i think it's hasakah. hasakah so this is crammed. there's 100 it's hasakah. hasakah so this is crammed. there's100 men in a room . clearly, for me. not room. clearly, for me. not a problem. however, these people are blindfolded. they are bound by their feet and all this kind of stuff. there's like no daylight. they're in corridors . daylight. they're in corridors. well, it's like being in a corridor with no window or whatever. i mean, it sounds utterly inhumane. >> i think it is. i've been watching some footage of these places and it's horrific. it's as my dad would say, it's a dog's breakfast now, because what do you do with these people? lots of the. well, they're all, members of isis or previous jihadists or current. that's the problem, isn't it? you don't know these people, and they're not going to go in there and calm down, are they? they're not going to think, oh, this is fun. i'll tell you what, i've decided i'm not into jihadism anymore. they're going to get more radicalised. it's hideous. and so then what do you eventually do with them? so currently