jim townsend of the levin center. oliver north testimony. did it move the needle in the investigation. well, it certainly heightened the level of of controversy and drama around the investi gation. as i mentioned before, he was a very, you know, kind of colorful figure who, you know, we already had millions of people watching these hearings, millions of people really following every every movement of this. you know, this was sort of in the early days of the 24 hour news cycle. and the you know, there was a media feeding frenzy and when he came forward, he really upped sort of the level of intensity. and the revelation is, you know, that the evidence around him that to some degree he had to admit to indicated that he and some of his associates had shredded documents, had deleted emails, had done a great deal to to obscure the truth, to basically hide what was going on, hide an illegal activity that the congress had explicitly forbidden. so a lot was learned in the course of investigating oliver north and also john poindexter, the national sec