we're going to talk now with jon dennis, who is the chairman. we're going to go now to our catherine heenan. she is live now in our newsroom. she's been watching this case very closely over the last 6 weeks. our desks are right next to each other. and when this verdict came in, i heard her. do it have a little gasp. and catherine, i looked at each other and we've been waiting for this catherine is in our newsroom now with updates. thanks for joining us. all right. were working to get her situated. here is john dennis there for us. ok? so here's what's happening now on kron 4 today. let's go over some of the breaking news details that we've learned about former president donald trump. he has been convicted in his hush money trial. the jury reached this about an hour ago. they wanted wrap this up. trump found guilty on 34 felony counts. this was during the second day of deliberations that the jury came back. they had a mighty task before them. they did deliberate for about 9, a and a half hours total 4 and a half hours on wednesday, 5 today. at so