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i think with joshua turner. yeah. and that's after justice sotomayor decided she just was sort of done. it was clear. she's frustrated. i look, this is turner's first time arguing in front of the justices, and i think it's it's showing especially for example and what we're justice sotomayor, she has diabetes and she shared a hypothetical about someone with diabetes, the type of care that they could be prevented from receiving she gave a hypothetical and he he had a moment there. we could have maybe acknowledged the humanity there. so maybe he just moved on to his legal arguments. so that was not wanting him any friends with the liberal bloc. but one of the things that we weren't able we'll do here on air, but our colleagues are following this. i'm gonna read it. >> it's the questioning from justice amy coney barrett, and it's interesting because she pushed the idaho attorney joshua turner over when doctors could be criminally prosecuted for performing an abortion under state law. >> and she's making an interesting poi
i think with joshua turner. yeah. and that's after justice sotomayor decided she just was sort of done. it was clear. she's frustrated. i look, this is turner's first time arguing in front of the justices, and i think it's it's showing especially for example and what we're justice sotomayor, she has diabetes and she shared a hypothetical about someone with diabetes, the type of care that they could be prevented from receiving she gave a hypothetical and he he had a moment there. we could have...
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here's an exchange between justice sonia sotomayor or and idaho were lawyer, joshua turner, and amy coney barrett. >> when idaho law changed, to make the issue whether she's going to die or not or whether she's going to have a serious medical condition, there's a bit of daylight, by your standards, correct? >> it is very case-by-case. >> i'm kind of shocked, actually, because i thought your own expert had said below that these kinds of cases were covered and you are now saying they are not? >> those doctor said if they were exercising the medical judgment, they could, in good faith, determined that life- saving care is necessary and that's my point, a -- >> some doctors couldn't. some might reach a contrary conclusion, i think is what justice sotomayor is asking you. >> justice barrett said she was shocked by turner's answer but as a laid out before the break, is it really surprising? isn't this what actavis said would happen after the overturning of roe v wade? tina yeah. >> they are saying that doctors in good faith should be covered but there are some cases were clearly, doctors practi
here's an exchange between justice sonia sotomayor or and idaho were lawyer, joshua turner, and amy coney barrett. >> when idaho law changed, to make the issue whether she's going to die or not or whether she's going to have a serious medical condition, there's a bit of daylight, by your standards, correct? >> it is very case-by-case. >> i'm kind of shocked, actually, because i thought your own expert had said below that these kinds of cases were covered and you are now saying...
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she was referring to joshua turner who was arguing on behalf of the state, who essentially said there's no real problem here that the government itself is over-reading what this emergency medical act would entail, and that the state is actually in sync with what it would entail. but i just wanted to say one last thing about the and a concern that justice elena kagan raised about how this plays out on the ground. even some of the conservatives who are in the middle of the court, like rick kavanaugh and amy coney barrett, they seem to be a little concern there, but bottom line, the justices have already allowed this idaho ban to take effect. >> joan biskupic really intense arguments before the court. we appreciate you bringing us up to speed. let's turn now to jessica levenson. she's a law professor at loyola law school, also the host of the passing judgment podcast thanks so much for being with us, jessica, i am curious to get your perspective on the fact that idaho's attorneys are viewed that this federal reading of the law doesn't conflict with the state's law. the federal government t
she was referring to joshua turner who was arguing on behalf of the state, who essentially said there's no real problem here that the government itself is over-reading what this emergency medical act would entail, and that the state is actually in sync with what it would entail. but i just wanted to say one last thing about the and a concern that justice elena kagan raised about how this plays out on the ground. even some of the conservatives who are in the middle of the court, like rick...
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turner argued for the state and faced a barrage of medical hypotheticals from the liberal justices. >> all of these cases are rare, but within these rare cases, there's a significant number where the woman is, her life is not in parallel, but she's going to lose her reproductive organs. she's going to lose the ability to have children in the future unless an abortion takes place conservative justice, amy coney barrett joined her liberal colleagues in pressing turner on the state's position and how it leaves doctors open to prosecution if they were exercising their medical judgment, they could in good faith, determined that lifesaving care was necessary and that's my point, is this a subject some dieters couldn't is some factors might reach a contrary conclusion, i think as well as sotomayor's asking you so they reached if they reached the conclusion that the legislature's doctors did, would they be prosecuted under idaho law no no. if they if they reached the conclusion that the doctor reynolds, dr. white, did that these were like what if the prosecutor thought differently? what if
turner argued for the state and faced a barrage of medical hypotheticals from the liberal justices. >> all of these cases are rare, but within these rare cases, there's a significant number where the woman is, her life is not in parallel, but she's going to lose her reproductive organs. she's going to lose the ability to have children in the future unless an abortion takes place conservative justice, amy coney barrett joined her liberal colleagues in pressing turner on the state's...
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turner, a constitutional litigator. i saying essentially what you said is that there's no reason for the federal government to come in and control the law in state emergency rooms on the other side will be elizabeth prelogar, the solicitor general of the united states, saying no, this federal law preempts state, state bands in certain situations. this is a narrow kind of health situation where a woman might have a ruptured membrane might be at risk for organ failure but as i said, not be completely on death's door. and what the government is saying is that this law that traces to 1986, that was essentially designed to prevent patient dumping in emergency rooms would require physicians to try to care for women and if required, help her terminate a pregnancy okay all right. or arguments set to begin just a couple hours. jonah's there. thank you very much, sarah. >> all right. >> with me now, is the president of the center for reproductive rights, nancy northrop, to continue this discussion. thank you so much for coming in
turner, a constitutional litigator. i saying essentially what you said is that there's no reason for the federal government to come in and control the law in state emergency rooms on the other side will be elizabeth prelogar, the solicitor general of the united states, saying no, this federal law preempts state, state bands in certain situations. this is a narrow kind of health situation where a woman might have a ruptured membrane might be at risk for organ failure but as i said, not be...
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turner, who is a top constitutional litigator in the state, arguing for the government will be solicitor general elizabeth prelogar mr. turner is going to assert that idaho's ban, just like all the other bands in about 15 other states nationwide, should control in these situations that the federal government, federal law here should not displace state rules for emergency rooms and the federal government will encounter no in these very difficult situations emergency room medical personnel should care for a woman who might need for life at, for health threatening reasons to have a pregnancy terminated. sarah just could be far-reaching decision that affects so many women. thank you. you so much. joan biskupic. i appreciate it, john. >> all right. any moment in new york, judge, could rule of donald trump has violated the gag order in his criminal take case. it would mean he is in contempt. he made brand new comments overnight in an update on the congressional comeback d from former congressman george santos the. >> sinking of the titanic. >> how would really happen, especially to our premier
turner, who is a top constitutional litigator in the state, arguing for the government will be solicitor general elizabeth prelogar mr. turner is going to assert that idaho's ban, just like all the other bands in about 15 other states nationwide, should control in these situations that the federal government, federal law here should not displace state rules for emergency rooms and the federal government will encounter no in these very difficult situations emergency room medical personnel should...
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turner argued for the state& faced a barrage of medical hypotheticals from the liberal justices. >> all of the these cases are rare, but within these rare cases, there's a significant number whereas woman is her life is not in parallel, but she's going to lose her reproductive organs. she's going to lose the ability to have children in the future unless and abortion takes place. conservative justice, amy coney barrett joined her liberal colleagues in pressing turner on the state's position and how it leaves doctors open to prosecution if they were exercising their medical judgment, they could in good faith, determined that life-saving care was necessary and that's my point. >> is this a subjects and dieters couldn't is some factors might reach a contrary conclusion, i think as well as sotomayor is asking you, so they reached if they reached the conclusion that the legislature there's doctors did would they be prosecuted under idaho law no. no. if they if they reached the conclusion that the doctor reynolds, dr. white, did that these were like what if the prosecutor thought different
turner argued for the state& faced a barrage of medical hypotheticals from the liberal justices. >> all of the these cases are rare, but within these rare cases, there's a significant number whereas woman is her life is not in parallel, but she's going to lose her reproductive organs. she's going to lose the ability to have children in the future unless and abortion takes place. conservative justice, amy coney barrett joined her liberal colleagues in pressing turner on the state's...
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and that idaho says should not be covered up first sarah will be joshua turner, representing the state of idaho, arguing that federal for law does not preempt state law here, that the state still governs what goes on in the emergency room up next we'll be solicitor general. elizabeth prelogar saying in serious emergency situations is federal law has to take effect. women have to be guaranteed that their health will be preserved if they have serious complications in pregnancy sarah, joan biskupic are right outside of court. we're also looking if you see there on the screen as the protesters are asserting to gather in much larger numbers so far opening arguments begin in just less than an hour, and this isn't the only place that is discussing this very volatile issue. >> it's absolutely the right. we're also watching arizona right now are the chaotic fight takes khader, click there. it takes a new turn over abortion access and that civil war era abortion ban in arizona after false starts last week, a major hurdle could now be clear to cnn's natasha, can she's in phoenix for us tracking a
and that idaho says should not be covered up first sarah will be joshua turner, representing the state of idaho, arguing that federal for law does not preempt state law here, that the state still governs what goes on in the emergency room up next we'll be solicitor general. elizabeth prelogar saying in serious emergency situations is federal law has to take effect. women have to be guaranteed that their health will be preserved if they have serious complications in pregnancy sarah, joan...