and james seymour severance to be there or he's venting so that severance can hear not thinking anything of it because this guy is young and whatever. so he continues that. well, pierce i'm sorry. seymour severance, they call him seymour up and he says, well, you know, she did a lot in maryland. she helped a lot of people. you know, maybe she could teach these formerly enslaved people about freedom. and pierce continues, oh, no, we can't have any of that. we can't have of that underground. that underground stuff. she's too radical, you know, she's radical. she's going to the boat. we are. follow ing president lincoln and his gradual approach. right. and dealing at the time with these labor in which the u.s. government was not consistently paying people. so these labor managers having to force people compel people, freed people, formerly enslaved people to work. and so maybe he didn't want harriet tubman to come down into that mix and maybe to tell the freed people that they actually should be paid. right. we don't want her teaching them about freedom. it's a one. it's a it's an i opening