but if there's a tick video or an instagram, like i'm saying like jeff jackson think is connected witha lot of beyond the political dialog is able toi'm wondering is there a way that you would reach out to incredibly intriguing, interesting here i'll revert to another cillizza piece of advice which is he told me once that i used to teach a journalism undergraduate tosely, you know, a lot of a lot of young young students and brought chris to speak to them one time. and he said, you know, have to be like like a las vegas you have to you want korean korean barbecue 3 a.m. you want peruvian ta.m. you can get that at three. i mean, i sort of everything is there for you and and you want to be at as many of those buffet stations you i, i try to reach ways. was just speaking at dartmouth lastac read christine romans book on my flight, come to le to new hampshire and a bunch of the undergrads came up to me and i like, why are they so interested in this? they knew me from my podcast right? they knew me opinion. this weekly opinion podcast, i have within you, which is great and people should list

wash jeff jackson -- watch jef jackson and you will see it. the kids love it.ing. he's not hopping around, he's not doing it with a song. he is sitting there like a teacher but in a very straightforward way. if you have 435 members and 100 senators copying his master class on how to explain congress every week, you would break through a lot of the clutter. he's using social media in a very positive way. i work in that area. but he gets -- but it gets a bad rap. there's a place for what he is doing. it cuts through.>> cooper, i wiu the last word on this session. >> folks who have not served in congress don't understand, this is what congress will do in 2024. folks back home think that work is a five day a week job. here, we basically work on wednesday. you come here tuesday and thursday, fly in and fly out days. the one day that the house is in session is wednesday. that is when all the constituts back home. if you don't greet your constituents who traveled all the way to washington to see you and miss your hearing, miss your markups -- so we have really collaps

and i'll use like jeff jackson down in north carolina, leveraging media. you know, the how do you reach the tik-tok generation, the snippets on, youtube and instagram? how does this connect and open up a dialog instead of the us versus them? how does it become you know, we just had a discussion in here about mitt romney. i have zero interest in mitt romney, but i came in here to hear what else am i going to learn from this biography about a political figure that i really don't feel connected at all. and and i'm wondering how, do you take your books on? fascinating to me. if i shared it with my daughters and their twenties, they would not read it. i'm just going to be candid. but if there's a tick video or an instagram, like i'm saying, like jeff jackson think is connected with a lot of beyond the the typical political dialog is able to connect. i'm wondering is there a way that you would reach out to others to share this incredibly intriguing, interesting discussion here i'll revert to another cillizza piece of advice which is he told me once that i used t

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now, in just a minute, we're going to be joined by david jackson. he's with usa today now. but at the time of the hearings, he was with the dallas morning news and he covered these. he'll be joining us right after we hear from jeff quinn, who is an author whose most recent book is entitled waco, david koresh and the branch davidians and a legacy of rage. here's what happened. david koresh, formerly vernon wayne, how and the branch davidians live in a large, sprawling house that they call mount carmel on a hill outside waco, texas. they pretty much keep to themselves. they literally believe in every word in the bible, and they believe that david koresh is the lamb of the book of revelation. and he and his followers are about to bring about the end of times from the book of revelation by battling the forces of babylon. they've come to the attention of atf, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, arms for being in unlawful possession of semiautomatic weapons that have been converted to automatic weapons. there's nothing illegal about doing that. in 1993. if you register each weapon and yo