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jack smith's next move will be to seek enbbanc review. then whoever loses will go to the supreme court. here's the thing, if donald trump loses in the court of appeals, and it seems quite clear he will, technically he has 90 days to go to the supreme court to seek certificate ori. they may choose to take all 90 of those days which completely blows out the march 4th trial date we have right now. there are other ways the court of appeals can let the district court sort of start to do their work without trying the case, but this puts jack smith in a real bind. forget about march. march is in my view off the board. but any time before the summer, at a certain point you get too close to the election to try the case at all. >> elie, you said something really important i don't want glossed over, and that is that jack smith did not get the expedited review he was looking for with the supreme court of the united states, but he's absolutely getting it from the d.c. court of appeals. >> yeah. i think this is a really important point. both judge chut
jack smith's next move will be to seek enbbanc review. then whoever loses will go to the supreme court. here's the thing, if donald trump loses in the court of appeals, and it seems quite clear he will, technically he has 90 days to go to the supreme court to seek certificate ori. they may choose to take all 90 of those days which completely blows out the march 4th trial date we have right now. there are other ways the court of appeals can let the district court sort of start to do their work...
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this feeds right into jack smith's case. that the then president who was not acting as president of the united states, he was just trying to cling to power. >> jack smith made a big point about the former president trying to disenfranchise millions of voters. there was a situation right there in detroit michigan. >> allegations again but those will be tested in trial. that trial where both sides would be able to present their case is no months away. >> what is your take away from this? this came down pretty quickly. if i'm not mistaken jack smith asked once, then asked again and said, hey, we really need you to give us something on this. the supreme court said, okay. >> the supreme court actually gave these tight deadline to both sides to weigh in before making this decision. it was clear that somebody, john roberts, perhaps others, on the court did want to at least take a look at this and decide whether to consider this for request. what we see here now is well, we know that the appeals court has also decided to move very q
this feeds right into jack smith's case. that the then president who was not acting as president of the united states, he was just trying to cling to power. >> jack smith made a big point about the former president trying to disenfranchise millions of voters. there was a situation right there in detroit michigan. >> allegations again but those will be tested in trial. that trial where both sides would be able to present their case is no months away. >> what is your take away...
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jack smith decided not to play that game. at 12:30 pm today, jack smith filed a petition directly to the united states supreme court, asking the supreme court to use its power to reach down and take this case off of the appeals court docket for immediate consideration by the supreme court. at the same time, jack smith filed a backup motion with the appeals court to expedite the appeal at the appeals court level if the supreme court refuses to take the case at this stage. and just five hours later, the supreme court responded favorably to jack smith, and a half hour after that, the court of appeals responded favorably to jack smith. the united states supreme court issued an order saying the court granted jackson its request to consider taking the case on an expedited basis. the supreme court has not decided to take the case, but has decided to consider jack smith's argument that the supreme court should take the case. the supreme court then gave donald trump's lawyers until next wednesday, december 20th, four pm, to file and r
jack smith decided not to play that game. at 12:30 pm today, jack smith filed a petition directly to the united states supreme court, asking the supreme court to use its power to reach down and take this case off of the appeals court docket for immediate consideration by the supreme court. at the same time, jack smith filed a backup motion with the appeals court to expedite the appeal at the appeals court level if the supreme court refuses to take the case at this stage. and just five hours...
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smith has come back and again, i should stress that jack smith is speaking on behalf of the united states the department of justice saying, no, the kind of conduct at issue here needs to be put to trial and it needs to be put to trial as soon as possible. and right now, everything has been on hold because donald trump is saying he cannot be tried, because he should enjoy immunity from criminal prosecution. he says that the actions that are in dispute occurred as part of his official work when he was a president back in 2020, and jack smith is saying is, no, that cannot be that he should be shielded. this is something that never has been tested, kate, the question of whether the former president or the sitting president should be immune from a criminal prosecution, and he is asking for complete immunity here. it is a very big question, and as i say, only the u.s. supreme court can answer that definitively. >> i want to bring in cnn's katelyn polantz here as well. a big development, and read quickly a little bit of what jack smith told the justices in the court papers because i think it hit
smith has come back and again, i should stress that jack smith is speaking on behalf of the united states the department of justice saying, no, the kind of conduct at issue here needs to be put to trial and it needs to be put to trial as soon as possible. and right now, everything has been on hold because donald trump is saying he cannot be tried, because he should enjoy immunity from criminal prosecution. he says that the actions that are in dispute occurred as part of his official work when...
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smith's request and put questions on this and why they made this decision to didn't jack smith's request, but in the time since jack smith went to them, the appellate court has certainly given a tight decline deadline and they will get this request back maybe in the next few weeks, but what we do know is the march 4th schedule for a trial for donald trump to go on trial for the first time, that is almost certainly not going to happen. >> and ellie, we talk so much about the time line here and now the legal time line lines up with the election time line. you pointed out smith didn't mention the election time line in this request, tell us why? >> well, i can't speak for by jack smith refuses to get this in and any fair minded observer understand that's why he's pushing so hard, but he refuses to say it because it's contemporary to doj's policy to say this, and it was the weakness in jack smith's briefing, he said over and over, veteran, this is a momentous case, but that is not the question when it comes to whether it needs to be expedited, the question is there a need for speed? jack smit
smith's request and put questions on this and why they made this decision to didn't jack smith's request, but in the time since jack smith went to them, the appellate court has certainly given a tight decline deadline and they will get this request back maybe in the next few weeks, but what we do know is the march 4th schedule for a trial for donald trump to go on trial for the first time, that is almost certainly not going to happen. >> and ellie, we talk so much about the time line here...
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but jack smith has already eviscerated that policy.very filing he makes he's been trying to get this trial before super tuesday, before the general election, so he's really flipped the script here. and i think that that's going to become more and more problematic for jack smith as he gets closer to the general election itself. because once again, people are going to be asking why, why are you doing this? and you have to be able to say something other than this is a really important case. because there's lots of important cases. the question is, why is it important to try it before the election? and the best he can come up with is the voters should know if the president -- if a candidate is a felon. but once again, that policy that you noted, john, is -- is set to avoid that, the department of justice does not want their cases to influence elections. because even if trump is convicted, there are major appellate issues that would have to be litigated and any conviction could easily be thrown out. so, there's a long road ahead for jack sm
but jack smith has already eviscerated that policy.very filing he makes he's been trying to get this trial before super tuesday, before the general election, so he's really flipped the script here. and i think that that's going to become more and more problematic for jack smith as he gets closer to the general election itself. because once again, people are going to be asking why, why are you doing this? and you have to be able to say something other than this is a really important case....
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jack smith's calling his bluff.basically saying, if you really think you have immunity, let's go to the ultimate decider now, and i think that's a good move here. it's bold, but it's what's required. because if you have a delay here, i think it's likely that president trump will never see a day in court room if he was a presidency. >> reporter: how do you think the court sees this? you've been on the other side of the trump delaying tactic. they don't shy away from it, the openly acknowledge it. that it's a tactic of there is to delay this past the election. how do you think the supreme court looks at this? >>> in our own experience of litigating to the supreme court and trying to obtain trump's tax returns, first of all, every court at every level treated it seriously. the district court, the pellet, court the second circuit, and the supreme court in terms of moving the case in its calendar. so i think they will treat this as a serious issue. i don't know how they come out, but i do think they will -- they understa
jack smith's calling his bluff.basically saying, if you really think you have immunity, let's go to the ultimate decider now, and i think that's a good move here. it's bold, but it's what's required. because if you have a delay here, i think it's likely that president trump will never see a day in court room if he was a presidency. >> reporter: how do you think the court sees this? you've been on the other side of the trump delaying tactic. they don't shy away from it, the openly...
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jack smith is basically calling his bluff. he's saying, if you think you have immunity, let's go to the ultimate decider now. it's bold but i think it's what's required. if you have a delay here, i think it's president trump would never see a day in the courtroom if he wins the presidency. >> how do you think the courtesies this. you have been on the other side of the trump delay tactic. they don't shy away from it. they openly acknowledge this is a tactic of theirs, to delay this past the election. how do you think the supreme court looks at this? >> you know, in our own experience in litigating to the supreme court in trying to obtain trump's tax returns, first of all, the -- every court at every level treated it seriously. the district court, appellate court, second circuit, and the supreme court in terms of moving the case in its calendar. i think they will treat this as a serious issue. i don't know how they come out, but i do think that they will -- they understand the importance and the timing of smith's request. and i
jack smith is basically calling his bluff. he's saying, if you think you have immunity, let's go to the ultimate decider now. it's bold but i think it's what's required. if you have a delay here, i think it's president trump would never see a day in the courtroom if he wins the presidency. >> how do you think the courtesies this. you have been on the other side of the trump delay tactic. they don't shy away from it. they openly acknowledge this is a tactic of theirs, to delay this past...
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i think jack smith ought to say it or not. first of all, if jack smith is try ining to get this case trie before the election and he clearly is, that is political. the counter argument would be, well, jack smith just wants the american voters to have resolution before they go to the ballot box. i understand that. as a voter, i would like to know. but here's the problem with that argument. jack smith doesn't just want to get this trial done and let the chips fall where they may and let the consequences be what they can be. he's the prosecutor. he believes this case. he wants this case to result in conviction. so his position isn't just, well, i want this case tried before the election. his position really is i want donald trump convicted before the election. i have no problem with the first part of that. it's his job to want and try to convict donald trump. but the second part of that, before the election, that's where its crosses the line to the political, in my view. >> chat gpt tells me, so take it with a grain of salt, betw
i think jack smith ought to say it or not. first of all, if jack smith is try ining to get this case trie before the election and he clearly is, that is political. the counter argument would be, well, jack smith just wants the american voters to have resolution before they go to the ballot box. i understand that. as a voter, i would like to know. but here's the problem with that argument. jack smith doesn't just want to get this trial done and let the chips fall where they may and let the...
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but for the criminal cases with jack smith, it's not clear if jack smith has this tape. he probably does or he might because he had such a wide reaching investigation. but it's clearly powerful evidence. trump's own voice. and it fits a pattern. as you mentioned in the top, pam, georgia, arizona, michigan, one state after another trying to twist people's arms, pressure them to break their oaths to the constitution. pressure them to overturn results of a lawful election. in jack smith's words, trump tried to disenfranchise millions of voters by doing things just like this. >> yeah. and for context for our viewers, trump would have had to have three states flip. three states that had voted for biden legally, he would have had to have three states flip in order for him to actually win unlawfully. so that's important context as you look at the pattern around these phone calls in these various states. has the former president or ronna mcdaniel responded to this reporting? >> you know, it's pretty incredible they put out a response so quickly. clearly this is something that ha
but for the criminal cases with jack smith, it's not clear if jack smith has this tape. he probably does or he might because he had such a wide reaching investigation. but it's clearly powerful evidence. trump's own voice. and it fits a pattern. as you mentioned in the top, pam, georgia, arizona, michigan, one state after another trying to twist people's arms, pressure them to break their oaths to the constitution. pressure them to overturn results of a lawful election. in jack smith's words,...
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how much does this set back jack smith?this is definitely a setback for jack smith who had hoped to leapfrog the court of appeals and go straight to the supreme court. he will have to first litigate the matter in the d.c. circuit court of appeals. in the meantime, since he filed this request with the supreme court, the d.c. circuit said they would hear the question on an expedited basis. they have set oral argument in the case for january 9th. if they decide fairly quickly, then we could be back at the supreme court maybe in a month or so, if the court acts quickly or it could be that they take their time and we don't decide the case until june, in which case, the trial will be delayed by that amount. i think the march 4th trial date is in some trouble now. that doesn't mean it can't be tried before the election. we're looking more at a summer trial instead of a spring trial. >> which potentially affects the elector, barbara. i mean, how long would a trial like this take? >> i have assumed it would take about two months, th
how much does this set back jack smith?this is definitely a setback for jack smith who had hoped to leapfrog the court of appeals and go straight to the supreme court. he will have to first litigate the matter in the d.c. circuit court of appeals. in the meantime, since he filed this request with the supreme court, the d.c. circuit said they would hear the question on an expedited basis. they have set oral argument in the case for january 9th. if they decide fairly quickly, then we could be...
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jack smith's ruling to that case.ith was one of the prosecutors in this case but this is something the trump has been harping on for a long time. i think when it actually shows is the trouble that the trump legal team knows it has with the fact that we are going to the supreme court because they have to effectively make the argument to the supreme court well actually should wait for the appeals court to see if you take it up or not. i think that's a very narrow line for them to go down. >> i kneel i think it's fair to say that this supreme court has become politicized in the eyes of many americans. and obviously, donald trump believes are least he is saying all these charges against him are just political persecution. how do you think the court is going to handle this? you've got three people on that bench that donald trump is responsible for? >> yes, there were three people in the nixon case that nixon had himself appointed. one took himself out, the other two ruled against nixon. similarly here, i find that question
jack smith's ruling to that case.ith was one of the prosecutors in this case but this is something the trump has been harping on for a long time. i think when it actually shows is the trouble that the trump legal team knows it has with the fact that we are going to the supreme court because they have to effectively make the argument to the supreme court well actually should wait for the appeals court to see if you take it up or not. i think that's a very narrow line for them to go down....
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he's going after jack smith now. i think we're seeing trump and his back against the wall. is there danger in that? sure. we can talk about the fact that our christmas he right go to hell, so maybe you truly has lost it. but it does give us cause for danger and concern. he is currently an economic with joe biden. some polls have him ahead. this is an indicator when he says that he is running for retribution that he will do what he says he's going to do. what would he do today if he was in office with the power to use the department of justice for his own means? i think we know where his frame of mind is. we know what his intent is. if -- mar-a-lago >>, your lawyer here. what are you gleaning from what jack smith is basically saying in this latest filing about the evidence he has? we know we're in discovery now. i want to read a quote from the filing. let me know if you think about it. the government anticipates calling witnesses was knowledge of information protected by certain privileges, including the attorney client privilege and the speech or debate privilege. i don't k
he's going after jack smith now. i think we're seeing trump and his back against the wall. is there danger in that? sure. we can talk about the fact that our christmas he right go to hell, so maybe you truly has lost it. but it does give us cause for danger and concern. he is currently an economic with joe biden. some polls have him ahead. this is an indicator when he says that he is running for retribution that he will do what he says he's going to do. what would he do today if he was in...
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jack smith. and jack smith today asked the supreme court again, move quickly, he says. bypass the appeals process. give a ruling on whether trump is immune from the alleged crimes he committed in office regarding efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the question is, professor, will jack smith prevail? will the supreme court move on this? >> i think he will. whether the supreme court actually leapfrogs the court of appeals or decides that because the court of appeals is now moving on the fastest imaginable track that it can wait a few days, is really beside the point. the question is will jack smith get a final ruling from the united states supreme court rejecting the quite extreme claims of absolute immunity for essentially everything he did while president. and i think the answer is it will get the ruling because the supreme court, whatever its ideological leanings, recognizes that the people of the united states are entitled to get an answer before the election to the question, are we voting for someone who committed grave crimes while in office. crimes that involve
jack smith. and jack smith today asked the supreme court again, move quickly, he says. bypass the appeals process. give a ruling on whether trump is immune from the alleged crimes he committed in office regarding efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the question is, professor, will jack smith prevail? will the supreme court move on this? >> i think he will. whether the supreme court actually leapfrogs the court of appeals or decides that because the court of appeals is now moving on the...
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smith is ruining their holiday, which jack smith replied today, no he's not. the brief is due before that. there's a lot of ridiculous things in their brief about that. this is a case of monumental importance. you wouldn't expect professional attorneys to be quibbling about having their holidays ruined by actually doing their job. >> emily, same question. that is the big question. for viewers just joining us, the judge who had been so tough on many of trump's lawyers has paused this coup case for now. emily, can it be there's a loophole where it wouldn't be dealt with before an election? >> you know, that's possible. i'm not sure how much choice i think the judge had here. you know, this is an unprecedented case. you have it going to the supreme court. yes, it's a narrow issue, but it's fundamentally about the president's power. the supreme court indicated it may move quickly because it asked for briefing next week. i think what judge chutkan is doing is showing respect for the process and the role of the supreme court deciding this issue. it's a curious situa
smith is ruining their holiday, which jack smith replied today, no he's not. the brief is due before that. there's a lot of ridiculous things in their brief about that. this is a case of monumental importance. you wouldn't expect professional attorneys to be quibbling about having their holidays ruined by actually doing their job. >> emily, same question. that is the big question. for viewers just joining us, the judge who had been so tough on many of trump's lawyers has paused this coup...
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, which would be what jack smith would not want. robert ray, thank you, elie honig, thank you. i'll see you sooner on this other breaking news about rudy giuliani whose financial troubles just got worse tonight. >>> also up next what colorado voters are telling gary tuchman about the ballot ruling. >>> and the newest threat from iceland still erupting and still a dangerous volcano just ahead on "360." . >>> at the top of the program you heard president biden rule in that the former president is an insurrectionist. before the break, our legal panel had plenty to say. and right now, what a group of colorado voters make of all of this. our gary tuchman did the asking. >> reporter: this coffee shop in colorado goes by the simple name of coffee. and it's here we have a simple question for customers. tell me your gut feeling. do you think it's a good thing the colorado supreme court did that or not a good thing? >> you know, i'm not the biggest fan of trump, but i don't think people should be taken off the ballot necessarily. >> this man
, which would be what jack smith would not want. robert ray, thank you, elie honig, thank you. i'll see you sooner on this other breaking news about rudy giuliani whose financial troubles just got worse tonight. >>> also up next what colorado voters are telling gary tuchman about the ballot ruling. >>> and the newest threat from iceland still erupting and still a dangerous volcano just ahead on "360." . >>> at the top of the program you heard president biden...
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jack smith today asking the supreme court to immediately just weigh in and decide whether jack smith'sen thus far, where he won a ruling -- trump as a former president is not immune from potentially going on trial, that he should go through the normal course and not have the whole thing tossed. so jacks mitt the saying, we won, we don't want to wait for the usual longer delays of an appeals process. get the supreme court in. the court agreeing to consider the issue, setting a deadline for trump to respond by december 20th. meaning, on the timeline, jack smith is getting his way. whether he'll get the result he wants is an open question. i'm gonna put that daniel enjoys in a moment. smith says this case prevents -- nixon watergate president, where the court did also move things along. swiftly, compelling then president nixon to hand over the secret audiotapes. smith, backed by the doj here, is arguing that this case has similarly consequential, i should say consequential issues of presidential privilege. the move comes after many filings over the whole course of this, including this wee
jack smith today asking the supreme court to immediately just weigh in and decide whether jack smith'sen thus far, where he won a ruling -- trump as a former president is not immune from potentially going on trial, that he should go through the normal course and not have the whole thing tossed. so jacks mitt the saying, we won, we don't want to wait for the usual longer delays of an appeals process. get the supreme court in. the court agreeing to consider the issue, setting a deadline for trump...
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jack smith actually was trying to, as you know, speed it up. your thoughts on all of that and what we expect to be, if this trend line continues, in an election year next year, iowa caucus next month, january appeals board, january 9th appeals hearing on this, all of this stuff will keep kicking around? >> it's pretty busy for a slow news day, right? first of all, jack smith when he filed that motion, he was 100% on target, ari. that and all of those points that trump might try to make or his attorneys might try to make during the trial are completely irrelevant as to whether or not he is guilty as charged. it's irrelevant what his thoughts are about joe biden or whether he thinks the prosecution is political. where the challenge will be, will judge chutkan be able to shut down his attorneys as they tried to make those arguments anyways, in defiance of her order. that's what i anticipate happening. it's a showdown that has occurred in many criminal trials. his defense attorneys want to insert irrelevant unimportant factoids in the trial to try
jack smith actually was trying to, as you know, speed it up. your thoughts on all of that and what we expect to be, if this trend line continues, in an election year next year, iowa caucus next month, january appeals board, january 9th appeals hearing on this, all of this stuff will keep kicking around? >> it's pretty busy for a slow news day, right? first of all, jack smith when he filed that motion, he was 100% on target, ari. that and all of those points that trump might try to make or...
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let's jacks mitt saying let's skip that, identifies a weak space in jack smith's. argument jack smith would say in quarter in his brief that the reason he wants to speed this up is because he wants to try donald trump before the election. instead what jack smith gives us in his brief is a bunch of vague gibberish where he says well, delay is bad and speed is good and we need speed because of the important because we don't want to live. donald trump's team quite effectively says that's not a specific reason. they have to give a specific reason, that's just vague, you shouldn't grant that unless they say the specific reason. and i think trump's team knows full where there's no way interject smith will ever acknowledge that if the election. i think jack smith is counting on and hoping the supreme court will read between the lines and get the win quake hair. but i think it's a coin toss as to whether the supreme court does with this one. >> they're big on jack smith not immediately admitting that, which would look political. which jacks mitt would not want. robert ray,
let's jacks mitt saying let's skip that, identifies a weak space in jack smith's. argument jack smith would say in quarter in his brief that the reason he wants to speed this up is because he wants to try donald trump before the election. instead what jack smith gives us in his brief is a bunch of vague gibberish where he says well, delay is bad and speed is good and we need speed because of the important because we don't want to live. donald trump's team quite effectively says that's not a...
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the average person out there is taking this as a huge blow to jack smith? >> they shouldn't. in one sentence they just said, we're not hearing the case now to be as simple as i can make a. jack smith wanted them to leapfrog, job over the d.c. circuit court of appeal and hear the case i. because they're gonna hear it anyway so his view was, public interest is very important, it's a case that demands a media tension an immediate resolution. what he did not do, which he didn't talk about the peak element in the room, he wants this case tried before november 2024, because if donald trump becomes the nominee and he gets reelected, they'll be no case. his argument to expedite the supreme court expedited, i won't say it was weak, but he left out than money shot which is you need to do this because the election is happening. all the supreme court did was look at the circuit court of appeals which is expediting the appeal, and hear oral arguments on january 9th, and say, let them do it first. it's procedurally correct, it would've been unusual for them to leapfrog over the dc circuit
the average person out there is taking this as a huge blow to jack smith? >> they shouldn't. in one sentence they just said, we're not hearing the case now to be as simple as i can make a. jack smith wanted them to leapfrog, job over the d.c. circuit court of appeal and hear the case i. because they're gonna hear it anyway so his view was, public interest is very important, it's a case that demands a media tension an immediate resolution. what he did not do, which he didn't talk about the...
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the first is a warning from jack smith. he warns about the danger that the absolute maunt claim poses. he claims, rather than vindicating our constitutional framework, it threatens to license presidents to commit crimes in office. the founders would never have count nanced it. making it clear if the court sides with donald trump, this could have reverberations. he goes on to also really emphasize the historical appointment. how relevant this is for the future of america. he said siding with trump would threaten -- sorry, that this prosecution threatens to shatter the very bed rock of our rep republic. to engage in an unprecedented attack ever to retain power through criminal means despite having lost the election that threatens our democratic and constitutional foundation of our republic. so basically saying, look, it's not trump's presidential immunity claim, it is the failure to reject that claim that is the true threat. >> clearly a big constitutional question lying out there for the court of appeals. really, we know the
the first is a warning from jack smith. he warns about the danger that the absolute maunt claim poses. he claims, rather than vindicating our constitutional framework, it threatens to license presidents to commit crimes in office. the founders would never have count nanced it. making it clear if the court sides with donald trump, this could have reverberations. he goes on to also really emphasize the historical appointment. how relevant this is for the future of america. he said siding with...
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the indictment said jack smith. somebody at the justice department would have to take over those prosecutions. the biden justice department will no longer be able to say, it is not really us, it is him. whatever separation one gets from having a special counsel, they would lose that. >> i agree. >> that seems like a good place to wrap up. on behalf of the federal society i want to thank everybody for joining us today. -- the federalist society, i want to thank everybody for joining us today. there will be plenty more updates in 2024 so we encourage you to keep an eye on our website and emails. we welcome listener feedback at info at fed-soc.org. have a great holiday season area merry christmas and happy new year. we are ♪ host: good morning. it is sunday, december 24, 2023, christmas eve. as summer
the indictment said jack smith. somebody at the justice department would have to take over those prosecutions. the biden justice department will no longer be able to say, it is not really us, it is him. whatever separation one gets from having a special counsel, they would lose that. >> i agree. >> that seems like a good place to wrap up. on behalf of the federal society i want to thank everybody for joining us today. -- the federalist society, i want to thank everybody for joining...
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no, jack smith has been working away. this morning, the special counsel released a scathing report about the ex-president about his rhetoric and disinformation, the kind of rhetoric and disinformation we have heard over and over and over again. whether it's when trump is bloviating about election interference outside his trial in new york, or in a late-night christmas rage post on truth social. now donald trump can say what he wants online outside of court. but what we cannot do, jack smith argues, is make dubious clai before a jury for his upcoming federal election interference trial. quote, through statement public filings and arguments and hearings bore the court, the defense has attempted to inject into this case partisan political attacks and irrelevant and prejudicial issues that have no place in a jury trial. although the court can recognize these efforts for what they are and disregard them, the jury, as subjected to them, may not. the court shall not permit the defendant to turn the courtroom into a forum in whic
no, jack smith has been working away. this morning, the special counsel released a scathing report about the ex-president about his rhetoric and disinformation, the kind of rhetoric and disinformation we have heard over and over and over again. whether it's when trump is bloviating about election interference outside his trial in new york, or in a late-night christmas rage post on truth social. now donald trump can say what he wants online outside of court. but what we cannot do, jack smith...
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but jack smith was trying to jump all the way to the supreme court. they said no today, so it will go back to the regular process the way it usually works with the d.c. circuit court of appeals. oral arguments are scheduled for january 9th. we all know what's going to happen after that. probably go right back to the supreme court. >> take out the probably. it's going back to the supreme court. everyone is saying why not just answer the question right now, but they want the process to go forward. >> let's move on to the next one. this is for you, laura. has any president ever been granted the immunity that trump is asking for? >> no. we're in the wild, wild west. the reason it's so important is because we have seen when it comes to maybe a civil matter with president clinton, actually before he was in office, a different ball game. this involves the request for immunity for criminal conduct that is being alleged while one is in office. it has never been asked before in this degree and for these reasons. so that's why everyone's leaning in to figure out
but jack smith was trying to jump all the way to the supreme court. they said no today, so it will go back to the regular process the way it usually works with the d.c. circuit court of appeals. oral arguments are scheduled for january 9th. we all know what's going to happen after that. probably go right back to the supreme court. >> take out the probably. it's going back to the supreme court. everyone is saying why not just answer the question right now, but they want the process to go...
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jack smith had gone to the u.s.upreme court to say supreme court, please resolve this now, rather than wait for an intermediate appellate court to handle this, as i say, preliminary stage question. the supreme court today in a one-sentence order, no explanation or even recorded vote, said no, keep it at the pealed stage. some questions have arisen on the timing going forward. the appellate court will handle this. it's scheduled to have oral arguments on january 9th. we don't know when they'll rule. even if they rule quickly, donald trump, if he's the loser in that case, as he was in the tran trial jorkt, he has 90 days to delay. he could continue to drag this out. >> delay, delay, delay, this will help them delay. does this pry any insight, joan, as to how the justices view this? >> absolutely not. it's a discrete question and how they'll have to answer -- is the former president immunity from criminal prosecution. that question has never come to them. they will have to answer it ultimately down the line, which coul
jack smith had gone to the u.s.upreme court to say supreme court, please resolve this now, rather than wait for an intermediate appellate court to handle this, as i say, preliminary stage question. the supreme court today in a one-sentence order, no explanation or even recorded vote, said no, keep it at the pealed stage. some questions have arisen on the timing going forward. the appellate court will handle this. it's scheduled to have oral arguments on january 9th. we don't know when they'll...
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jack smith is basically saying, well, try this.ll say that they actually need more time in order to properly brief this issue around the immunity. >> you are saying you think the supreme court is going to rule, essentially, in jack smith's favor against donald trump? >> this is really pivotal. if the supreme court were to actually hold that an ex president has immunity from criminal prosecution, it is pretty much the opening bell in the end of the american republic. it is that big of a deal. it would effectively say that we have a super class of citizens who are above the law. that would just be the end. >> stunning. >> i do believe they will not do that. i do not think they are going to do that. >> let's move to georgia where d.a. fani willis has 18 codendts facing election conspiracy and racketeering charges could take plea days and potentially turning against him. adding the silly notion that trump's case should be applause because he is running for office. does flipping codefendant give the d.a. the best shot of success? >> tha
jack smith is basically saying, well, try this.ll say that they actually need more time in order to properly brief this issue around the immunity. >> you are saying you think the supreme court is going to rule, essentially, in jack smith's favor against donald trump? >> this is really pivotal. if the supreme court were to actually hold that an ex president has immunity from criminal prosecution, it is pretty much the opening bell in the end of the american republic. it is that big...
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jack smith has followed this lead as well.e talked to national security officials who looked into allegations of foreign interference with voting machines, found no such evidence. jack smith has even gone further, joy, and actually spoken to some additional members of the trump administration who themselves were able to rebut the notion of any foreign interference. jack smith wants to show that because president trump repeated allegations of voter fraud, despite the fact he was told repeatedly, our evidence of his deception and his specific intent to disrupt the joint session. >> katie, let me go to you on this. the special counsel says they're going to call three data location experts to testify in the d.c. trial. the bottom line, they reviewed the phones that were operating inside the white house, and the phones being used by the defendant, meaning donald trump and another person called individual one, and specifically identified the periods of time when the defendant's phone was unlocked and the twitter application was open
jack smith has followed this lead as well.e talked to national security officials who looked into allegations of foreign interference with voting machines, found no such evidence. jack smith has even gone further, joy, and actually spoken to some additional members of the trump administration who themselves were able to rebut the notion of any foreign interference. jack smith wants to show that because president trump repeated allegations of voter fraud, despite the fact he was told repeatedly,...
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as it relates to the federal case, jack smith was pretty surgical about his indictment. he didn't go broad. he went very surgical in terms of the case he's brought. the information has been exchanged. discovery was exchanged and yeah, it's an aggressive schedule but it's a tight case. >> we'll see who is right. you guys agree on a lot of things. i wonder what the supreme court will ultimately agree on. i bet it's to take up this case but when is the question. james shields, michael moorer, thank you so much for joining me. if i don't see you, happy holidays and the best of new year's to you. >> thanks, same to you. >> you, too. >>> it's been a very long week, long as in law ng. see what i did there? if you've got questions about what's going on with all these comp located legal cases, you are not alone. there involving trump, there involving giuliani, there involving a lot of people. guess whwhat -- we've e got tht answswer when i i go through so of your quesestions at the magi wall, nenext. >>> look, there are plenty of legal headlines we can sort through regarding form
as it relates to the federal case, jack smith was pretty surgical about his indictment. he didn't go broad. he went very surgical in terms of the case he's brought. the information has been exchanged. discovery was exchanged and yeah, it's an aggressive schedule but it's a tight case. >> we'll see who is right. you guys agree on a lot of things. i wonder what the supreme court will ultimately agree on. i bet it's to take up this case but when is the question. james shields, michael...
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jack smith is a beast, jack smith is a beast when it comes to this.nows exactly what needs to be done and he's doing it incredibly well. he's not going to let trump do what we all know trump does best and that is delay, delay, delay. yes, you are right laura, he beat him to the punch. he beat that whole legal team to the punch and he is now going to have the supreme court weigh in on it before in ultimate decision. can you imagine that a president is entitled to immunity for life on anything that they do? i mean, it goes against the very fabric of our constitution and american democracy. they are making the president into a king, which, of course, is exactly contrary >> that's the exact argument of the lower court. the district court says if your president, everything you do becomes presidential. let me ask you about mar-a-lago, we because we have exclusive reporting that a former mar-a-lago employees, now witness in the federal documents case, a lot of cases. there were contacted by trump months after the case after he quit his job, and offered legal
jack smith is a beast, jack smith is a beast when it comes to this.nows exactly what needs to be done and he's doing it incredibly well. he's not going to let trump do what we all know trump does best and that is delay, delay, delay. yes, you are right laura, he beat him to the punch. he beat that whole legal team to the punch and he is now going to have the supreme court weigh in on it before in ultimate decision. can you imagine that a president is entitled to immunity for life on anything...
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we heard what jack smith is trying to do. good move or bad move do you think? i agree with you. you're right about your legal analysis. you could have been the next clarence darrow. you missed your calling. larry: [laughter]. >> i agree that special counsel smith wants to basically butt in front of the line, skip the normal test to send to it the supreme court expedited ruling. the supremes don't like that. he wants to have the trial in march in it middle of primaries. why? he fears any delay of typical appellate rule, would interfere with his plans to gain a trial and conviction before the election which frankly smacks of election interference. frankly most americans see it that way why trump's support continues to go up. you know the justices will likely see this for what it is, larry. it is pretty rare for them accept any case without a decision by the d.c. circuit court. so i tend to doubt they're going to take a direct appeal but there is more to it than that. there is no precedent for this case. all the more reason why the supreme court is going to want t
we heard what jack smith is trying to do. good move or bad move do you think? i agree with you. you're right about your legal analysis. you could have been the next clarence darrow. you missed your calling. larry: [laughter]. >> i agree that special counsel smith wants to basically butt in front of the line, skip the normal test to send to it the supreme court expedited ruling. the supremes don't like that. he wants to have the trial in march in it middle of primaries. why? he fears any...
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is this a rebuke to jack smith? >> it absolutely is. this is the supreme court unanimously saying with no recorded dissents it's too early to consider the issues in this case. we need to work through the normal appellate process. so jack smith to try to jump-start this entire thing goes straight to the supreme court, thought he could secure some kind of victory and then give the bays -- get the case remanded and run trump through all of the machinations of a trial in the middle of an election year. now it goes back to the d.c. court of appeals where it will be heard many due course. elizabeth: yeah. so, france item y, when you -- francey, jack smith already said in a filing, the case is now on hold, that the supreme court, are we reading it right, they basically said, no, we're not going to do what you want. legal pros have never heard, francey, of an unconfirmed, unelected prosecutor jump ahead and try to kim sum -- circumvent the appeals court process. does this show smith wanted trump convicted before the election? >> well, you know,
is this a rebuke to jack smith? >> it absolutely is. this is the supreme court unanimously saying with no recorded dissents it's too early to consider the issues in this case. we need to work through the normal appellate process. so jack smith to try to jump-start this entire thing goes straight to the supreme court, thought he could secure some kind of victory and then give the bays -- get the case remanded and run trump through all of the machinations of a trial in the middle of an...
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it is a win for the trump team and a defeat for jack smith.in mind that jack smith did a very aggressive move here. he was looking to leap frog the court of appeals and take this immunity question directly to the supreme court of the united states. that is not how the supreme court normally decides cases. it would have been an extraordinary maneuver if he succeeded in doing what he tried to do. doesn't surprise me the supreme court said no. but the way that this will now play out is that they're now back in the court of appeals and it will issue a decision and the supreme court months from now will have another chance to take on this immunity issue if it wants to. the significance of this, it will result in probably delaying that march 4 trial date. >> neil: to how late? what do you think? >> well, my gut tells me at a minimum we're talking the summer. at a minimum. it could go beyond that. it depends how quickly things move in the court of appeals and depends on what the court of appeals says and whether one of the parties tries to get that d
it is a win for the trump team and a defeat for jack smith.in mind that jack smith did a very aggressive move here. he was looking to leap frog the court of appeals and take this immunity question directly to the supreme court of the united states. that is not how the supreme court normally decides cases. it would have been an extraordinary maneuver if he succeeded in doing what he tried to do. doesn't surprise me the supreme court said no. but the way that this will now play out is that...
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actually, not the jack smith filing yet, but immunity, the question of immunity, in one of jack smith's cases. the supreme court is having to get involved in that question. they put it earlier in the week saying, don't give this to us, jessica. but this is another question that has not been tested yet. it has not, anthony. >> that's right, it has not been tested. it's appropriate for the supreme court to weigh in on this. i think, and you are the smart lawyer here. i'll be interested in your thoughts. >> tell us, i am not wrong in thinking that the supreme court will have to settle this question of whether the president is immune from prosecution? >> you're not wrong. anthony is wrong and thinking i'm a smart lawyer. it's an unresolved question. the issue is whether or not the president is immune for official acts committed while in office. the weight of the argument is that he is not. i think he loses this case at the supreme court. if he did something with in the official scope of his duties, then he ought to be immune, any president ought to be immune. then they wouldn't do it in fea
actually, not the jack smith filing yet, but immunity, the question of immunity, in one of jack smith's cases. the supreme court is having to get involved in that question. they put it earlier in the week saying, don't give this to us, jessica. but this is another question that has not been tested yet. it has not, anthony. >> that's right, it has not been tested. it's appropriate for the supreme court to weigh in on this. i think, and you are the smart lawyer here. i'll be interested in...
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eric garland and jack smith would say well mr. hamilton the guy has clearly says this is not enforceable and there might be other considerations. but the american people outside of washington, d.c., if we transport this room and we go to sioux falls or savannah, georgia or anywhere across the country and you tell the american people these are the charges we are bringing against the president of the united states what do you think? you will be shocked that on a bipartisan basis everybody sees through what they are doing. nobody sees this as legitimate prosecution. in washington, d.c. it is the case. oh gosh, the georgetown parties and everything else, everybody wants to talk about did you see this allegation, nuclear secrets. but, everybody knows that this is being done for political purposes, each of the indictments, especially the federal ones. we can talk about the georgia one. and in new york. but the reason why you have these principles and the reason why the department has outlined them in writing for every ausa and federal p
eric garland and jack smith would say well mr. hamilton the guy has clearly says this is not enforceable and there might be other considerations. but the american people outside of washington, d.c., if we transport this room and we go to sioux falls or savannah, georgia or anywhere across the country and you tell the american people these are the charges we are bringing against the president of the united states what do you think? you will be shocked that on a bipartisan basis everybody sees...
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what jack smith has charged he went well beyond the scope of his duties. this was not part of his duties to interfere with an election. so i think that it's a clever way of trying to reframe the issue. i don't think this the supreme court is going to fall for it. i think they will see this for what it is, allegations of acting outside the scope of his duties by committing crimes. >> and, emily, quickly, to barb's point, right, at the beginning of the filing from donald trump's legal team today, they actually say that special counsel jack smith framed the question incorrectly. for our viewers to understand, when the supreme court decides to take up a case, it takes up a case with a question, right. it's the idea that there is an issue or a question that is such paramount importance it has to be addressed by the supreme court. do you think, emily, that the supreme court is actually going to maybe consider which kind of question or how it's framed when it takes up the case? >> they will definitely think about what kind of question and how it is framed. and th
what jack smith has charged he went well beyond the scope of his duties. this was not part of his duties to interfere with an election. so i think that it's a clever way of trying to reframe the issue. i don't think this the supreme court is going to fall for it. i think they will see this for what it is, allegations of acting outside the scope of his duties by committing crimes. >> and, emily, quickly, to barb's point, right, at the beginning of the filing from donald trump's legal team...
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katie benner, let's talk about jack smith again. it's been reported he has added a new team member, someone who has worked with robert mueller. it is not andrew weissmann. who is it? what do you know? >> this is unfortunately something that i was not prepared to talk about but -- our friend andrew weissmann. [laughter] so, i'm sorry, then stephanie. but if you would like to pass the question on to one of our other panelists, that would be fine. >> well, let's move on. because there's another topic that i find -- i'm not gonna say more exciting than andrew weissmann. but certainly, and you're saying, george santos. mr. santos -- former congressman santos was off cameo for a few hours today, and in court. his lawyers and federal prosecutors seemed to be trying to work out a plea deal. this guy is facing all sorts of counts. what could be the heart of the issue? >> the heart of the issue is fraud, whether or not he defrauded the government in several different ways. lying about whether or not -- you know, stealing from his own campaign
katie benner, let's talk about jack smith again. it's been reported he has added a new team member, someone who has worked with robert mueller. it is not andrew weissmann. who is it? what do you know? >> this is unfortunately something that i was not prepared to talk about but -- our friend andrew weissmann. [laughter] so, i'm sorry, then stephanie. but if you would like to pass the question on to one of our other panelists, that would be fine. >> well, let's move on. because...
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the supreme court did not go jack smith's way.is decision or the pending decision on whether or not the former president trump was immune from prosecution in the january sixth case. they're not going to do that. they're going to let it go to the appeals court. what is this impact on the election? richard first and then leo. >> listen, this is not a surprise to me. the supreme court is very good of trying to keep itself out of if politics or actively in the politics. the fact that they're letting this go the regular route, normal order, seems to make sense. the beginning of this segment, we showed the approval numbers of various presidents. let's talk a jaunt down history. barack obama was almost in the same point that joe biden was at the end of his first term. many of the same arguments that leo was making were being made about barack obama and he was able to win. it's not necessarily because of economic indicators. it's because elections are about contrast. one person versus another. voters will make a decision based on that and
the supreme court did not go jack smith's way.is decision or the pending decision on whether or not the former president trump was immune from prosecution in the january sixth case. they're not going to do that. they're going to let it go to the appeals court. what is this impact on the election? richard first and then leo. >> listen, this is not a surprise to me. the supreme court is very good of trying to keep itself out of if politics or actively in the politics. the fact that they're...
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and that was the point of jack smith's petition. that eventually, the supreme court's going to have to decide if a former president or a president can be immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken while in office, which is exactly what donald trump is asserting. so i think i frankly think this is a really strong case that jack smith has put forward and i think that we'll get, it's already getting close supreme court attention and we will probably know when it's just a matter of weeks whether they grant this petition. >> should the former president you think at all be worried about this? >> i think so. for the number of reasons that we've sort of talked about here. again, a word on timing. that's sort of the key point here. were this process to go through the normal process, were the case to go through the normal process, first be appealed in a court of appeals. then the losing party would have the appeal to appeal that to the full court of appeals then to the supreme court. that could have been months if not frankly years of
and that was the point of jack smith's petition. that eventually, the supreme court's going to have to decide if a former president or a president can be immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken while in office, which is exactly what donald trump is asserting. so i think i frankly think this is a really strong case that jack smith has put forward and i think that we'll get, it's already getting close supreme court attention and we will probably know when it's just a matter of weeks...
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the indictment said jack smith. somebody at the justice department would have to take over those prosecutions. the biden justice department will no longer be able to say, it is not really us, it is him. whatever separation one gets from having a special counsel, they would lose that. >> i agree. >> that seems like a good place to wrap up. on behalf of the federal society i want to thank everybody for joining us today. -- the federalist society, i want to thank everybody for joining us today. there will be plenty more updates in 2024 so we encourage you to keep an eye on our website and emails. we welcome listener feedback at info at fed-soc.org. have a great holiday season area merry christmas and happy new year. we are >> he spends 2024 coverage continues. watch live on the c-span net work for the upcoming presidential election, along with candidate speeches and results, beginning with the iowa caucus on january 15, and the new hampshire primaryn january 23. campaign 2024 on c-span, your unfiered view of politics.
the indictment said jack smith. somebody at the justice department would have to take over those prosecutions. the biden justice department will no longer be able to say, it is not really us, it is him. whatever separation one gets from having a special counsel, they would lose that. >> i agree. >> that seems like a good place to wrap up. on behalf of the federal society i want to thank everybody for joining us today. -- the federalist society, i want to thank everybody for joining...
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we saw a sign of urgency from special counsel jack smith just this morning. smith asked the supreme court to decide whether trump is immune from prosecution for crimes committed while in office. and just hours later, the court said it would consider whether to hear the case on an expedited basis. but here's the thing. there's no certainty he will be held accountable for the election. there's no certainty that the courts will stop this wannabe dictator, which is why this message is so important here. and the message needs to be that we are not talking about a strong leader here, but a week one. joining me now is former republican congresswoman liz cheney. she's the author of the new book oath and honor. it's such a pleasure to be here today -- i want to thank you for speaking out as much as you have. it's not easy to go against the grain of your party. >> thank you for having me, i appreciate it. and these issues really are ones, as we've talked about, that span across party lines. >> i want to start kind of where i ended there, which is about dictators. you h
we saw a sign of urgency from special counsel jack smith just this morning. smith asked the supreme court to decide whether trump is immune from prosecution for crimes committed while in office. and just hours later, the court said it would consider whether to hear the case on an expedited basis. but here's the thing. there's no certainty he will be held accountable for the election. there's no certainty that the courts will stop this wannabe dictator, which is why this message is so important...