chief of staff heilmann, and he is the haldeman, and he is the individual who immediately going into the watergate discloses that there are tapes of the white house how you discover haldeman how did you i'm sorry, not haldeman and how did you feel? an instant connection with him. so this was after my conversation with sam and a couple of days after and i had begun the process of back channeling to the january six committee to go in for a third deposition because at the time was thinking, you know, if i can still through this, i maybe i could just get through it unscathed and know that obviously unscathed. but as i'm driving to new jersey one night and, i'm thinking there had to be somebody in the nixon white house that had a similar role or position to what i had a role that required an incredible amount of trust and an incredible amount of the ability to keep things to themselves. and that didn't want to be in that position. but ultimately, you know, did right thing. i just i needed a connection with that had gone through something and i you know, i had heard of john dean but i was