host: jess bravin, your thoughts on that?: there was not any question about the results of the election. congress was ready to serve by them. if congress had rejected them, i suppose there might have been something. if there was a constitutional crisis, there might have been some type of review. but there was no sense anywhere, other than in what some trump advisors imagined, that the vice president had a unilateral power to nullify the votes of hundreds of millions of americans. so i think that is a very extreme idea that whoever happens to be the vice president -- and if that was really true, think back to the 2000 when vice president gore had to preside over the session that certified the election of george w. bush, even after a very contentious recount that left bush 537 votes ahead of gore in florida after bush, like trump, lost the popular vote. gore did not believe he had the power to declare himself the winner, neither did nixon when john kennedy's victory was certified. so if that was normal, a lot of vice presidents