. >> jim stoner. >> jim stoner. the particular's question about our particular, america and what are the tensions with america in particular. it struck me three came to mind in the course of your comments, first, in relation to professor adler, defending education in relation to skills just appeals to the american practical sensitive tocqueville is right about americans you won't defend things if you can't speak up the practice, second, the professor's comments about one's own place, americans are always on the move, we are a country of the frontier, commercial society, we've moved from the beginning, that's part of what we are. we called the new world but i'm tempted to say the spirit of the sophomore is the spirit of america in a lot of ways. i wouldn't -- the third point is something you mentioned in passing that has to do with the christian side of things. we are not as religious a people as we were when justice douglas through that into a supreme court opinion when he thought he might but doesn't that create a