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shouted bring back john bercow!xit years was known as a speaker who played with parliamentary rules because, in the view of many conservative mps, he was biased towards the labour party. that swaying accusation suggests that now the tories consider that lindsay hoyle, who was always thought of as a very respectable, very straight down the line sort of speaker, is now just as bad as john bercow. and this story is moving very , very this story is moving very, very quickly. just a few days ago, you would be hard pressed to find anyone in parliament willing to criticise lindsay hoyle. he's a he's a much loved figure. he's got all sorts of sort of menagerie of lovely pets. they're always profiles of him what a wonderful, him about what a wonderful, straight laced sort of man he is today. all of that has gone right the window. william right out of the window. william wragg, a backbench tory mp , has wragg, a backbench tory mp, has proposed a motion in the house of commons signalling that the house has no confidence the ho
shouted bring back john bercow!xit years was known as a speaker who played with parliamentary rules because, in the view of many conservative mps, he was biased towards the labour party. that swaying accusation suggests that now the tories consider that lindsay hoyle, who was always thought of as a very respectable, very straight down the line sort of speaker, is now just as bad as john bercow. and this story is moving very , very this story is moving very, very quickly. just a few days ago,...
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you know, john bercow bercow.ow, john bercow was very he obviously was a very, very he obviously very known, very prominent very well known, very prominent speaken very well known, very prominent speaker. but a very divisive one because he was seen not to be impartial on brexit and i think it's i think it's very clear that john bercow was , uh, that john bercow was, uh, skewing votes. let's say . and skewing votes. let's say. and there will now be accusations that lindsay hoyle has done the same thing. >> um, what do you make of claims this morning that sir lindsay hoyle was bullied by sir keir starmer into accepting that motion or indeed, motion yesterday, or indeed, a backroom had done backroom deal had been done between the pair? >> i think that's quite unlikely . he. think starmer . he. i think keir starmer is too averse he's so too risk averse to. he's so focussed on winning this election , doing something like election, doing something like that would jeopardy that would put in jeopardy a sense of sort of fa
you know, john bercow bercow.ow, john bercow was very he obviously was a very, very he obviously very known, very prominent very well known, very prominent speaken very well known, very prominent speaker. but a very divisive one because he was seen not to be impartial on brexit and i think it's i think it's very clear that john bercow was , uh, that john bercow was, uh, skewing votes. let's say . and skewing votes. let's say. and there will now be accusations that lindsay hoyle has done the...
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if it takes us back to the days of john bercow. in fact, some sarcastically were shouting out bring back john bercow when bercow was seen to make very, very controversial decisions in terms of what votes he allowed, what amendments he allowed during the whole brexit debacle , which went on pretty debacle, which went on pretty much for two years. however dramatic, however passionate the scenes were in westminster dunng scenes were in westminster during brexit, they are, frankly, as of nothing compared to what we have seen today . that to what we have seen today. that is my take on it. i'm very pleased to say that i'm joined now live live from westminster by christopher hope gb news political editor. christopher, good evening . welcome to the good evening. welcome to the program . this has been moving so program. this has been moving so quickly. i'd love to know what is the current state of play ? is the current state of play? >> well, the current state of play >> well, the current state of play is mps are wandering around the member
if it takes us back to the days of john bercow. in fact, some sarcastically were shouting out bring back john bercow when bercow was seen to make very, very controversial decisions in terms of what votes he allowed, what amendments he allowed during the whole brexit debacle , which went on pretty debacle, which went on pretty much for two years. however dramatic, however passionate the scenes were in westminster dunng scenes were in westminster during brexit, they are, frankly, as of nothing...
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it's bully john bercow.therefore unfortunate that hoyle's unconstitutional actions, which i'm told he was advised against doing by parliamentary staff, have advised against doing by parliamentary staff , have got parliamentary staff, have got the labour party out of a political bind . a labour split political bind. a labour split would have been very illuminating for the british people, who would have been indulged with an exclusive and compelling preview of what a starmer government might actually look like, one utterly divided the optics would have been potentially disastrous for sir keir starmer, with a clear message that this man has no real control over his own party. see if they do win. i actually hope that labour achieve a landslide victory. god help us if they only get a slim , narrow if they only get a slim, narrow majority in which case the bonkers left of the party, the likes of john mcdonnell , richard likes of john mcdonnell, richard burgon and self—confessed proud socialist rebecca long—bailey
it's bully john bercow.therefore unfortunate that hoyle's unconstitutional actions, which i'm told he was advised against doing by parliamentary staff, have advised against doing by parliamentary staff , have got parliamentary staff, have got the labour party out of a political bind . a labour split political bind. a labour split would have been very illuminating for the british people, who would have been indulged with an exclusive and compelling preview of what a starmer government might...
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it's bully john bercow.therefore unfortunate that hoyle's unconstitutional actions, which i'm told he was advised against doing by parliamentary staff, have advised against doing by parliamentary staff , have got parliamentary staff, have got the labour party out of a political bind . a labour split political bind. a labour split would have been very illuminating for the british people, who would have been indulged with an exclusive and compelling preview of what a starmer government might actually look like, one utterly divided the optics would have been potentially disastrous for sir keir starmer, with a clear message that this man has no real control over his own party. see if they do win. i actually hope that labour achieve a landslide victory. god help us if they only get a slim , narrow if they only get a slim, narrow majority in which case the bonkers left of the party, the likes of john mcdonnell , richard likes of john mcdonnell, richard burgon and self—confessed proud socialist rebecca long—bailey
it's bully john bercow.therefore unfortunate that hoyle's unconstitutional actions, which i'm told he was advised against doing by parliamentary staff, have advised against doing by parliamentary staff , have got parliamentary staff, have got the labour party out of a political bind . a labour split political bind. a labour split would have been very illuminating for the british people, who would have been indulged with an exclusive and compelling preview of what a starmer government might...
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well, lindsay hoyle as a speaker defined himself very much against john bercow and the way he used toplace special procedures to stop that happening or to to acknowledge when it was going to happen. like what? well, this idea that the clerk of the house could write a letter and place it in the library of the house saying you are now departing from precedent. oh, which she actually did yesterday. which he actually did, so that was a real sort of throwback to brexit times. and when hoyle, when he was getting elected in the first place, sort of proposed that procedure, we all sort of thought, well, he's proposing it because he never intends to have it used. and there it was being used. so it was, yeah, it was quite remarkable scenes. his argument that he kind of he did the right thing. he did the wrong thing for the right reasons, like letting there be as many options for mps as there as there were. is there not some merit in that approach? especially when something as emotional, as chris was saying, as this conflict? absolutely there is merit in that approach. that is what the speaker i
well, lindsay hoyle as a speaker defined himself very much against john bercow and the way he used toplace special procedures to stop that happening or to to acknowledge when it was going to happen. like what? well, this idea that the clerk of the house could write a letter and place it in the library of the house saying you are now departing from precedent. oh, which she actually did yesterday. which he actually did, so that was a real sort of throwback to brexit times. and when hoyle, when he...
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and eventually , as we know, john eventually, as we know, john bercow got to choose the moment of hisnce in him and at that point he simply chose to fall on his sword and resign. i think the expectation from these mps is that it wouldn't actually have to get to a situation where they would have to vote it . it would would have to vote it. it would just be the case that lindsay hoyle would feel the pressure, would accept that he didn't have the , well, the the confidence of, well, the snp, third biggest in snp, the third biggest party in the house of commons, and would sort the the right the house of commons, and would sort and the the right the house of commons, and would sort and step the right the house of commons, and would sort and step aside right the house of commons, and would sort and step aside for ht thing and step aside for somebody . who person somebody else. who that person would question , would be is another question, which i'm sure we'll talk about lots in the coming days. >> the runners and riders >> yeah, the runners and riders for the role , of course. it's a for th
and eventually , as we know, john eventually, as we know, john bercow got to choose the moment of hisnce in him and at that point he simply chose to fall on his sword and resign. i think the expectation from these mps is that it wouldn't actually have to get to a situation where they would have to vote it . it would would have to vote it. it would just be the case that lindsay hoyle would feel the pressure, would accept that he didn't have the , well, the the confidence of, well, the snp, third...
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they become an independent mp until bercow , until john until john bercow, until john bercow, and theysaw during the brexit years , uh, what the brexit years, uh, what happens when a speaker is perceived to be partial? he was obviously perceived to be a remainer. he made comments that made people clearly feel that. and then he took a lot of actions that stymied brexit. and so we saw how angry the house got. i sat through all those brexit wars in the commons as the anger. it was nothing. on the anger. it was nothing. on the anger. it was nothing. on the anger in the chamber last night. i mean, mps were furious. this wasn't just tory mps , this this wasn't just tory mps, this was mps. even the smaller was snp mps. even the smaller parties, green party . this parties, the green party. this has implications for all the other parties. only labour were happy happened happy with what happened last night has to tell you night and that has to tell you something about the scale of this, because he effectively , by this, because he effectively, by what did with by manipulating what he did with by
they become an independent mp until bercow , until john until john bercow, until john bercow, and theysaw during the brexit years , uh, what the brexit years, uh, what happens when a speaker is perceived to be partial? he was obviously perceived to be a remainer. he made comments that made people clearly feel that. and then he took a lot of actions that stymied brexit. and so we saw how angry the house got. i sat through all those brexit wars in the commons as the anger. it was nothing. on the...
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. >> um, but if you look at the things that, you know, speaker john bercow much worse john bercow survivedived much worse tha|government. attempts from john bercow survived much worse tha|government frontbenchrom john bercow survived much worse tha|government frontbench to n the government frontbench to oust him he was speaker of oust him when he was speaker of the house. so i don't think this position is in real jeopardy. and also the snp. i mean, look, they used opposition day they used their opposition day debates put forward two debates to put forward two things which they knew would cause the labour cause trouble with the labour party. obviously on the party. one was obviously on the ongoing situation in gaza . the ongoing situation in gaza. the other was on the green pledges . other was on the green pledges. so they were trying to play politics with this, for them to turn around now say, oh my turn around now and say, oh my goodness, believe goodness, i can't believe someone play politics someone tried to play politics with we were with the thing that we were playing with. it does pl
. >> um, but if you look at the things that, you know, speaker john bercow much worse john bercow survivedived much worse tha|government. attempts from john bercow survived much worse tha|government frontbenchrom john bercow survived much worse tha|government frontbench to n the government frontbench to oust him he was speaker of oust him when he was speaker of the house. so i don't think this position is in real jeopardy. and also the snp. i mean, look, they used opposition day they used...
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but, um, you know, john bercow was often favouring labour and he was a former conservative mp.e favouring labour as well . so, be favouring labour as well. so, um, don't know. do we get um, i don't know. do we ever get a speaker who favours the, the um, conservatives but, um, i mean, obviously it's a very , mean, obviously it's a very, very difficult job because, um , very difficult job because, um, you know, when you get amendments put down, the speaker has choose which amendments has to choose which amendments to accept and you know, which amendments you accept, of course, is a very strong political issue. and um, you know, you can't really win if you're the speaker. you've got a list of ten amendments. you've got time to accept three of them. well, um, you know, what bafis them. well, um, you know, what basis do you you choose those three. so i think whatever decision you make as a speaker, you're going to be in trouble. but, um, absolutely. >> well, maybe, uh, maybe we just get an eye robot speaker, something ross clark, something like that. ross clark, thanks much for joini
but, um, you know, john bercow was often favouring labour and he was a former conservative mp.e favouring labour as well . so, be favouring labour as well. so, um, don't know. do we get um, i don't know. do we ever get a speaker who favours the, the um, conservatives but, um, i mean, obviously it's a very , mean, obviously it's a very, very difficult job because, um , very difficult job because, um, you know, when you get amendments put down, the speaker has choose which amendments has to...
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sir lindsay hoyle defied convention defied parliamentary convention in in a john bercow in a very muchnk he did so with out any legitimacy whatsoever . in with out any legitimacy whatsoever. in spite with out any legitimacy whatsoever . in spite of that, whatsoever. in spite of that, i think at the same time. so it's two things are true, right ? i two things are true, right? i think he should probably resign at the same time, there is clearly threats to mps and they need to looked after. and need to be looked after. and i think it's also important say think it's also important to say historically we've after historically we've looked after senior the cabinet or senior members of the cabinet or the leader the opposition the leader of the opposition that now needs apply that probably now needs to apply to too , which is to backbenchers too, which is sad. it's very i'll finish with this. sorry i spoke a lot, but i'll say this. you don't want your class be your political class to be inoculated the rest of inoculated from the rest of society. you want be able to society. you want to be able
sir lindsay hoyle defied convention defied parliamentary convention in in a john bercow in a very muchnk he did so with out any legitimacy whatsoever . in with out any legitimacy whatsoever. in spite with out any legitimacy whatsoever . in spite of that, whatsoever. in spite of that, i think at the same time. so it's two things are true, right ? i two things are true, right? i think he should probably resign at the same time, there is clearly threats to mps and they need to looked after. and...
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, john back bercow because bercow, john bercow had here was bercow of course, had here was similarly similarly accused of being biased . uh, similarly accused of being biased. uh, he similarly accused of being biased . uh, he would that biased. uh, he would deny that dunng biased. uh, he would deny that during the, the brexit debates, all those years ago. >> i half joked chris, if >> and i half joked chris, if it's bring back bercow, we now we've got to be in a bit of a state. >> but all of this is performative. these votes won't have any actual legislate impact. nothing will happen. it won't change netanyahu's mind . won't change netanyahu's mind. it won't have impact even on it won't have any impact even on british policy. is it just british policy. so is it just performative , virtue signalling perform ative, virtue signalling posturing? it's performative, virtue signalling posturing? it's performance posturing? well it's performance in sense. in a sense. >> it will have bearing >> yes. it will have no bearing on government policy towards on uk government policy towards supporting
, john back bercow because bercow, john bercow had here was bercow of course, had here was similarly similarly accused of being biased . uh, similarly accused of being biased. uh, he similarly accused of being biased . uh, he would that biased. uh, he would deny that dunng biased. uh, he would deny that during the, the brexit debates, all those years ago. >> i half joked chris, if >> and i half joked chris, if it's bring back bercow, we now we've got to be in a bit of a state....
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there were people chanting bercow chanting bring back bercow earlier think it's john earlier and i think speaker during the bercow, the speaker during the brexit it was brexit wars when it was very controversial, was controversial. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> it's got to be pretty, pretty bad of bad for that. and then of course, also course, what actually also happened tonight is the government, as you know, um, penny announced this, penny mordaunt announced this, that actually that we were actually withdrawing our amendment. so what meant is there was what that meant is there was only labour the snp , one only the labour in the snp, one left. rightly then left. so snp quite rightly then asked, well can we vote on ours first then that's the normal way that goes. that that the procedure goes. that would a basically how you would be a basically how you would be a basically how you would expect things to go. that would expect things to go. that would be but there's been would be fair, but there's been no change. so they whether no change. so they asked whether the suspended. the house could
there were people chanting bercow chanting bring back bercow earlier think it's john earlier and i think speaker during the bercow, the speaker during the brexit it was brexit wars when it was very controversial, was controversial. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> it's got to be pretty, pretty bad of bad for that. and then of course, also course, what actually also happened tonight is the government, as you know, um, penny announced this, penny mordaunt announced this, that actually...
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we've had this bercow the this with john bercow in the past accused of past who was accused of partisanship the partisanship when it came to the brexit similarly, brexit vote. and similarly, lindsay in lindsay hoyle is in that in hot water a similar water for a similar reason. >> apologised. so, you >> he's apologised. so, you know, maybe we on deal know, maybe we move on and deal with in country , with issues in this country, what things that can actually what things that we can actually do maybe, maybe. >> right. maybe. >> well ght. crossed for that >> well fingers crossed for that one. let's move on now. cressida >> well fingers crossed for that onthe at's move on now. cressida >> well fingers crossed for that onthe dailyiove on now. cressida >> well fingers crossed for that onthe daily mail>n now. cressida >> well fingers crossed for that onthe daily mail oi'iiow. cressida >> well fingers crossed for that onthe daily mail on thursday. da to the daily mail on thursday. what they leading with? okay. >> bosses must make allowances for menopausal women . um, so for menopausal women. um, so
we've had this bercow the this with john bercow in the past accused of past who was accused of partisanship the partisanship when it came to the brexit similarly, brexit vote. and similarly, lindsay in lindsay hoyle is in that in hot water a similar water for a similar reason. >> apologised. so, you >> he's apologised. so, you know, maybe we on deal know, maybe we move on and deal with in country , with issues in this country, what things that can actually what things that we can...
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and i think with lindsay hoyle and john bercow, my goodness, you know, i think we have to have a conversationountry. and i don't think this is a left right issue actually, about how the profession is, ah, giving up on professionalism. yeah. civil service media. i saw justin welby speak to a welby wouldn't speak to a religious from bethlehem religious figure from bethlehem because he a platform because he shared a platform with corbyn. well this is with jeremy corbyn. well this is be professional. you know, do your job, be professional. you know, do yourjob, put be professional. you know, do your job, put your feelings to be professional. you know, do yourside. put your feelings to be professional. you know, do yourside. put yl ur feelings to be professional. you know, do yourside. put yl feel�*elings to be professional. you know, do yourside. put yl feel likegs to be professional. you know, do yourside. put yl feel like with one side. and i feel like with bercow , with lindsay bercow, with lindsay hoyle, we're seeing a snapshot of that a little bit. >> but bercow was was naked bias. lindsay i
and i think with lindsay hoyle and john bercow, my goodness, you know, i think we have to have a conversationountry. and i don't think this is a left right issue actually, about how the profession is, ah, giving up on professionalism. yeah. civil service media. i saw justin welby speak to a welby wouldn't speak to a religious from bethlehem religious figure from bethlehem because he a platform because he shared a platform with corbyn. well this is with jeremy corbyn. well this is be...
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bercow. but i think we should remember that, um, a lot of people acted irresponsibly, i believe, by putting party politics first in flaming and already dangerous situation , and that we all need situation, and that we all need to get a grip, build a consent circus and move forward . circus and move forward. >> i mean, it was an absolute debacle. do you feel embarrassed by it , christine? debacle. do you feel embarrassed by it, christine? because all the while you're there in parliament and thousands of more people are getting killed during this israel gaza war. it was something so utterly serious that you were voting on. >> it was. and one of the things that i find almost unforgivable about this is that there was a petty party political positioning going on. um initially by the snp, who very carefully worded amendments. so that it would, they thought, show the divisions in the labour party both ourselves and i understand the labour party were trying to be consensual in this and wants to speak
bercow. but i think we should remember that, um, a lot of people acted irresponsibly, i believe, by putting party politics first in flaming and already dangerous situation , and that we all need situation, and that we all need to get a grip, build a consent circus and move forward . circus and move forward. >> i mean, it was an absolute debacle. do you feel embarrassed by it , christine? debacle. do you feel embarrassed by it, christine? because all the while you're there in parliament...
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she was the first female black chaplain to the house of commons under speaker john bercow.worst speaker we've ever and that's who she is. ever had? and that's who she is. well, that i mean, that doesn't make her. >> mean , that's an an >> i mean, that's an that's an amazing achievement . amazing achievement. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> become the first. >> to become the first. >> to become the first. >> black plan for >> but a female black plan for the church. >> they w.- e that for. >> what do they need that for. what's it for? why don't you just some bums on seats? just get some bums on seats? bums on pews is the proper expression church because expression in the church because the of england is the church of england is descending into complete irrelevance and pointlessness. and this won't help. >> well, they say this is moving it into the future generation. this is modernising the church. maybe know your thoughts. maybe let me know your thoughts. gb that gbnews.com. first, gb views that gbnews.com. first, though, news though, the very latest news with wenzler . bev with sophia
she was the first female black chaplain to the house of commons under speaker john bercow.worst speaker we've ever and that's who she is. ever had? and that's who she is. well, that i mean, that doesn't make her. >> mean , that's an an >> i mean, that's an that's an amazing achievement . amazing achievement. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> become the first. >> to become the first. >> to become the first. >> black plan for >> but a female black plan for...