now he's among those that released in the prisoners swap, and jody ginsburg is the ceo of the committee to protect journalists. i asked her for her reaction to his res. i was up to date the night since we've been campaigning. so evans released for more than a year. he's been in detention for 9500 days, much of that. and so the confinement of to has been prevented from leaving russia since may of last year. so this is a fantastic moment to see those pictures to see those images of evan analysis. you free and soon to be meeting that families. but of course it's such a sweet, me know, close to things individuals are in a sense, they committed no crimes. although at the russians tried to accuse them of espionage, but the claims for the fact that they were journalists who were then uses political hostages, and they've been exchanged, unfortunately for convicted criminals. as you say, such as an assassin who was convicted in a german cools, let's talk a little bit more about what you just said there actually. um, which is that many observers have set declaration of its arrest is essentially a