they understand that they wouldd love to switch out joe biden t r someone else. .the problem is, it is veryo. difficult to do. i wonder if moving this debate up to june wasn't in part in an now,effort make sure that gettig out of the presidential debate commission was not a way to serve rfk jr. at the knees who many feel is a threat to biden. it is not even they are worried about people voting for trump, but people want an alternative to biden and the democrat party >> laura: chuck todd laid out why biden needs this debate. watch. >> this campaign as it is going now is losing. you have to change the trajectory.. you need something different toh happen. this is different here at theth eagerness withe which trump accepted, i think the bidenw. campaign is lucky because i think the biden campaign needs us right now. >> laura: cassie, did trumpe? make the right decision here?>> >> sure, why not? donald trump'salcu calculation , if i show up and let joe biden do joe bidenat's my win this de, at least i hope that is his m calculation. but then youad have this other calculation from democrats