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office, jack smith's entire office is illegal and outside the constitution. enacting jack smith's office and it violates the appointments clause and it's bigger than ever nominated and senate hasn't confirmed him and take atrium and biden is all the words jack smith. is it okay for justice department, any justice department to go ahead and, ag, go ahead and appoint a special council to investigate a mitt cal opponent? >> right, greated a me stumbled upon a long forgetten document and outlines some provisions for this type of stuff. and guardrails and one cannot simply just appoint a private citizen and give them all the powers of federal law enforcement and say go happy hunting and, no, there's appointments clause and a process that needs to be played out. you know, general meiss lays las that out. elizabeth: thank you, good to see you. >> you too. elizabeth: dr. janette nesheiwat joining and yous more than 200 troops and veterans demanding biden's pentagon leadership be fired. why? because of the covid vaccine man dade. we're going to -- mandate and we're go
office, jack smith's entire office is illegal and outside the constitution. enacting jack smith's office and it violates the appointments clause and it's bigger than ever nominated and senate hasn't confirmed him and take atrium and biden is all the words jack smith. is it okay for justice department, any justice department to go ahead and, ag, go ahead and appoint a special council to investigate a mitt cal opponent? >> right, greated a me stumbled upon a long forgetten document and...
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first off, take on jack smith. mueller moment. >> i did. so, maria, you know, we expect foreign adversaries like china to interfere in our elections, but what we don't expect and what we should never tolerate is for our own government, for our own agencies and entities within our republic to interfere in elections, and that's exactly what is happening on a number of fronts. you mentioned the intelligence community and that analyst, and we've talked about that a great deal about how the politicization has come into play. but here -- leaning into 2024 there's a couple of things that are happening. one is an effort to keep donald trump off of the ballot. you mentioned what's taking place in colorado and maine and blue states and officials there. but then there's also the effort to keep donald trump off the campaign trail, and that's what jack smith is doing. and if what i think is just a nakedly political and partisan prosecution. the department of justice expressly says that a prosecutor may never take actions thing
first off, take on jack smith. mueller moment. >> i did. so, maria, you know, we expect foreign adversaries like china to interfere in our elections, but what we don't expect and what we should never tolerate is for our own government, for our own agencies and entities within our republic to interfere in elections, and that's exactly what is happening on a number of fronts. you mentioned the intelligence community and that analyst, and we've talked about that a great deal about how the...
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talked about jack smith.the supreme court is going to rule on immunity case, but also there's china. china, you say, did meddle in the 2020 election and will do it in 2024. >> yeah, they very clearly did. the intelligence community has assessed that and said that they will intensify. and one of the concerns that we have is they'll do the same things they did before. but, maria, there's been a 1,000% increase in the number of chinese national coming across our border. 5,000 were caught just in the month of november. 85% of those are single men of military age. so the real question there is what percentage of those are here on pla or frc orders -- prc orders to intensify efforts to interfere in the election? maria: that's right. good point. >> yeah. with respect to what's happening with colorado, look, jack smith who's the most aggressive prosecutor as i talked about, even he couldn't bring charges for insurrection against donald trump. so is when a federal grand jury pass on it but the state of colorado or mai
talked about jack smith.the supreme court is going to rule on immunity case, but also there's china. china, you say, did meddle in the 2020 election and will do it in 2024. >> yeah, they very clearly did. the intelligence community has assessed that and said that they will intensify. and one of the concerns that we have is they'll do the same things they did before. but, maria, there's been a 1,000% increase in the number of chinese national coming across our border. 5,000 were caught...
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[laughter] >>> breaking news tonight, someone sent special prosecutor jack smith a dangerous gift on christmas day. nbc news is reporting special counsel jack smith who is overseeing the prosecution of former president donald trump in two federal cases was the target of an attempted swatting at his maryland residence on christmas day, according to two law enforcement sources, someone called 9-1-1 on december 25th, reporting that he had shot his wife at the address where smith lives. montgomery county police dispatched units towards the home but were called off when the deputy u.s. marshals protecting smith and his family told police that it was a false alarm, that everyone inside the home was safe. no arrests have been made in connection with the incident. earlier today, nbc news reported that federal judge tanya chutkan who was presiding over the now paused case of the united states of america versus donald j trump in which jack smith is accusing donald j trump of crimes leading up to and on january 6th, was also the victim of a similar swatting incident. today in a campaign speech
[laughter] >>> breaking news tonight, someone sent special prosecutor jack smith a dangerous gift on christmas day. nbc news is reporting special counsel jack smith who is overseeing the prosecution of former president donald trump in two federal cases was the target of an attempted swatting at his maryland residence on christmas day, according to two law enforcement sources, someone called 9-1-1 on december 25th, reporting that he had shot his wife at the address where smith lives....
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jack smith paints a picture. one if that president who commits a crime in the future mobs the capital to kill members of congress so tt the impeachment vote ends up differently. he lays out the scenario in his latest appeals court filing. it seems intuive to me that he would make that. these arall theoretical at this point theoretical and the distant future. he imaking that concept. if you have presidential immunity, does that ensure future presidents to do what they want? host: before we leave the january 6 prosetion, remind the viewers what we are taing about and are there one or two that your keeping an eye on? guest: three yearsark for january 6 is on saturday. it would have been impossible. 1200 criminal cases in three years time into one courthouse in america. they do not see that tonnage of cases. they have secured guilty pleas in roughly 700. they have gone to trial against dozens of defeants. everyone whoas gone trial by jury has been convicted. note that last charge. obstruction an official proceeding i
jack smith paints a picture. one if that president who commits a crime in the future mobs the capital to kill members of congress so tt the impeachment vote ends up differently. he lays out the scenario in his latest appeals court filing. it seems intuive to me that he would make that. these arall theoretical at this point theoretical and the distant future. he imaking that concept. if you have presidential immunity, does that ensure future presidents to do what they want? host: before we leave...
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i think there's a good chance jack smith tries one of his cases. but let's keep an eye on the manhattan da's case. the forgotten hush money case, if the case on federal election subversion moves out, there's going to be a gap in the calendar. the da has made clear he's said on the record, i'm ready to go. that might not be ideal for those hoping to hang a conviction on donald trump, but that one maybe the first one tried. >> donald trump is watching and he hopes you're right. when all is said and done, a 7-year-old case based on a porn payoff is the only thing for which he's tried before the election. i wouldn't even oppose it. put us on trial for that. i appreciate it. >>> now for more on trump and scotus, i want to turn to lauren lessig. they will review the decision of removing trump from that ballot with oral arguments scheduled for february 8th. here's what the professor recently wrote about trump and the colorado challenge. quote, donald trump is an astou astoundingly dangerous candidate. he's a pathological liar with clear authoritarian inst
i think there's a good chance jack smith tries one of his cases. but let's keep an eye on the manhattan da's case. the forgotten hush money case, if the case on federal election subversion moves out, there's going to be a gap in the calendar. the da has made clear he's said on the record, i'm ready to go. that might not be ideal for those hoping to hang a conviction on donald trump, but that one maybe the first one tried. >> donald trump is watching and he hopes you're right. when all is...
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jack smith would have brought it. i think he would be particularly seen as being political if he did that in light of colorado case but that's another arrow in his quiver if he wants to shoot it. >> a little side note the president is entitled to believe donald trump committed insurrection. the special counsel apparently works for him did not charge president trump for insurrection and, in fact, the senate acquitted in the second impeachment. >> before remove onto the next topic we will be reserving significant time for questions and answers. if you would like to ask a question, type it into the q&a box which is at the bottom of the zoom panel. let's turn to the the second topic. the court can't get out of it no matter how much they try. a case called fisher which perhaps essential charge. also against president trump and this is a question whether the activities on january 6th, whether you think they were right or wrong justify or not, do they rise to the level of obstruction of proceeding of congress. what do you ma
jack smith would have brought it. i think he would be particularly seen as being political if he did that in light of colorado case but that's another arrow in his quiver if he wants to shoot it. >> a little side note the president is entitled to believe donald trump committed insurrection. the special counsel apparently works for him did not charge president trump for insurrection and, in fact, the senate acquitted in the second impeachment. >> before remove onto the next topic we...
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and you heard jack smith attorney say, no, no, no, that's a terrible idea, let's not open that can of. like, you guys should affirm, and on and let's get on with the trial. if he's got appealed, he makes them after judgment, just like everyone else. let's not do all this stuff before trial. >> exactly. there's even an argument that someone made that they don't have jurisdiction to do it, and all three of them were intrigued without argument, but it also didn't seem to get over the top. so again, we'll learn the answer to the question quickly. they will decid it within a week or so, i think. but there are scenarios where if she decides, after it's sent back down, when she decides what the result should be, he may have another run at some kind of delay, and of course that's always primary, second of course being the lousy legal argument he is propounding. >> how do you think the lawyers did today? just in terms of their lawyering. >> i thought sauer, he's said what he needed to do but i think he chose a very bad line. you showed him at his worse just then. a judge asked to a yes or no o
and you heard jack smith attorney say, no, no, no, that's a terrible idea, let's not open that can of. like, you guys should affirm, and on and let's get on with the trial. if he's got appealed, he makes them after judgment, just like everyone else. let's not do all this stuff before trial. >> exactly. there's even an argument that someone made that they don't have jurisdiction to do it, and all three of them were intrigued without argument, but it also didn't seem to get over the top. so...
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and obviously it's not his hypo-, it's jack smith's hypo-. on it today. >> yeah, they definitely but the bullet on it. and it is an unbelievable hypothetical that they refused to reject. and they could've found a way to reject it. but they have very little to argue here. and so they are clinging to this. i've got to tell you, i think a lot of people are numb. this is a guy who said he's going to terminate the constitution. he is going to terminate the constitution. he's going to execute people that are hiding in the military that don't do what he says. he's going to shut down news outlets. he's going to prosecute journalists. he is going to seek retribution on everyone. and now, we find out that he truly believes, through his lawyers, that he can commit any crime as long as he has 35 senators in congress that will back him up. >> it's so perfect, tim, in the polarized times we are in. the dictatorship of 35 votes. right? it's the perfect vision of this moment. like, yeah. if you can hold 35 votes, which you can do for anything, you can do wha
and obviously it's not his hypo-, it's jack smith's hypo-. on it today. >> yeah, they definitely but the bullet on it. and it is an unbelievable hypothetical that they refused to reject. and they could've found a way to reject it. but they have very little to argue here. and so they are clinging to this. i've got to tell you, i think a lot of people are numb. this is a guy who said he's going to terminate the constitution. he is going to terminate the constitution. he's going to execute...
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trump if elected would fire special counsel jack smith.what want wanted to convey to us in the interview he feels that efforts to gag him are inappropriate, they make it there can be a full offensive attack on him, but he does not have the ability to to defend himself, the point to reiterate to us, he offered nancy pelosi 10,000 troops on january 6, she turned him down, he thinks that jack smith does not want him to be able to make that statement out. he was making that point to me hoping we would print it, we did. larry: you should have she said t jack smith is losing momentum. what do you make of that? >> absolutely he thinks that reason why jack smith is engaging in tact tick -- tactics thatp he believes are unethical, it failing. i think speak for a lot i feel that country changed that day that the biden government was rifling through m melania trump's underwear drawer looking for secrets. larry: it seemed to have helped his campaign, alex, trump as run in last year, a very good issues campaign. taxes, deregulation, drill baby drill an
trump if elected would fire special counsel jack smith.what want wanted to convey to us in the interview he feels that efforts to gag him are inappropriate, they make it there can be a full offensive attack on him, but he does not have the ability to to defend himself, the point to reiterate to us, he offered nancy pelosi 10,000 troops on january 6, she turned him down, he thinks that jack smith does not want him to be able to make that statement out. he was making that point to me hoping we...
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but jack smith, special counsel jack smith and the lawyers for the government are saying this is an unprecedented act that was taken by president trump, trying to overturn the 2020 election, so we will, of course, continue to cover this and continue to watch this closely. another historic day here. jose? >> yamiche alcindor in washington, thank you. catherine, what do you make of what you heard in court today? >> well, it was shocking to have attorneys, you always want to represent your client and be vigorous about it, but when i believe it was judge pan, as you reporter said, ask, well, can the president sell pardons, can a president direct navy s.e.a.l. team six to assassinate a political rival, and basically donald trump's lawyers argument was unless he has been impeached and convicted by the senate, he can't be prosecuted. eventually there was a lot of torturous pulling of teeth, the trump lawyers conceded that there are some circumstances where a president can be prosecuted. but it was actually surprising that, to me that was a no brainer, of course you say of course he can be prosecuted if
but jack smith, special counsel jack smith and the lawyers for the government are saying this is an unprecedented act that was taken by president trump, trying to overturn the 2020 election, so we will, of course, continue to cover this and continue to watch this closely. another historic day here. jose? >> yamiche alcindor in washington, thank you. catherine, what do you make of what you heard in court today? >> well, it was shocking to have attorneys, you always want to represent...
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that's kind of a signal that jack smith's office is asking the d.c. circuit to say, hey, look, i want this to go back and go back quickly because in addition to the substance here, as we know, donald trump doesn't ever want this to go at all. he doesn't want this to happen at all, because the end game is to delay this, hopefully not have a trial at all, and then hopefully get elected and then make the case go away and try to pardon himself, et cetera. i think there's also this question, if you look at the brief, about speed and get it to go quicker. i think the d.c. circuit is going to do that. i agree that the decision is probably written already. >> there was a really important line, every oral argument ends essentially with a judge asking what do you want us to do? what your prayer for relief. trump's attorney says either allow immunity or allow us the time to appeal higher. in other words, chief justice roberts, get your pen ready. >> we know that's exactly what the trump legal team has wanted. then it becomes the question of how quickly do they m
that's kind of a signal that jack smith's office is asking the d.c. circuit to say, hey, look, i want this to go back and go back quickly because in addition to the substance here, as we know, donald trump doesn't ever want this to go at all. he doesn't want this to happen at all, because the end game is to delay this, hopefully not have a trial at all, and then hopefully get elected and then make the case go away and try to pardon himself, et cetera. i think there's also this question, if you...
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jack smith paints a picture.ne if that president who commits a crime in the future mobs the capital to kill members of congress so that the impeachment vote ends up differently. he lays out the scenario in his latest appeals court filing. it seems intuitive to me that he would makehat. these arall theoretical at this point theoretical d the distant future. he imaking that concept. if you have presidential immunity, does that ensure future presidents to do what they want? host: before we leave the january 6 prosecution, remind the viewers what we are talking about and are there one or two that your keeping an eye on? guest: three years mark for january 6 is on turday. it would have been impossible. 1200 criminal cases in three years time into one courthouse in america. they do not see that tonnage of cases. they have secured guilty pleas in roughly 700. they have gone to trial against dozens of defendants. everyone who has gone trial by jury has been convicted. note that last charge. obstruction an official procee
jack smith paints a picture.ne if that president who commits a crime in the future mobs the capital to kill members of congress so that the impeachment vote ends up differently. he lays out the scenario in his latest appeals court filing. it seems intuitive to me that he would makehat. these arall theoretical at this point theoretical d the distant future. he imaking that concept. if you have presidential immunity, does that ensure future presidents to do what they want? host: before we leave...
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what else does jack smith, what more does jack smith need to learn about that day? >> i would say based on the reporting, nothing. what he needs is a trial date that sticks. this is a very strong case. having said that, obviously you have to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt unanimous ri, in order to have a conviction. so i don't want to say this is what's going to happen, but in terms of the strength of the case, that's when i can bring any experience, this is a strong case, seeing the dan scavino reporting, assuming that's accurate, that's another nail, but there are many many nails that he has. >> getting a trial is now the hurdle. the supreme court says it's going to hear the case about presidential immunity, right, is that the one? >> they have the disqualification one. the one thing we know for sure. >> the supreme court is hearing about colorado and maine. >> they have taken the disquafication case. that is going to be heard on february 8th. that for the supreme court is lightning spee they have to get used to law time frames. the immunity argument is
what else does jack smith, what more does jack smith need to learn about that day? >> i would say based on the reporting, nothing. what he needs is a trial date that sticks. this is a very strong case. having said that, obviously you have to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt unanimous ri, in order to have a conviction. so i don't want to say this is what's going to happen, but in terms of the strength of the case, that's when i can bring any experience, this is a strong case,...
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they're willing to take a back seat to jack smith's case. but if this delay goes on the -- the one thing i will say is, yeah, that case will go first. the manhattan case, which was brought first, will actually be tried first. because the d.c. case, which, obviously, is a more important, a bigger case. but there may be enough time to do both. >> you know, katie, there -- and i will credit nicole wallace with banging this drum loudly, asking the question, why did the justice department begin this investigation with more alacrity as far as pursuing donald trump, in terms of accountability and, those in his inner circle? you have reporting about the notes of caution that were being sounded inside the justice department long after january 6th in terms of pursuing trump and the way in which there was concern about the department being seen as partisan. certainly, trump aided in that by calling a lot of these investigations which hunts. but can you talk about how that caution, immediately after january six, inside the department of justice, may hav
they're willing to take a back seat to jack smith's case. but if this delay goes on the -- the one thing i will say is, yeah, that case will go first. the manhattan case, which was brought first, will actually be tried first. because the d.c. case, which, obviously, is a more important, a bigger case. but there may be enough time to do both. >> you know, katie, there -- and i will credit nicole wallace with banging this drum loudly, asking the question, why did the justice department...
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he thinks jack smith doesn't want him to make that point publicly.portunity, but suddenly making that point to me hoping we would print it and we did. larry: you did and indeed as you should have. he is saying jack smith is losing momentum, quote, unquote. what did you make of that? >> yeah, absolutely he thinks that the reason why smith is engaging in tactics he believes are unethical because the political battle is failing. he is thinks he getting more popular as political persecutions goes on, the weaponization as he puts it. this is undeniably true. i speak for a lot of americans, i feel like a lot of the entire country changed that day the biden government was rifling through melania trump's underwear drawer looking for state secrets. it was a true absurdity in any other era,. larry: i will get to john carney in a minute but it seems to help his campaign. i would argue twofold, number one, trump has run in the last year a very good issues campaign, taxes, deregulation, drill, baby, drill, certainly the border, certainly being a strong pro-americ
he thinks jack smith doesn't want him to make that point publicly.portunity, but suddenly making that point to me hoping we would print it and we did. larry: you did and indeed as you should have. he is saying jack smith is losing momentum, quote, unquote. what did you make of that? >> yeah, absolutely he thinks that the reason why smith is engaging in tactics he believes are unethical because the political battle is failing. he is thinks he getting more popular as political persecutions...
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>> as jack smith said in his papers to the d.c. circuit on this issue, he pointed out that exact quote saying that donald trump told the senate that he could be in fact prosecuted after he left office, and now that he is out of office, he says, no, i can't be if i have been acquitted. if i've been charged and acquitted by the senate, then there's a get out of jail free card that he cannot be prosecuted. he pounlts out that inconsistency. and this really relies on what is call the impeachment judgment clause which says that -- >> let's get into it, andrew. >> so the clause says if you have been impeached and you have been convicted, then you are subject afterwards to being criminally prosecuted. meaning just because you've been cleared from office doesn't mean that you can't face criminal prosecution. donald trump says that has a negative implication. if you've been acquitted by the senate, then you cannot be. and that is really going to be a bit of a battle ground in the d.c. circuit. i think jack smith has a much better argument h
>> as jack smith said in his papers to the d.c. circuit on this issue, he pointed out that exact quote saying that donald trump told the senate that he could be in fact prosecuted after he left office, and now that he is out of office, he says, no, i can't be if i have been acquitted. if i've been charged and acquitted by the senate, then there's a get out of jail free card that he cannot be prosecuted. he pounlts out that inconsistency. and this really relies on what is call the...
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supreme court denied special counsel jack smith's request to leap track the appellate progress to get to the court date in march. the issue could come back to the u.s. supreme court, though. the criminal trial before the district court is on hold until this whole thing is cleared up. i told you this is a critical day about immunity for a former president of the united states. ahead of today's proceedings, donald trump posted, of course i was entitled as president of the united states and commander-in-chief to immunity. i wasn't campaigning. the election was long over. i was looking for voter fraud and finding it, which is my obligation to do and otherwise running our country. that was his post. here is constitutional attorney jonathan turley. >> i think that everyone has gotten the message that time is of the essence. when the special counsel went to the supreme court, he said it's absolutely urgent that we try president trump on march or certainly before the election. the court clearly didn't share that sense of urgency. the court will address it once it comes up. i also think that t
supreme court denied special counsel jack smith's request to leap track the appellate progress to get to the court date in march. the issue could come back to the u.s. supreme court, though. the criminal trial before the district court is on hold until this whole thing is cleared up. i told you this is a critical day about immunity for a former president of the united states. ahead of today's proceedings, donald trump posted, of course i was entitled as president of the united states and...
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it's i'm afraid of jack smith. jury of my peers and i'm afraid this thing can start on time and get finished on time and let me go send my hack lawyers to talk about the assassinations and universal kingly powers to muck it up and delay it and it never happened. by the way, bill, i'm sorry i don't have any old clips of you tonight. you get your time in the news barrel, as they say, but i mentioned james earlier that you can't watch and follow everything and we have another sampling of how the iowa results came in last night. take a look. >> i think maga is latin for donald trump. >> he can say anything and that would be the following. those 50% would just fall right in line. >> there is an authoritarian movement inside republican politics that isn't being bamboozled by trump and they're pushing trump to get more and more extreme. >> it was in iowa that he had the famous quote they would support me even if i shot someone on fifth avenue. this is donald trump's party. >> james, is it being overstated already? >> no.
it's i'm afraid of jack smith. jury of my peers and i'm afraid this thing can start on time and get finished on time and let me go send my hack lawyers to talk about the assassinations and universal kingly powers to muck it up and delay it and it never happened. by the way, bill, i'm sorry i don't have any old clips of you tonight. you get your time in the news barrel, as they say, but i mentioned james earlier that you can't watch and follow everything and we have another sampling of how the...
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this was a decision that was made independently by special counsel jack smith.s own prosecutorial discretion. >> and the grand jury. >> right, to determine whether or not to bring charges in this case. i was at doj at the time when the attorney general made this decision. he put distance between himself as a member of joe biden's cabinet and this decision to reassure the american people that whatever decision was appropriate, it was indisputably determined by facts and the law. the bottom line here is if donald trump wants to blame anybody, he needs to look in the mirror. he was the one who ignored the facts, who worked around the law, and now he's on the cusp of criminal accountability. >> you know what, one way to avoid being prosecuted, don't commit crimes. a good way to stay out of jail. thank you very much. >>> up next, have you been enjoying the biden economy with its rising wages, low unemployment, and plummeting inflation? well, somebody wants all that goodness to end. lickety split. i'm not going to tell you who it is, but his initials are donald trump.
this was a decision that was made independently by special counsel jack smith.s own prosecutorial discretion. >> and the grand jury. >> right, to determine whether or not to bring charges in this case. i was at doj at the time when the attorney general made this decision. he put distance between himself as a member of joe biden's cabinet and this decision to reassure the american people that whatever decision was appropriate, it was indisputably determined by facts and the law. the...
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and jack smith filed this anyway. so donald trump is saying he should be held in contempt for having filed this motion, when there is a hold on everything. that is ludicrous. generally speaking, there is no requirement because there is a stay in place for donald trump and his lawyers to do anything. they don't have to respond to this motion at this time. they don't have to review the discovery and evidence that the special counsel's office is providing. there is no requirement for them to do anything. and typically, defense attorneys like what the arguments are. they like to get discovery. these are things they want to have. so, there is no harm to them and there, certainly no contempt, because jack smith said to the court, even though there is this stay, i'm going to continue to meet with headlines anyway. at no point of the church say don't do that. he was transparent about it. so, there's no contempt here. it's a completely focus claim by his defense. >> at least ump's defense attorneys are sticking with the progra
and jack smith filed this anyway. so donald trump is saying he should be held in contempt for having filed this motion, when there is a hold on everything. that is ludicrous. generally speaking, there is no requirement because there is a stay in place for donald trump and his lawyers to do anything. they don't have to respond to this motion at this time. they don't have to review the discovery and evidence that the special counsel's office is providing. there is no requirement for them to do...
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they want the judge to enforce this and hold these jack smith attorneys in contempt of court, to tellto stop filing any motions. we'll have to see exactly what the judge does, but whether she grants this or not, what another interesting implication here is the other judge and the other case in florida, aileen cannon, has been much more hostile to jack smith than judge chutkan in d.c. she's going to read this motion as well, so it may have implications for that case down in florida. >> so, keep us honest, michael, can you file motions, continue to file motions as jack smith has done when judge tanya chutkan has essentially put this case on hold until a decision from the d.c. circuit? >> yes, i think so. i think what smith is doing is continuing his investigation, marshaling his evidence, putting it forward into the court docket so that it is available should donald trump lose his appeal in the case goes to trial. what they are not asking trump do is respond to any of this, so it is really sort of a sand box in a sense, they're putting the stuff in there and when the kids are allowed to
they want the judge to enforce this and hold these jack smith attorneys in contempt of court, to tellto stop filing any motions. we'll have to see exactly what the judge does, but whether she grants this or not, what another interesting implication here is the other judge and the other case in florida, aileen cannon, has been much more hostile to jack smith than judge chutkan in d.c. she's going to read this motion as well, so it may have implications for that case down in florida. >> so,...
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the jack smith's coup case is the biggy.ny conviction of donald trump before the election. unless it doesn't. and that's why the wrangling now over this case, and it is hard for me to say this, i'm going to tell you best we understand this. best with the evidence we have. this case is probably the most significant. that means it is the one the doj and a lot of other law enforcement entities see as the most important. it also means it is the one the trumpawyers are fighting the really hardest to delay. if they can delay this, they might clear t brush for most of this new election year that we're entering. here's what the prosecutors say. donald trump's claim to protect the institution. presidency, in order to do that, he must be cloaked with absolute immunity from criminal prosecution is, quote, wrong. trump is arguing that this sort of special immunity would continue well past the presidency, and that anything he allegedlyid relating to january 6th were part of his official acts. smith says the constitutional text, history a
the jack smith's coup case is the biggy.ny conviction of donald trump before the election. unless it doesn't. and that's why the wrangling now over this case, and it is hard for me to say this, i'm going to tell you best we understand this. best with the evidence we have. this case is probably the most significant. that means it is the one the doj and a lot of other law enforcement entities see as the most important. it also means it is the one the trumpawyers are fighting the really hardest to...
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jack smith has made this argument powerfully before the court of appeals. i heard harry say earlier that he was absolutely confident that this argument is a loser, and i want to adopt his view here. it's absolutely a stone cold loser. >> on that absolute confidence of joyce fans and harry litman i want to thank you both very much for starting our conversations tonight. very much appreciated. coming up, tonight donald trump's lawyers went to court in maine to try to get his name on the presidential ballot there after the secretary of state relied on the 14th amendment to bar donald trump from the ballot in maine. harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next. but i didn't wait. they told their doctors. and found out they had... atrial fibrillation. a condition which makes it about five times more likely to have a stroke. if you have one or more of these symptoms irregular heartbeat, heart racing, chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue or lightheadedness, contact your doctor. this is no time to wait. every day, more dog people are deciding it's time fo
jack smith has made this argument powerfully before the court of appeals. i heard harry say earlier that he was absolutely confident that this argument is a loser, and i want to adopt his view here. it's absolutely a stone cold loser. >> on that absolute confidence of joyce fans and harry litman i want to thank you both very much for starting our conversations tonight. very much appreciated. coming up, tonight donald trump's lawyers went to court in maine to try to get his name on the...
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it was that important of a case, seated a few feet away from jack smith.turn to our expert,less will -- leslie caldwell and a former trump white house lawyer jim schultz, welcome to both of you. leslie, first and foremost, have you ever heard a claim like that in a serious court proceeding about the president's powers, and how do you assess it legally? >> i think you were spot on in all the comments you made is it's unprecedented to make that kind of an argument, to hear that kind of argument, and i also think the judges were extraordinarily skeptical of the correctness of that argument, and so i think it's stunning, it's also telling about how trump would intend to run a second administration. it's consistent with everything he's been saying all along about how he would run the show, and i think, you know, it's incumbent on people to actually listen to what he's saying and think he means it. >> right. he says it, his lawyers say it on his behalf, he means it. jim, i have two questions for you off top. first, do you think there's any validity to what this
it was that important of a case, seated a few feet away from jack smith.turn to our expert,less will -- leslie caldwell and a former trump white house lawyer jim schultz, welcome to both of you. leslie, first and foremost, have you ever heard a claim like that in a serious court proceeding about the president's powers, and how do you assess it legally? >> i think you were spot on in all the comments you made is it's unprecedented to make that kind of an argument, to hear that kind of...
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and now, this prosecution by jack smith is the second it ration. make your case, government. >> it's the impeachment clause, your honor. it's specific. if you have been impeached and convicted, then you can be tried criminally. it's not a wooden distinction. you have political judgment across the whole spectrum of american life. what you have without that kind of protection is exactly president biden indicting president trump, the very parade we're worried about. you need that decision by congress as a whole, for a grave action of prosecuting a former i high official. >> what is your response? we have heard from mitch mcconnell after the impeachment, the second impeachment, he was expecting there to be a criminal backstop. here, trump's lawyers say anything different. what's your statement? >> your honor, i have my pocket constitution right here with me. and it does not say what my distinguished friend says it does. it says a party convicted in an impeachment trial should nevertheless be prosecuted. not only if. as is so often the case -- and it sa
and now, this prosecution by jack smith is the second it ration. make your case, government. >> it's the impeachment clause, your honor. it's specific. if you have been impeached and convicted, then you can be tried criminally. it's not a wooden distinction. you have political judgment across the whole spectrum of american life. what you have without that kind of protection is exactly president biden indicting president trump, the very parade we're worried about. you need that decision by...
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the exchange prompted james pierce, the attorney representing special counsel jack smith to say what kind of world are we living in if that holds true. the former president losing his case would promote bedlam in the country. what he would not do is answer the question about any violence that might come with it. >> you just used the word "be "bedlam." would you tell your supporters now, no matter what, no violence? >> in a moment, we will talk about where this goes next and how it could shape not just the presidential race but the power of the presidency for years to come. >> reporter: president trump traveled to washington tuesday to watch arguments in a federal appeals court hearing over whether he should be shielded from criminal prosecution. >> i appeal that as a president you have to have immunity. >> trump was not required to be in attendance but was in court to watch the panel express skepticism of the legal claims. >> can a president order seal team six to assassinate a political rival? that's an official act. >> he would have to be and would speedily be impeached and convict
the exchange prompted james pierce, the attorney representing special counsel jack smith to say what kind of world are we living in if that holds true. the former president losing his case would promote bedlam in the country. what he would not do is answer the question about any violence that might come with it. >> you just used the word "be "bedlam." would you tell your supporters now, no matter what, no violence? >> in a moment, we will talk about where this goes...
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the terrorism side will get to minutes to argue their case and then jack smith's side, not jack smithimself and doj and those time limits go out the window pretty quickly and it will sound a lot like a law school classroom, a q&a on the law of the matter. >> relatively quick though as far as these things go and a lot of what will be argued is in briefings and papers that the judges will have to look at the next few days. when i say the next few days will be the timing which is most important of this. >> jack smith will probably win this, but how much time will it take to win this? in ordinary course let's assume donald trump loses tomorrow he'll exhaust all his appeals. he can ask the entire circuit court enb paranc and then can if to the supreme court. in ordinary dhoors would take us well foot summer. we know jack smith is not willing to wait that long. one thing he's asked to do is five days after you make your decision send it back down to the trial court. we need to get the trial proceedings back on track. really important decision. not only will the court of appeals rule for or
the terrorism side will get to minutes to argue their case and then jack smith's side, not jack smithimself and doj and those time limits go out the window pretty quickly and it will sound a lot like a law school classroom, a q&a on the law of the matter. >> relatively quick though as far as these things go and a lot of what will be argued is in briefings and papers that the judges will have to look at the next few days. when i say the next few days will be the timing which is most...
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reporting from abc news this weekend veal new details that special counsel jack smith's team have uncovered about trum refusal to help stop the attack, as he sat watching tv inside the white house. sources said trump's former deputy chief of staff dan scavino told smith's inveigators as the violence began to escalate that day, trump was just n interested in doing more to stop it. sources also said former trump aide nick loona told federal investigators when trump was informed that vice president mike pence had to be rushed to a secure location, trump onde so at? also, sources said after unsuccessfullyryin for up to 20 minutes to persuade trump to release some sort of calming statement, scavino and others walked out of the dining room leaving trump alone. that is when, according to sources, trump posted a message on his twitter account sing that pence, quote, didn't have thege to do what should have been done. unquote. more than half anour after trump was first pressed to take some sort of action, trump finally let scavino post a
reporting from abc news this weekend veal new details that special counsel jack smith's team have uncovered about trum refusal to help stop the attack, as he sat watching tv inside the white house. sources said trump's former deputy chief of staff dan scavino told smith's inveigators as the violence began to escalate that day, trump was just n interested in doing more to stop it. sources also said former trump aide nick loona told federal investigators when trump was informed that vice...
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it presupposes jack smith wins right now and donald trump appeals it to the supreme court.e precedent that they might rely on john this court though has also not exactly had a big fealty to precedent in the past. why do you think that the precedence of nixon and watergate and the tapes and immunity is going to hold when say roe v. wade's precedent did not hold? >> the d.c. circuit, which has this case, i think has an easy question. total immunity is absurd. for reasons that some of your prior guests have said. there's crazy examples but that would give the president license to do anything he wanted. have, tell the fbi director to plant evidence or tell the head of the joint chief of staffs to kill one of his political rivals. i think there's some legitimate immunity and the case will go back to the trial court. the court will work out the details of immunity and ultimately, if trump is convicted, all of that can be reviewed on appeal, but i just don't think it's going to be reviewed now. interestingly, some of the justices and their questions, they seem to question whether
it presupposes jack smith wins right now and donald trump appeals it to the supreme court.e precedent that they might rely on john this court though has also not exactly had a big fealty to precedent in the past. why do you think that the precedence of nixon and watergate and the tapes and immunity is going to hold when say roe v. wade's precedent did not hold? >> the d.c. circuit, which has this case, i think has an easy question. total immunity is absurd. for reasons that some of your...
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however, it could potentially backfire on jack smith. trump's attorney today cast that motion in a sinister light calling it part of, quote, the prosecutor's desperate effort to harass president trump and prevent his likely victory in the 2024 presidential election, end quote. they're asking judge chutkan to order jack smith to explain why he should not be held in contempt of court as well as to withdraw all of their filings since the case was stayed and be forced to give trump money to pay for his legal bills. joining me now to understand this now is joyce vance. joyce, i want you to help me with this one. this one i'm troubled by it but i don't understand it. judge chutkan stayed the case because it had been appealed to higher courts, and i guess that's what she had to do. so now they're saying because it was stayed he's -- he's manipulating stuff, is that what's going on here? >> right. so trump's team is saying that jack smith violated the rules that the game is supposed to be played by. this isn't a motion that will have any impact
however, it could potentially backfire on jack smith. trump's attorney today cast that motion in a sinister light calling it part of, quote, the prosecutor's desperate effort to harass president trump and prevent his likely victory in the 2024 presidential election, end quote. they're asking judge chutkan to order jack smith to explain why he should not be held in contempt of court as well as to withdraw all of their filings since the case was stayed and be forced to give trump money to pay for...
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jack smith has made this argument powerfully before the court of appeals. i heard harry fay earlier that he was absolutely confident that this argument is a loser, and i want to adopt his view here. it's absolutely a stone cold loser. >> on that absolute confidence of joyce fans and harry litman i want to thank you both very much for starting our conversations tonight. very much appreciated. coming up, tonight donald trump's lawyers went to court in maine to try to get his name on the presidential ballot there after the secretary of state relied on the 14th amendment to bar donald trump from the ballot in maine. harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next. >>> tribe joins us next. tribe joins us next. >> she found it. the feeling of finding the psoriasis treatment she's been looking for. sotyktu is the first-of-its-kind, once-daily pill for moderate-to-severe plaque psoriasis for the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding your back... is back. or finding psoriasis can't deny the splendor of these thighs. once-daily sot
jack smith has made this argument powerfully before the court of appeals. i heard harry fay earlier that he was absolutely confident that this argument is a loser, and i want to adopt his view here. it's absolutely a stone cold loser. >> on that absolute confidence of joyce fans and harry litman i want to thank you both very much for starting our conversations tonight. very much appreciated. coming up, tonight donald trump's lawyers went to court in maine to try to get his name on the...
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jack smith did ask in his brief in the d.c. circuit that whatever the d.c. circuit does, it issue its mandate within five days of its ruling. and what a mandate is basically a directive saying this case is now going back to the lower court. that means the loser, whoever it is, if it they want to seek it, they need to be able to move before that mandate issues. otherwise the stay will lift because once it goes back to the lower court, the stay would lift. if donald trump loses, let's assume the d.c. circuit rules there's no such immunity, he will want that stay in place. so it will constrict the time unless they get more time. which they might. it would restrict the amount of time he has to sit on things and further delay them. >> to the extent that delay is part of the strategy here and not just from the legal team, but from trump's political team, how confident are they in that strategy? >> i think they are trying to appear bullish, but privately are not so sure this is going to work. it's really hard to with a square jaw and a straight face claim that the
jack smith did ask in his brief in the d.c. circuit that whatever the d.c. circuit does, it issue its mandate within five days of its ruling. and what a mandate is basically a directive saying this case is now going back to the lower court. that means the loser, whoever it is, if it they want to seek it, they need to be able to move before that mandate issues. otherwise the stay will lift because once it goes back to the lower court, the stay would lift. if donald trump loses, let's assume the...
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the only person that does not want the laws to apply to them is jack smith. let's not forget as, liz, the supreme court shut him down and urgency is the 2024 election and they said no, no, no, jack, you're not rushing this decision and you're going to go through the appellate division and go through the normal method that everyone is and we're probably going to have to end up in the supreme court. but it is not because the law's on our side. elizabeth: you lose -- >> motivated justices and ags and das that have no business in the country. elizabeth: if you lose in the appeals level it goes to the supreme court. turn to this story. this new complaint from codefendant micro man and fulton county da fanny willis and prosecutor hired saying they should be removed from the georgia 2020 case from misconduct because of personal monetary conflicts of interest. now, alina, the allegation is willis allegedly abused taxpayer money and high paying prosecutor job and got paid allegedly $604,000 since january of 2020 and they then use that had money to travel around the wo
the only person that does not want the laws to apply to them is jack smith. let's not forget as, liz, the supreme court shut him down and urgency is the 2024 election and they said no, no, no, jack, you're not rushing this decision and you're going to go through the appellate division and go through the normal method that everyone is and we're probably going to have to end up in the supreme court. but it is not because the law's on our side. elizabeth: you lose -- >> motivated justices...
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. >>> in our law and justice league now, we are taking on special counsel jack smith. looking at a brand-new court filing today. looking at the judge in the january 6 federal election subversion case trade two sanctions were from special counsel smith. we are allegedly looking at a violation of a stay order here in washington, d.c. is it even remotely credible? >> there is no love lost between the special counsel and the donald trump legal team. they are currently on hold, while donald trump litigates the larger questions about possible immunity. it has not stopped the special counsel from filing motions as if submitting discoveries. they were trying to work through the holiday. donald trump's team, legally, accusing others of being a grinch. doctors have been very clear about why they are doing this. i want to bring this case to trial before the november 2024 election. he hopes that if he can get all of his paperwork in, and if those appeals are being resolved in their favor, they can move to trial faster. that is not how they are describing it. many of these motions
. >>> in our law and justice league now, we are taking on special counsel jack smith. looking at a brand-new court filing today. looking at the judge in the january 6 federal election subversion case trade two sanctions were from special counsel smith. we are allegedly looking at a violation of a stay order here in washington, d.c. is it even remotely credible? >> there is no love lost between the special counsel and the donald trump legal team. they are currently on hold, while...
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joyce, why does jack smith have to stop filing motions? when an appeal is underway like this, a pretrial appeal, it divests jurisdiction from the district court, which means no further proceedings can be held there. so technically jack smith is probably out of order in continuing to file, but this isn't the sort of issue that gives rise to contempt proceedings. the judge can simply tell him to knock it off until jurisdiction is returned to her court. >> so why would he do it though is this he presumably knows this. >> it's political showsmanship. this is sort of a pr stunt on trump's part trying to say that jack smith isn't playing by the rules. it's a little bit like an offsides call in football -- >> wait, hold on, let me rephrase. why would jack smith be doing it if he knows he's not supposed to be doing it right now? >> i'm sorry. i mistook the question. >> that's okay. >> i think smith had an argument to offer for why he was entitled to do this. he is frustrated by all of the delays that the trump camp is engaging in. he wants to make
joyce, why does jack smith have to stop filing motions? when an appeal is underway like this, a pretrial appeal, it divests jurisdiction from the district court, which means no further proceedings can be held there. so technically jack smith is probably out of order in continuing to file, but this isn't the sort of issue that gives rise to contempt proceedings. the judge can simply tell him to knock it off until jurisdiction is returned to her court. >> so why would he do it though is...
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the exchange prompted james pierce, the attorney representing special counsel jack smith to ask, quote, what kind of world are we living in? if that hypothetical holds true. for his part, the former president suggested that losing his case would create, quote, bedlam in the country. what he would not do is answer the following question about any violence that would come with it. >> you just used the word bedlam, would you tell your supporters now, no matter what, no violence? >> [silence] >> in a moment, our political and legal team join us to talk about how it could reshape -- the power of the presidency for generations to come. first, cnn's paula reid with more of this consequential day in court. >> president trump traveled to washington tuesday, to watch arguments in a federal appeals court hearing, over whether he should be shielded from criminal prosecution. >> i feel that as a president, you have to have immunity, very simple. >> trump was not required to be in attendance, but was in court to witness the three judge panel expressed skepticism of his legal team's claim that he cou
the exchange prompted james pierce, the attorney representing special counsel jack smith to ask, quote, what kind of world are we living in? if that hypothetical holds true. for his part, the former president suggested that losing his case would create, quote, bedlam in the country. what he would not do is answer the following question about any violence that would come with it. >> you just used the word bedlam, would you tell your supporters now, no matter what, no violence? >>...
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jack smith believes he's closing presidents box, because if you give a president carte blanche, democracy the question is, politically speaking, why now? i mean we know why now, for legal reasons, because court of appeals had arguments today. why does trump double, triple, quadruple, why does he does it again? because we're only six days from the iowa caucus. because he knows, of course he knows, that taking his campaign to court makes this polls go up. quite the inverse relationship. remember, how he fundraised offers mugshot in georgia? i know. does he genuine believe he's entitled to immunity? i'll tell you what, he's entitled to knowing what the court will find here, and what they will decide. does every member of the electorate deserve to have an answer as well? i want to bring into brilliant legal minds to help again out the arguments that we heard today, the ones that we did not hear today. i've got norm isn't, senior house judges or a special counsel, at the first impeachment higher. harry lippman, former federal prosecutor. i'm glad you're both here to help us understand what sim
jack smith believes he's closing presidents box, because if you give a president carte blanche, democracy the question is, politically speaking, why now? i mean we know why now, for legal reasons, because court of appeals had arguments today. why does trump double, triple, quadruple, why does he does it again? because we're only six days from the iowa caucus. because he knows, of course he knows, that taking his campaign to court makes this polls go up. quite the inverse relationship. remember,...
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>> i think that what he's doing there, to a certain degree, is countering jack smith's argument thatis no immunity at all for a former president. and so those types of things that he listed that should have immunity attached to them, if you accept checks myths argument, when the white house changes hands, that next administration could theoretically prosecute somebody for those things. >> wouldn't they only be able to prosecute them if they were actually illegal? i think that's the point i'm making. those actions that were described there, where is the illegality? you may not like them, but they're not illegal. >> and that's really or the immunity comes. and a lot of things presidents do, by the standards that you and i have to be held to, are illegal. ordering strikes that are going to kill people. if you or i did, that would go to jail. >> not if you are in war. i guess, tim, not to kind of price you too much on this. i just think that the issue of a president ordering a strike and the context of a war, that is very clearly within the bounds of what is legal. >> correct. correct. i
>> i think that what he's doing there, to a certain degree, is countering jack smith's argument thatis no immunity at all for a former president. and so those types of things that he listed that should have immunity attached to them, if you accept checks myths argument, when the white house changes hands, that next administration could theoretically prosecute somebody for those things. >> wouldn't they only be able to prosecute them if they were actually illegal? i think that's the...
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it is also special counsel jack smith. we can now report jack smith is also the victim of an attempted swatting at his washington area home on christmas day. two law enforcement sources telling nbc news that someone called 911 that day reporting that jack smith had shot his wife at the address where smith lives. local police did dispatch units toward the home. they were called off when deputy u.s. marshals protecting smith and his family told police it was a false alarm. no arrests have been made. a spokesperson for the special counsel's office is declining to comment. but why is this happening and to so many officials in so many states? why is it gets worse and not better? what can law enforcement do about it, if anything? that's next. ♪♪ try dietary supplements from voltaren for healthy joints. attention hearing loss sufferers! do you struggle to hear loved ones? do you have trouble keeping up with conversations? try dietary supplements from voltaren do you listen to tv on max volume? hearing loss affects your life. you
it is also special counsel jack smith. we can now report jack smith is also the victim of an attempted swatting at his washington area home on christmas day. two law enforcement sources telling nbc news that someone called 911 that day reporting that jack smith had shot his wife at the address where smith lives. local police did dispatch units toward the home. they were called off when deputy u.s. marshals protecting smith and his family told police it was a false alarm. no arrests have been...
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mother nature, i think is lower on the list than jack smith.ect them to carpool, van pool on the top of snow plows, good feeling they will get to the caucuses. moving to new hampshire, one week later, interesting polling disparity and polling has been off so much. you have boston globe which shows trump ahead of nikki haley 46-26, 20-point lead. move to cnn and this is first poll i've seen with single-digit difference, trump 39 and haley 32, seven-point difference. >> dr. siegel: i think everyone is right, people will go to football games and iowa caucus and desantis will have a big problem if he doesn't show up well in iowa. i think he won't. new hampshire, nikki haley is looking good and south carolina her home state, she will start looking more and more like the number two, which might mean trump will choose her as number two. >> harris: a former cabinet member of his. >> kayleigh: new hampshire, what is interesting, the contest is meaningless, the dnc pulled delegates away from it. he has williamson not going to beat biden, they know the cu
mother nature, i think is lower on the list than jack smith.ect them to carpool, van pool on the top of snow plows, good feeling they will get to the caucuses. moving to new hampshire, one week later, interesting polling disparity and polling has been off so much. you have boston globe which shows trump ahead of nikki haley 46-26, 20-point lead. move to cnn and this is first poll i've seen with single-digit difference, trump 39 and haley 32, seven-point difference. >> dr. siegel: i think...
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but jack smith is.en's prosecutor is claiming trump could turn into a serial killer and shouldn't have blanket immunity if he goes full charles manson. and the democrat controlled three judge panel today played the assassination card. a biden appointed judge suggested trump could direct the military to assassinate his rival. listen. >> yes or no question. could a president who ordered assassinate a political rival could he be charged. the answer is -- >> my answer is qualified yes there's a political process that would have to occur under the structure of our constitution which would require impeachment and conviction for the senate. >> jesse: assassinating your political rival isn't within the bounds of your official presidential action. you don't get elected and start kidnapping and assassinating americans. by the way, this judge pan is a plant. she's tied to the kavanaugh and russia hoax. she's in the same social circles as merick garland. this wasn't the only time assassination was brought up today.
but jack smith is.en's prosecutor is claiming trump could turn into a serial killer and shouldn't have blanket immunity if he goes full charles manson. and the democrat controlled three judge panel today played the assassination card. a biden appointed judge suggested trump could direct the military to assassinate his rival. listen. >> yes or no question. could a president who ordered assassinate a political rival could he be charged. the answer is -- >> my answer is qualified yes...
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jack smith unwanted one at the district level.n the service of defending that, you had all this talk about maybe the president can order hits, and murders of americans, as long as there is no impeachment process. that is their outlandish legal theory. we have a little bit of that, omhe d.c. hearing on immunity, take a listen. >> could a president who ordered seal team six to sassinate a political rival, who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosutn? >> if he were impeached and convicted first, hands down. >> so your answer is? >> -- >> leslie, i am curious about what you think about the fact finding, or truth seeking mission of the law. because we are told that that is one good thing that is supposed to come, for guileless of what else happens. in other words, we hear about it in the case of victims, that the trial is designed to have a truth seeking function, that is separate from what the jury ultimately decides. that is why people talk about getting their day in court. i'm curious what you think about what the
jack smith unwanted one at the district level.n the service of defending that, you had all this talk about maybe the president can order hits, and murders of americans, as long as there is no impeachment process. that is their outlandish legal theory. we have a little bit of that, omhe d.c. hearing on immunity, take a listen. >> could a president who ordered seal team six to sassinate a political rival, who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosutn? >> if he were...
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but jack smith has subpoenaed the phone records to decide who was texting what. and it seems that dan scavino had his hands on the phone or whatever apparatus trump was using to tweet when he tweeted the don't beat up law enforcement text. but when trump tweeted about mike pence, he was alone in the room. so what is the significance of who was saying what when jack smith finally gets this case back? >> yeah, joy, really, really significant that dan scavino now is cooperating. we subpoenaed dan scavino and he refused to come and provide information, claiming executive privilege. the grand jury has the ability and has the special counsel has availed themself of the adjudication of an executive privilege claim. he won and forced dan scavino to talk. he was next to the president at all times. everyone told us that dan scavino was the guy, essentially, the gateway to the former president's twitter account. he held the phone and oftentimes would be the one typing out tweets. so he is in the room all afternoon on january 6th. it really matters in terms of evidence becau
but jack smith has subpoenaed the phone records to decide who was texting what. and it seems that dan scavino had his hands on the phone or whatever apparatus trump was using to tweet when he tweeted the don't beat up law enforcement text. but when trump tweeted about mike pence, he was alone in the room. so what is the significance of who was saying what when jack smith finally gets this case back? >> yeah, joy, really, really significant that dan scavino now is cooperating. we...
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should jack smith be held in contempt and will judge tanya chutkan actually do it?well let's first talk about whether or not he has violated the court order her order, stay order. he clearly has when he filed his motion in limine. her order basically says we are not going to do anything to impose new discovery obligations on or about e. on any ever the litigants. when do you that the other side has to respond. it's a clear violation of the order. i do not believe she is going to hold jack smith into contempt. she has gone out of her way. she has done everything possible to grant the government's motions in this case. so i don't think that's going to happen. i think at most what she will do is say that that motion must be withdrawn right now. >> judge jeanine: okay. mike davis, i will go with you, and i want you to take a listener of this sound from cnn saying it's not a given that the supreme court is going to take the trump immunity case. >> i don't know that it's a given, the supreme court takes it. on the one hand, it's a big issue, constitutional issue. we don't
should jack smith be held in contempt and will judge tanya chutkan actually do it?well let's first talk about whether or not he has violated the court order her order, stay order. he clearly has when he filed his motion in limine. her order basically says we are not going to do anything to impose new discovery obligations on or about e. on any ever the litigants. when do you that the other side has to respond. it's a clear violation of the order. i do not believe she is going to hold jack smith...
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they're not going to adopt either what sour said or what the jack smith team said.implement something like a qualified immunity. i think the supreme court will also probably take that and kind of slice it up as to certain actions they think a president should have immunity a touchdown, and certain action should not. >> reporter: on that front, i would like you to listen to what one of trump's attorneys, mr. sauer, argued in court today. >>> could george w. bush be prosecuted for obstruction of an official proceeding for allegedly giving false information to congress, to induce a nation to go to iraq at war under false pretenses? could president obama be potentially charged with murder for allegedly authorizing drone strikes targeting u.s. citizens located abroad? >> reporter: both of those examples are actions that were pretty clearly part of bush and obama's presidential duties. isn't that a bit of a red herring here in this argument? >>> well, i think what he's doing there to a certain degree is countering jack smith's argument that there is no immunity at all fou
they're not going to adopt either what sour said or what the jack smith team said.implement something like a qualified immunity. i think the supreme court will also probably take that and kind of slice it up as to certain actions they think a president should have immunity a touchdown, and certain action should not. >> reporter: on that front, i would like you to listen to what one of trump's attorneys, mr. sauer, argued in court today. >>> could george w. bush be prosecuted for...
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sources say he was questioned by jack smith's team. sources say he told investigators as the violence escalated, trump was not interested in doing more to stop it. describing his demeanor as very unsettling. scavino was one of many officials who said they tried to get trump to call off the mob. sources say he recalled to investigators a phone call with trump the night of january 6th. saying this is all your legacy here. and there's smoke coming out of the capitol. three years later, trump is still downplaying the attack, making false claims about the 2020 election a central part of his 2024 campaign. >> we're going to take our country back. we're going to take it back. >> reporter: the former president on a blitz through iowa this weekend, 30 points ahead of his rivals with the caucuses just eight days away. and tonight, he's under fire for saying the civil war, which was fought over the issue of slavery, could have been negotiated. do you find those comments acceptable? >> i don't even know what he's talking about. i mean, lincoln did
sources say he was questioned by jack smith's team. sources say he told investigators as the violence escalated, trump was not interested in doing more to stop it. describing his demeanor as very unsettling. scavino was one of many officials who said they tried to get trump to call off the mob. sources say he recalled to investigators a phone call with trump the night of january 6th. saying this is all your legacy here. and there's smoke coming out of the capitol. three years later, trump is...