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he did, especially because of the difference between cox and jaworski. jaworski was a trial.and so at the time the office was being set up, no one could have done a better job of organizing us and hiring staff than cox and of giving us the moral fortitude to do our job. but when it came down to really fighting dirty court. leon jaworski. a better addition to that. did rick, did you think, you know, you're always looking for what's the third or fourth bounce here? yeah. on second bounce, i thought, well, what if there's nothing on these tapes and this just nixon's way. getting rid of cox can having a confrontation, clothing it and constant terms and rid of cox because. he didn't like what we were doing. and yet and then at the end of the day when he did is 180 and turned over the tapes there would be nothing there. well of course that wasn't case. far from it. but i don't think we thought that were getting some kind of a out of this at the time. i think what we thought was, look, we got to keep fighting to get these the tapes are the best evidence of what was actually said and
he did, especially because of the difference between cox and jaworski. jaworski was a trial.and so at the time the office was being set up, no one could have done a better job of organizing us and hiring staff than cox and of giving us the moral fortitude to do our job. but when it came down to really fighting dirty court. leon jaworski. a better addition to that. did rick, did you think, you know, you're always looking for what's the third or fourth bounce here? yeah. on second bounce, i...
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especially because of the difference between cox and jaworski. jaworski was a trial lawyer. at the time the office was being set up, no one could've done a better job of organizing us and hiring staff then cox. and of giving us the mortal fortitude to do our job. when it came down to fighting dirty in court, leon jaworski was a better edition. >> rick, you are always looking for what is the third or fourth bounce here. >> yeah, on the second bounce i thought well, what if there is nothing on these tapes? what if this is just nixon's way of getting rid of cox. the constitutional terms, and getting rid of cox, because he didn't like what we were doing. and yet, at the end of the day, when he did his 180 and turned over the tapes there would be nothing there. well, of course, that wasn't the case. far from it. but i don't think we thought that we were getting some kind of a win out of this at the time, bob. i think what we thought was look, we have to keep fighting to get these tapes. the tapes are the best evidence of what was actually said, and the tapes are the only thing th
especially because of the difference between cox and jaworski. jaworski was a trial lawyer. at the time the office was being set up, no one could've done a better job of organizing us and hiring staff then cox. and of giving us the mortal fortitude to do our job. when it came down to fighting dirty in court, leon jaworski was a better edition. >> rick, you are always looking for what is the third or fourth bounce here. >> yeah, on the second bounce i thought well, what if there is...
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mary, i wonder, we played the tape of nixon and jaworski. the parallels are eerie.even the same language, do not rush to judgment in this case. that was nixon filing. trump's filing, partisan rush to judgment. i mean, it's not a coincidence, and i wonder how much you think the specter of that case looms as the justices take potentially this on this one. given the stakes at hand. >> well, i think what's significant about the nixon case as well as the steel seizure case, is there a good examples of when a case is significant enough and important enough, and it's reason for the supreme court to do two things. one, to leap frog the court of appeals. and take a case directly from a district court decision. and secondly, to take a case on an expedited schedule. in this case, i think what jack smith is saying, even though in the ordinary course cases come up to the supreme court, after an issue, a legal issue, as been percolating in the courts of appeals for sometime. sometimes years. with different circuits potentially ruling in different ways. learning from each other an
mary, i wonder, we played the tape of nixon and jaworski. the parallels are eerie.even the same language, do not rush to judgment in this case. that was nixon filing. trump's filing, partisan rush to judgment. i mean, it's not a coincidence, and i wonder how much you think the specter of that case looms as the justices take potentially this on this one. given the stakes at hand. >> well, i think what's significant about the nixon case as well as the steel seizure case, is there a good...
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no suppose it was very sarcastic reminder to jaworsky that there is a court of repeals for such reason and that no one receives special treatment. not the president, and not an arrogant special prosecutor, and quote. do you see any potential downsides to jackson's the gambit? >> i don't. i think he is one step ahead. i think he's got a stronger case then nixon had for example, with the tapes. and certainly, that trump has in this case, for total immunity. >> given the dispute over immunity. i mean, to say nothing of the ongoing dispute over judge chutkan's gag order, do you think is any way in which trump 's federal election subversion trial starts on time in early march? >> it's got a shot now. we will see what the high court does, in taking this on, and how long it takes them to deliberate, and in the nixon case, they did it from start to finish, anderson, in 61 days. >> and given the makeup of the court i, mean how do you think they would rule, if they took the case? >> well, that's harder to tell. you know, if conservatives are being true conservatives, they're not going to say tha
no suppose it was very sarcastic reminder to jaworsky that there is a court of repeals for such reason and that no one receives special treatment. not the president, and not an arrogant special prosecutor, and quote. do you see any potential downsides to jackson's the gambit? >> i don't. i think he is one step ahead. i think he's got a stronger case then nixon had for example, with the tapes. and certainly, that trump has in this case, for total immunity. >> given the dispute over...
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leon jaworski, the special prosecutor had a sweet in the hotel jefferson, which happened to be the same hotel where phil buchanan and his wife were staying, which facilitated backdoor channel between the trust to phil buchanan, who would become white house counsel, and jaworski, the president was assured that it would be at least one year and quite probably two years before nixon could be brought to trial. the reason being pretrial publicity, ford in his own mind, reason had a sequence of events ending in a nixon conviction being overturned on precisely those grounds pretrial publicity in any event, knowing what he knew, knowing that the nixon obsession would preoccupy the country for the next two years, at a time when he was trying thing overnight to learn to be president, to address the economic problems the country had, as well as a host of foreign policy crises. that was what was going on in his head. now, can he be criticized for not pausing and asking himself, you know what might be the unintended consequences of this act, i suppose? and there are people today who who do so, and i
leon jaworski, the special prosecutor had a sweet in the hotel jefferson, which happened to be the same hotel where phil buchanan and his wife were staying, which facilitated backdoor channel between the trust to phil buchanan, who would become white house counsel, and jaworski, the president was assured that it would be at least one year and quite probably two years before nixon could be brought to trial. the reason being pretrial publicity, ford in his own mind, reason had a sequence of...
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but, it was a very out of pace actions by jaworski, but, now as i said, it's much more common today. there probably have been five or six cases in the last few years. >> so, i want to go back to that comparison again because the issue at the heart of u.s. v. nixon was whether a president has privilege in the subpoena case, not this question of presidential immunity jack smith is currently asking this report. you said it's a bigger deal in this case. but, is there a meaningful distinction here? help us understand that. >> well, the distinction is that nixon was not personally exposed in the criminal proceeding at that point. he was an unindicted coconspirator, but had no criminal liability. nobody knew what he was really hiding, which was the fact that he had indeed very early in the watergate cover-up given instructions to his top chief of staff and other aides to use the fbi to block the cia which was pure cover-up language, not well understood at the time, months and months after the cover-up had been undertaken and the court is looking at this. but, nixon was really hiding one tap
but, it was a very out of pace actions by jaworski, but, now as i said, it's much more common today. there probably have been five or six cases in the last few years. >> so, i want to go back to that comparison again because the issue at the heart of u.s. v. nixon was whether a president has privilege in the subpoena case, not this question of presidential immunity jack smith is currently asking this report. you said it's a bigger deal in this case. but, is there a meaningful distinction...
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which facilitated back door channels between the trusted phil - would become white house counsel in jaworski and the president was assured that would be at least one year and quite probably two years before nixon could be brought to trial. the reason being pre- trial publicity. and ford inwn his own mind reasoned sequence of events, inending in a nixon conviction being overturned on precisely those grounds, pretrial publicity and in the event knowing what he knew, and knowing the nixon obsession would preoccupy the country for thet next two years at a time when he was trying overnight, to learn to be president and to address the economic problems the country had as well is a host of foreign policy crises. that was what was going on in his head and now, can he be criticized for not causing and asking himself, what might be the unintended consequences of this act i suppose. in our people today who do so. and i respect their judgment. and you know, but to me, we do not elect or presidents for their clairvoyance. we elect them among other things with the character, for the willingness to make di
which facilitated back door channels between the trusted phil - would become white house counsel in jaworski and the president was assured that would be at least one year and quite probably two years before nixon could be brought to trial. the reason being pre- trial publicity. and ford inwn his own mind reasoned sequence of events, inending in a nixon conviction being overturned on precisely those grounds, pretrial publicity and in the event knowing what he knew, and knowing the nixon...
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between the trusted phil buchanan, who had become white house council, and jaworski. the president was assured that it would be at least one year and quite probably two years before nixon could be brought to trial. the reason being, pretrial publicity. ford, in his own mind, reasonede a sequence of events, ending in a nixon conviction being overturned on precisely those grounds. pretrial publicity. in any event, knowing what he knew, knowing that the nixon obsession would preoccupy the country for the next two years, at a time when he was trying overnight to learn to be president, to address the economic problems the country had, as well as a host of foreign policy crises. that was what was going on in his head. now, can he be criticized for not pausing and asking himself, you know, what might be the unintended consequences of this act? i suppose. and there are people today who do so. and i respect their judgment. you know, but to me, we don't elect our presidents for their clairvoyance. we elect them, among other things, for their character and for their willingness
between the trusted phil buchanan, who had become white house council, and jaworski. the president was assured that it would be at least one year and quite probably two years before nixon could be brought to trial. the reason being, pretrial publicity. ford, in his own mind, reasonede a sequence of events, ending in a nixon conviction being overturned on precisely those grounds. pretrial publicity. in any event, knowing what he knew, knowing that the nixon obsession would preoccupy the country...
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it was just one week ago today when leon jaworski asked the court to rule on the president's deiancerush to judgment and allow the case to be heard in the court of appeals. >> that was how we got nixon's watergate tapes. the nixon lawyers did not want to turn them over. it asked them not to rush to judgment. that's an exact quote. and it is also the exact same argument that donald trump's lawyers made to this supreme court this time around. they called on the court not to, quote, rush to judgment. now 1974 the supreme court didn't buy that argument. the matter was resolved in two months with the court's historic 8-0 decision determining richard nixon had to surrender the tapes. they believed the gravity of that matter involving a sitting u.s. president required an immediate response. but today in the year 2023 this supreme court has decided the no rush to judgment argument is good enough to them when it comes to a past and potentially future president, and that decision has significant implications for the question of accountability here because the supreme court is not choosing to w
it was just one week ago today when leon jaworski asked the court to rule on the president's deiancerush to judgment and allow the case to be heard in the court of appeals. >> that was how we got nixon's watergate tapes. the nixon lawyers did not want to turn them over. it asked them not to rush to judgment. that's an exact quote. and it is also the exact same argument that donald trump's lawyers made to this supreme court this time around. they called on the court not to, quote, rush to...
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it was one week ago today when leon jaworski asked the court to rule on the presidents defiance of a yesterday when the president's lawyer asked the court not to rush to judgment and allow the case to be heard in the court of appeals. >> that was how we got nixon's watergate tapes. the nixon white house did not want to turn them over, as you heard john chancellor say. the nixon administration wanted the court to take its time. it asked them not to rush to judgment, that is an exact quote. and it is also the exact same argument that donald trump's lawyers made to this supreme court this time around. they called on the court not to, quote, rushed to judgment. now, 1974, the supreme court did not buy that argument. the matter was resolved in two months, with the court's historic 8 to 0 decision, determining that richard nixon had to surrender of the tapes. they believe that the gravity of that matter involving a sitting u.s. president required an immediate response. but today, in the year 2023, this supreme court has decided that the no rush to judgment argument is good enough for them
it was one week ago today when leon jaworski asked the court to rule on the presidents defiance of a yesterday when the president's lawyer asked the court not to rush to judgment and allow the case to be heard in the court of appeals. >> that was how we got nixon's watergate tapes. the nixon white house did not want to turn them over, as you heard john chancellor say. the nixon administration wanted the court to take its time. it asked them not to rush to judgment, that is an exact quote....