because i think edward leigh and jeremy corbyn were both elected at the same election. so it was purely about where they happened to be standing when they were sworn in. and in terms of the going backwards and forwards, i

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>> i think that's what harriet harman's point was so good about. that there has to be cross—party collaboration on issues that are directly affect women. well in that way it's going to be on the floor, people will be debating it. and once you put it out there, anyone, like you said, any male mp who then goes against it, you're jeopardising your own position because you're going against 51% of the population. >> so when jess phillips read out a list of murdered women over the past 12 months in parliament on international women's day, do you know how many male mps actually turned up to hear it? three. you've got some great comments coming in on this one, though, leslie says if women were killed by dogs every three days, we would do something about it. men are the only threat to women, and we do nothing. and keith says until such time as an appropriate deterrent exists, i.e. capital punishment , deterrent exists, i.e. capital punishment, nothing will change. life is becoming less valued with time. and andrew, it's a very interesting point, bearing in

harriet harman, they have not rebuilding. harriet harman, they have got 412 _ rebuilding.an, they - have got 412 seats, labour. the vote was 9 million 686. sir keir starmer spoke directly to the people who had not voted for him. he has actually won fewer votes than jeremy corbyn. in 1997, tony blair got 13.5 million. it's extraordinary he has got this success on the back of viewer votes.— got this success on the back of viewer votes. this is a first past the ost viewer votes. this is a first past the post system, _ viewer votes. this is a first past the post system, and _ viewer votes. this is a first past the post system, and one - viewer votes. this is a first past the post system, and one of. viewer votes. this is a first past | the post system, and one of the things— the post system, and one of the things the — the post system, and one of the things the labour— the post system, and one of the things the labour party - the post system, and one of the things the labour party under i the post system, and one of the i things the labour party under keir starmer— things the

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harman, calling her harriet harman, calling her harriet ha person and moves for equality, which is aboutity, which is about equal pay and, you know, things like that. actually, it was sneered at. so i think it's dangerous. i think you can say to people, oh , think you can say to people, oh, boys will be boys, that's okay. but they also need to understand that doesn't give them free reign . but on the upside of it, reign. but on the upside of it, i think anything that engages young people with politics is good. and i would, you know, personally, i would lower the age to 16, but i would make it compulsory. >> claire, you said you think it's quite patronising what joe said about young men not actually being able to make their minds. what do you mean by that, exactly? well, i just mean that, exactly? well, i just mean that we're forming these young characters, haven't you? i've got one lad. i've got three girls and my boys my youngest and i think it'd be quite patronising for him to have received from the mainstream media. look, you know, what this man said is wrong. don't media. look, you k

all the time, you know, harriet harman, they all do it, you know, so how are they oppressed?ghts don't they have? they change the conversation or leave the conversation because they it's a kind of mantra. it's like, you know, the trans debate has a series of things that you're supposed to believe. they're kind of like the beliefs of a religion. so you have to believe that trans women are women. you have to believe that human beings can change sex. you have to believe that they're the most oppressed and marginalised people, and therefore their rights come before the 51% of the population that is female. >> yes. i mean, we've even had the trans day of remembrance for trans people who have died out because of transphobic violence . because of transphobic violence. but, i mean, we must be talking hardly any single digits, hardly any. >> and even in this country where, where there have, where a trans person has been killed, it's not always clear. it's because they're trans. and sometimes there is an involvement with, you know, prostitution and other things. so it's a complete hous

house, baroness harriet harman.ip ? the speakership? >> sir edward, i know you're a man that respects traditions . man that respects traditions. >> indeed, when you ran for speaker in 2019, you were keen to bring back the use of the wig for the speaker. >> hopefully, though, you'll look kindly on me and agree i still have a decent enough head of hair, although not quite as luscious as the former member for lichfield . for lichfield. >> you know, i'm only joking, mike. >> i was thinking just the other day, you must be the only person that went to bed last thursday evening. >> as a father of six children and woke up the father of 649. >> although seriously , it's been >> although seriously, it's been an absolute privilege to serve this house as the hundred and 58th speaker. >> i've got to say that four and a half years of flow with the authority of the chair comes great responsibility, which is something i've never taken lightly or for granted. >> i know from experience that decisions have consequences, but with exper

her 42 baroness harriet harman.er 42 years in office blazed the trail for the rights of women in politics and wider society . when politics and wider society. when harriet was elected , just 3% of harriet was elected, just 3% of mps were women and now this figure stands at 40. so while there's some way to go, that rise is a testament to how undarum work and drive from harriet to never take no for an answer . and harriet to never take no for an answer. and while i'm daunted to have the responsibility of representing parts of her former constituency in camberwell green, i could not have had a better example to learn from my pledge to her and to the new constituents. is that how i do my to best carry on her legacy and being a strong voice in parliament for those communities? lastly, i cannot think of a more fitting replacement as the mother of the house than my good friend , our house than my good friend, our auntie, the right honourable member for hackney north and stoke newington . she was elected stoke newington. sh

. >> do you think there should be a caretaker because of course, in 2010, harriet harman stepped in.n gordon brown sort of stepped back, disappeared, although stayed on as an mp, just not doing his job for five years. did that help the labour party? >> you'll also know the name of the other leader of the labour party, who stepped in on a temporary basis. >> yes. >> yes. >> margaret beckett. >> margaret beckett. >> yes. the only two female, quote unquote, leaders were the unelected leaders. but, you know, i'm really glad you raised that. >> yeah, yeah. no, no, look, i think a caretaker is important because, look, in reality, there's not going to be an election for 4 or 5 years. we know that. and of course, if priti patel got it, imagine the reform leaflets because you're going to say sir keir starmer versus ed davey versus dame priti patel. could you imagine the reform, you know, vote for the reform, you know, vote for the common person . the common person. >> that's the first time that priti patel has been described as establishment. but but aubrey, this is a very long contest, many

frank field, the rebellion was involved in it with harriet harman.him. i think. this is alison. this could be a problem for her. he's going to find out exactly who's sitting behind him. >> yeah, but it's very it's a it's a very tough one, isn't it, patrick? because we have got a birth crisis. you know, we've got a population crisis. we do need to encourage people to have children. so if they're going to introduce this, i liked the child benefits as controversial view when it was a universal benefit because a lot of women they think why give it to rich people? but because it was a it was something everybody had it all. and straight to the mum, all. and straight to the mum, all mum went straight to the mum. you had your sort of child. i mean it was a family allowance when i was a little kid and it meant a lot to my mum. i liked it being a universal benefit, it's interesting, it encouraged you to feel that you are part of a something special. the state valued you as as a mum. >> because there is, there is, there's that, there's all of that and there is

all the time, you know, harriet harman, they all do it, you know, so how are they oppressed? don't they have? they change the conversation or leave the conversation because they it's a kind of mantra. it's like, you know, the trans debate has a series of things that you're supposed to believe. they're kind of like the beliefs of a religion. so you have to believe that trans women are women. you have to believe that human beings can change sex. you have to believe that they're the most oppressed and marginalised people, and therefore their rights come before the 51% of the population that is female. >> yes. i mean, we've even had the trans day of remembrance for trans people who have died out because of transphobic violence . because of transphobic violence. but, i mean, we must be talking hardly any single digits, hardly any. >> and even in this country where, where there have, where a trans person has been killed, it's not always clear. it's because they're trans. and sometimes there is an involvement with, you know, prostitution and other things. so it's a complete house of

. >> and he's put harriet harman in the house of lords, who, as far as i know, thinks the house of lords well, that's why she's there. >> well, that's why she's there. >> she's got a hammer. she's just upset, andrew. >> and she's a great parliamentarian. >> she must be cross. >> she must be cross. >> you're not in there because everybody else is. >> why get me in there? well, and his wife, i cried on saturday when i saw that patrick vallance had been given position. >> i thought of you, bev. i thought of you. >> how did you feel? >> how did you feel? >> not brilliant, but i honestly, i care more about prison reform because that for me provides a much more immediate threat. so timpson was slightly worse to me. >> come on, ben, it's going to take them, at least in the last four years. >> it's going to take at least another four years for that to happen. there are prisoners lending that out now. >> living in a digital prison under this lot. get used to the idea of prison, but only because we can't build physical ones. >> that's why it has to be digital. >> i can defend the only thing i know

gordon brown left it to harriet harman, he could not face it.door office — pushed out of the cabinet door office around the corner. the other teams _ office around the corner. the other teams are — office around the corner. the other teams are going in. they will be waiting — teams are going in. they will be waiting to — teams are going in. they will be waiting to greet keir starmer who will want — waiting to greet keir starmer who will want to hit the ground running. it will— will want to hit the ground running. it will be _ will want to hit the ground running. it will be very quick. the pace will be extraordinary. this is a sedate scene _ be extraordinary. this is a sedate scene but — be extraordinary. this is a sedate scene but behind the scenes it is frenetic — frenetic. you went to the palace frenetic. — you went to the palace with tony blair. i don't know what goes on, tony blair barely ever talked about his discussions with the cream. on the day we went, jonathan powell, in a couple of cars behind the police, tony blair get taken off, eve

so, in fact, i mean, something like, you know, when harriet harman became an mp, her first question wasol care for kids. and margaret thatcher said, don't be ridiculous. you know, this is this is this is private vision. and i have to say, the labour party were on margaret thatcher's side. now, there's absolutely no question that that that the tories and labour talk about child care and the importance of childcare, the importance of childcare, the importance of childcare, the importance of subsidising child care that actually and that's that's really, really important. >> but when you say there's absolutely no question, that's the bit that worries me about the bit that worries me about the left, because there's always a question and we must always be evolving. and it's not necessarily to say that the government should be paying to look after your children, after school. the conversation should be, what do we do with funds to help working parents? do we let us keep more of our own money and spend it in a way that we want on our own child care? or do we let the government provide it for us

predecessor, baroness harriet harman .h, who did so much to harman. yeah, who did so much to work to have an equal and diverse house here. we are going into very tumultuous times and historically , this house has historically, this house has played a role in these events, both nationally and internationally. and i'm sure it will be the same going forward and we will be presided over in the excellent way of the speaker elect here. >> i call the leader of the liberal democrats ed davey . liberal democrats ed davey. >> yay i >> yay! >> yay! >> mr speaker elect, it is a real pleasure and privilege to say on behalf of these benchers, congratulations on your re—election. you know only too well how tough a task you're taking on. so thank you for agreeing to serve. you've shown time and again your commitment to the vital role this house plays in holding the government of the day to account. the new government of the day, as the mother of the house has just said, faces a very difficult task clearing up the mess it has inherited. we

and then harriet harman went to the was the deputy went to the d—day, the deputy went to the d—day, thewhat i say. pause. have a think . pause. have a think. >> i don't normally agree with you matthew, but i agree. i think they've really got to take some time and think about what they want to do and who they are. they've lost their identity, they've lost what really conservative means that this wishy washy blue, the lib more liberal and lib dems and they're divided all this in, you know , fighting. that's what lost know, fighting. that's what lost them in the election. they you know it just destroyed them. so they need to take a step back and have a think of who they want to be. are they going to go back to being true blue tories, or are they going to be this liberal style tories and more forward thinking and agreeing with all this woke nonsense? >> see, what annoys me is when people say, oh well, reform should join the tory party and they're two separate parties. it's like saying the liberal democrats should join the greens, or the snp should join the labour party. it's up to each part

now i think i heard harriet harman say there's about 40% of women that are in women's prisons that aregn nationals. well, they should be deported to free up those spaces. you know, are we looking at electronic tagging? are we looking at tougher licensing? and you're outside of prison? are we looking at taking over when we had for covid example? i mean, i remember being in the cabinet office, we looked at an old holiday camps like butlin's and, you know , things that you and, you know, things that you know, where they weren't being used. can you have alternative accommodation? you know, are there disused army camps or things that you can host people in, but releasing prisoners, whatever the state of the prison estate, the public do not expect a government in its first few days to just give carte blanche freedom to people who are, as peter rightly says, are not low level criminals. there are no such thing as a low level victim. i think peter is absolutely right in that. >> but let's put it in context. there was already a release scheme at 50% of the sentence, andifs scheme at 50% of the

let me ask you a quick supplementary question because listening to harriet harman, the former deputyd about illegal immigration and small boats crossing, what are you going to do about nhs waiting lists. the labour party pointed out manifesto i think they have said, and critics will say adios to this are not adequate, they would refute that, but there is no debate, i think the challenges faced in the uk are extremely significant, so i am sure he will be hoping for some kind of strong mandate, if indeed labour wins this election. but it is interesting, when i spoke to him earlier, following the comments from now astride, the conservatives going around saying they think labour will get a supermajority and keir starmer�*s view was this was a tory tactic to try and suppress the labour votes, and he criticised that, as he saw it as a tactic coming from the a5 a tactic coming from the conservatives. we are going to keep saying this focus of this closing hours of the approach polling day by the labour party to try and motivate people to go out and vote for them, because they might fear the

i must mention my good friend and former constituency neighbour the new baroness harriet harman.nd, our auntie, the right honourable member for hackney south, north and stoke newington. she was elected when i was just six years old and seeing her in the media, making a voice of black women heard in parliament, gave me the confidence that i could stand here and make sure that people in my community could have a voice in my community could have a voice in the decisions that impact them. we stand on your shoulders and we respect and salute you, thank you. i welcome the government does not plan to introduce draft equalities race legislation to build on this work and look forward to working with ministers to develop it. we should not underestimate the difficulty is that both baroness harman and the right honourable member for hackney, north and stoke newington have gone through to make sure their voices are heard and the challenges they face even now. but their trailblazing examples means that those of us elected today face far fewer challenges in representing our communities and we h