and if you ask them that they look at you like why on earth that would be wildly unethical and huizaro do that, what ethical, bizarre and just creating all kinds of extra materials that could be subpoenaed or whatever. i'll just don't do it. it just seems like a silly thing to do. >> donald trump has said he didn't even like as lawyers to take notes, write much less recorded, and michael cohen testified that he was in the case of this david pecker recording that he was holding the phone, but he wasn't where if donald donald trump didn't know he was being recorded, that's what is very clear from this. so that is it would be one thing to say to your client. hey, is it cool? do you want me to hang onto this for something but it wasn't done with consent and that is usually my problem. assume that trump's attorney would be bringing this up if he thought there was some thing incriminating for his own clients, obviously, they're going down this path for a reason. >> all right. we have a lot to look at here. things are continuing can you mean we're going to keep an eye on that? we're going to