76
76
Dec 8, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 76
favorite 0
quote 1
leading off our discussion is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she's a co-host of the podcast hashtag sisters in law. also melissa murray, professor of law at new york university. they are both msnbc legal analysts. joyce vance, to the appeal that donald trump's lawyers have filed, they are, in effect, insisting, they don't even bother to put it in his request, they are insisting that judge chutkan stop everything in the case, do absolutely nothing now that they have filed this appeal on the issue, the issues that they believe should absolutely stop the proceedings. what do you make of their appeal? judge chutkan has given jack smith an expedited time schedule for filing his response to it by sunday night. >> yeah, so the argument, lawrence, is essentially a technical legal argument. trump's lawyers are saying that the district court, the trial court, is divested of any jurisdiction to continue ruling on anything involved in the trial. now this issue is on appeal. they cite some v
leading off our discussion is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she's a co-host of the podcast hashtag sisters in law. also melissa murray, professor of law at new york university. they are both msnbc legal analysts. joyce vance, to the appeal that donald trump's lawyers have filed, they are, in effect, insisting, they don't even bother to put it in his request, they are insisting that judge chutkan stop everything in the case, do...
0
0.0
Dec 14, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance breaks it down for what it all means. and later, abortion is back in front of our nation's highest court for the first time since it overruled roe v. wade. the case that will decide access to a commonly used abortion pill. the 11th hour just getting underway on a really important wednesday night. ian will find the true meaning of the holiday sweater. i will? because he went to michaels and got everything he needed to make a one of a kind crewneck you could never get off the rack. turn ideas into i-did-its. ♪ (holiday music) ♪ ♪ if there's pain when you try to poo ♪ ♪ and going sometimes feels like you ♪ ♪ pushed through a pineapple or two ♪ ♪ colace is the brand you need ♪ ♪ to soften stools, we're all agreed ♪ ♪ #2 should be easy to do ♪ trust colace to soften stools with no stimulants for comfortable relief. >> the federal case against donald trump for interfering with the 2020 election is now officially on pause. we need to find out why. judge tanya chutkan has halted all proceedings in the case until there is a resolu
joyce vance breaks it down for what it all means. and later, abortion is back in front of our nation's highest court for the first time since it overruled roe v. wade. the case that will decide access to a commonly used abortion pill. the 11th hour just getting underway on a really important wednesday night. ian will find the true meaning of the holiday sweater. i will? because he went to michaels and got everything he needed to make a one of a kind crewneck you could never get off the rack....
0
0.0
Dec 8, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
we start with ken dilanian and peter baker and joyce vance., this indictment alleging hunter had the money, he had the income to pay taxes. instead, he chose not to pay his taxes, even after he had gotten clean from drugs, in response to the anticipated defense that he was addicted and he was doing this not of clear mind. how serious are the new charges? remind us, how did we get here? >> reporter: extremely serious. all told, the new charges carry a maximum penalty of 17 years in prison. that sentence is, of course, unlikely. this situation is especially remarkable, because as you said, hunter had a chance to resolve the tax charges by pleading guilty over the summer to failing to file a return under a deal that called f no jail time. that deal fell apart because prosecutors declined to declare him immune from future charges, leading his legal team to walk away. that's looking like a catastrophic decision. the attorney general quickly appointed david weiss the special counsel. in september, weiss indicted hunter on a felony gun charge in dela
we start with ken dilanian and peter baker and joyce vance., this indictment alleging hunter had the money, he had the income to pay taxes. instead, he chose not to pay his taxes, even after he had gotten clean from drugs, in response to the anticipated defense that he was addicted and he was doing this not of clear mind. how serious are the new charges? remind us, how did we get here? >> reporter: extremely serious. all told, the new charges carry a maximum penalty of 17 years in prison....
0
0.0
Dec 14, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance is with us as well. joyce let start with you.'s walk us through this case do we have any k ideas about how the court could rule here? for many people the first time we heard of this drug was after roe was overturned. we saw some states governors stockpile the drug. >> right, more than 50% of abortions in the united states are medication abortions, and mifepristone is one of two drugs that is essential for that procedure and it had been approved by the fda many years ago, and that initial approval is not in question in the argument that the supreme court will hear. what is in question is the condition under which it can be prescribed. for instance, there's been discussion of whether telemedicine can be used and whether the woman actually has to be present in a doctor's office when it is administered. all conditions that are an effort to make it more difficult to obtain this form of an abortion. so the original case stuff came out of a one judge division in a federal district court in texas. the litigants manufactured standing a gr
joyce vance is with us as well. joyce let start with you.'s walk us through this case do we have any k ideas about how the court could rule here? for many people the first time we heard of this drug was after roe was overturned. we saw some states governors stockpile the drug. >> right, more than 50% of abortions in the united states are medication abortions, and mifepristone is one of two drugs that is essential for that procedure and it had been approved by the fda many years ago, and...
0
0.0
Dec 29, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
. >>> joyce vance joins us about the cases the president is facing and more. you're watching msnbc.acing and more. you're watching msnbc. helping more kids grow up to be whatever they want to be. like this kid, who's a high school track star. and this kid, who was elected to state office. and this kid, who has three kids. marlo thomas: give thanks for the healthy kids in your life, and give a gift that could last a lifetime. (son) dad. you ok? (dad) it's our phone bill! we pay for things that we don't need! bloated bundles, the reckless spending! no more... (mom) that's a bit dramatic... a better plan is verizon. it starts at 25 dollars a line. (dad) did you say 25 dollars a line? (sister) and save big on things we love, like netflix and max! (dad) oh, that's awesome (mom) spaghetti night -- dinner in 30 (dad) oh, happy day! (vo) a better plan to save is verizon. it starts at $25 per line guaranteed for 3 years and get both netflix and max for just $10/mo. only on verizon. ♪ my name is josh sanabria and i am the owner at isla veterinary boutique hospital. i was 5...6 years of age an
. >>> joyce vance joins us about the cases the president is facing and more. you're watching msnbc.acing and more. you're watching msnbc. helping more kids grow up to be whatever they want to be. like this kid, who's a high school track star. and this kid, who was elected to state office. and this kid, who has three kids. marlo thomas: give thanks for the healthy kids in your life, and give a gift that could last a lifetime. (son) dad. you ok? (dad) it's our phone bill! we pay for...
0
0.0
Dec 12, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining us is joyce vance, joyce, great to see you.. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> did i understand that correctly? did i explain any of that the wrong way around? >> no, i think you got it just right. michael dreeben is the former deputy solicitor general who had responsibility for criminal. that makes him a great pick for this case. >> i know you worked with mr. dreeben, you know him professionally from all your years in federal law enforcement. what should we understand about him in terms of his skills, what he brings to this, and why jack smith might be using him in this way? >> mere u.s. attorneys, the job i once held, have to go to the solicitor general for permission any time the government wants to take an appeal on a criminal case. he was in charge of making those decisions and that means he's considered every sort of criminal appellate situation that could come up. this writ you're talking about, rachel, the writ for judgment before the court of appeals has considered a case, this isn't something that's commonly used. i
joining us is joyce vance, joyce, great to see you.. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> did i understand that correctly? did i explain any of that the wrong way around? >> no, i think you got it just right. michael dreeben is the former deputy solicitor general who had responsibility for criminal. that makes him a great pick for this case. >> i know you worked with mr. dreeben, you know him professionally from all your years in federal law enforcement. what should we...
0
0.0
Dec 24, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance, thank you so much. rough weather conditions starting -- christmas eve throughout the midwest, dozens of flights canceled in chicago. alone after a thick fog caused a complete ground stop in the city, one of the nation's biggest travel hubs, it's as a blizzard has taken name at the central plains and colorado up to south dakota in parts of minnesota. truckers along the interstate i 80 in the roscoe are siding off of the slick rather sliding off of the slick roadways, and at this coming to a call from blinding snowfall. shaquille brewster is at midway airport in chicago today. he joins us now and, shaq, up to this point, midwesterners we're seeing whenever i visit there, we've got off easy. but, not as we look at christmas. >> right, especially when you look at the weather outside, we are talking about unseasonably warm temperatures in chicago. many people thinking that would lead to better travel conditions. unfortunately, we saw fog this morning and here in chicago's midway airport the lead to a ground
joyce vance, thank you so much. rough weather conditions starting -- christmas eve throughout the midwest, dozens of flights canceled in chicago. alone after a thick fog caused a complete ground stop in the city, one of the nation's biggest travel hubs, it's as a blizzard has taken name at the central plains and colorado up to south dakota in parts of minnesota. truckers along the interstate i 80 in the roscoe are siding off of the slick rather sliding off of the slick roadways, and at this...
0
0.0
Dec 2, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
amy lee copeland, and joyce vance. when we come back, it took nearly a year but today the house of representatives finally voted to expel george santos. no thanks to house republican leadership, by the way, with every single republican leader voting to keep george santos on the job. democrats are really the ones who cleaned up this republican santos mess. congressman glenn ivey, a member of the house ethics and judiciary committees joins me next. check. when uc tried to slow me down... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc caused damage rinvoq came through by visibly repairing my colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief... lasting steroid-free remission... ...and the chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check, check, and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal; cancers, including lymphoma and skin cancer; death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older w
amy lee copeland, and joyce vance. when we come back, it took nearly a year but today the house of representatives finally voted to expel george santos. no thanks to house republican leadership, by the way, with every single republican leader voting to keep george santos on the job. democrats are really the ones who cleaned up this republican santos mess. congressman glenn ivey, a member of the house ethics and judiciary committees joins me next. check. when uc tried to slow me down... i got...
0
0.0
Dec 11, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
you'll catch all, joyce vance, thanks to both of you.sh opening arguments and see all of neal katyal's legal breakdowns, including, soon enough, this one. siena had, for the republicans are doubling down on the way they're trying to control what books children have access to. that's coming up. but first, giuliani, facing over $40 million in damages and a reckoning for lies. r lies r lies and calms the nerve down. and my patients say you know doc, it really works. ( ♪♪ ) the serrano name has always been something we're proud of. it's why we show it off on our low riders and why we wear our name on our chains. we come from people we can be proud of. from socal to our family in texas, to back home in jalisco. seeing all the places i come from, i know. if it's a serrano, it's something to be proud of. i take it all with me and i always will. give the gift of family heritage with ancestry. ian will find the true meaning of the holiday sweater. i will? because he went to michaels and got everything he needed to make a one of a kind crewneck yo
you'll catch all, joyce vance, thanks to both of you.sh opening arguments and see all of neal katyal's legal breakdowns, including, soon enough, this one. siena had, for the republicans are doubling down on the way they're trying to control what books children have access to. that's coming up. but first, giuliani, facing over $40 million in damages and a reckoning for lies. r lies r lies and calms the nerve down. and my patients say you know doc, it really works. ( ♪♪ ) the serrano name has...
0
0.0
Dec 4, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance. welcome, joyce.there puts it down in the paper, the record, this is a precedent because no one else has reached this point. what does it tell you that trump is sort of making that kind of negative present president president? >> i think it means that the former president is in a lot of trouble. and, you know, judges, ari, and you know this, they always instructed juries when they go back to deliberate. they don't have to leave their common sense at the door. they don't have to leave their common sense at the door either. and we know enough about the american system of justice to understand that no one is above the law. presidents are not above the law. and if those words are going to have meaning, then judge chutkan's ruling is the only ruling the entirety of our court system can reach when it comes to donald trump, not above the law. reading also from that view, that reading, he maye subject to federal investigation, indictment, prosecution, conviction, and punishment for any criminal acts undertake
attorney joyce vance. welcome, joyce.there puts it down in the paper, the record, this is a precedent because no one else has reached this point. what does it tell you that trump is sort of making that kind of negative present president president? >> i think it means that the former president is in a lot of trouble. and, you know, judges, ari, and you know this, they always instructed juries when they go back to deliberate. they don't have to leave their common sense at the door. they...
0
0.0
Dec 12, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining us is joyce vance, joyce, great to see you.nk you for being here. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> did i understand that correctly? did i explain any of that the wrong way around? >> no, i think you got it just right. michael dreeben is the former deputy solicitor general who had responsibility for criminal. that makes him a great pick for this case. >> i know you worked with mr. dreeben, you know him professionally from all your years in federal law enforcement. what should we understand about him in terms of his skills, what he brings to this, and why jack smith might be using him in this way? >> mere u.s. attorneys, the job i once held, have to go to the solicitor general for permission any time the government wants to take an appeal on a criminal case. he was in charge of making those decisions and that means he's considered every sort of criminal appellate situation that could come up. this writ you're talking about, rachel, the writ for judgment before the court of appeals has considered a case, this isn't something th
joining us is joyce vance, joyce, great to see you.nk you for being here. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> did i understand that correctly? did i explain any of that the wrong way around? >> no, i think you got it just right. michael dreeben is the former deputy solicitor general who had responsibility for criminal. that makes him a great pick for this case. >> i know you worked with mr. dreeben, you know him professionally from all your years in federal law...
0
0.0
Dec 7, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
always good to see our friend joyce vance. there was a big debate last night. if you didn't watch it we won't make you rewatch it or watch it for the first time. we'll show you important points later in the program. also, this historic abortion rights ruling in texas. we have that tonight. but coming up next, a we have n heard from in months. i bet you remember tony schwartz, cowrote "art of the deal". he is back for an important reason which we'll get into in 60 seconds. turn ideas into i-did-its. ♪ (holiday music) ♪ (carolers) ♪ iphone 15 pro, your husband deserves it! ♪ (mom) carolers? to tell me you twant a new iphone?id-its. a better plan is verizon. (dad) no way they'd take this wreck. (carolers) ♪ yes, they will, in any condition. ♪ ♪ get iphone 15 pro and ipad and apple watch - all on them! ♪ (mom) please forgive him. (carolers) ♪ it's all good - just a little awkward. ♪ (soloist) think we'll wrap this up. (vo) for a limited time, turn any iphone in any condition into a new iphone 15 pro with titanium and ipad and apple watch se - all on us. that's up t
always good to see our friend joyce vance. there was a big debate last night. if you didn't watch it we won't make you rewatch it or watch it for the first time. we'll show you important points later in the program. also, this historic abortion rights ruling in texas. we have that tonight. but coming up next, a we have n heard from in months. i bet you remember tony schwartz, cowrote "art of the deal". he is back for an important reason which we'll get into in 60 seconds. turn ideas...
0
0.0
Dec 17, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining me now for more, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama, professor at the university of alabama school of law, msnbc legal analyst, and a co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. her greatest role for me is keeping me on track when it comes to all things legal. joyce, thanks for joining us this morning. let's start with that new york civil fraud trial. trump appealing that gag order on friday after losing a petition on thursday with the appellate court to get the gag orders overturned. my first question for you, joyce, what happens when the trial is over? do those gag orders actually survive after a ruling comes from judge engoron on the remaining counts? >> you know, they won't survive once the trial is over. katie, what will happen is that trump, like any other private citizen, will be responsible for his words. if he does do anything that constitutes some form of a civil wrong, saying, to judge engoron's a log partner who has been on the attack against, he could be held accountable in a civil lawsuit at that po
joining me now for more, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama, professor at the university of alabama school of law, msnbc legal analyst, and a co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. her greatest role for me is keeping me on track when it comes to all things legal. joyce, thanks for joining us this morning. let's start with that new york civil fraud trial. trump appealing that gag order on friday after losing a petition on thursday with the appellate court to get the gag orders...
0
0.0
Dec 9, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance, always good to see you. thank you for your wisdom tonight.e him tonight, including an exclusive look at the front lines of the migrant crisis and how big cities are coping. but first, what about trump? the embattled chair of florida 's republican party invokes the trump defense against serious allegations of sexual battery. that is next. eally lasts. yeah, most scented stuff gives me a headache, but this is just right. and i don't like anything. but i like this. get a light scent that lasts with no heavy perfumes or dyes. ( ♪ ♪ ) as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it. talk to your health care provider about ways to lower your risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. learn more at getrea
joyce vance, always good to see you. thank you for your wisdom tonight.e him tonight, including an exclusive look at the front lines of the migrant crisis and how big cities are coping. but first, what about trump? the embattled chair of florida 's republican party invokes the trump defense against serious allegations of sexual battery. that is next. eally lasts. yeah, most scented stuff gives me a headache, but this is just right. and i don't like anything. but i like this. get a light scent...
0
0.0
Dec 23, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining me now joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama, professor at the university of alabama school of law. msnbc legal analyst and co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. joyce, thank you for being here, my apologies for getting legal language wrong, but in all seriousness, how do you read the supreme court's decision to refuse jack smith's request for expedition, and will it result in a long delay at the trial that is set to begin on march 24th? >> well look, jonathan, i thought she did a great job. lawyers always say -- and so you sounded very much in the know there. and that is the one thing that we know, right? we know how to say -- but what we don't know is precisely what the supreme court's ruling means for the timeline. there are a lot of different variables, and it's hard to predict. here's what we do know. the district of columbia court of appeals will get first crack at deciding whether judge chutkan was correct when she said that donald trump's immunity motion was due to be denied. that is importan
joining me now joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama, professor at the university of alabama school of law. msnbc legal analyst and co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. joyce, thank you for being here, my apologies for getting legal language wrong, but in all seriousness, how do you read the supreme court's decision to refuse jack smith's request for expedition, and will it result in a long delay at the trial that is set to begin on march 24th? >> well look, jonathan, i...
0
0.0
Dec 7, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance, who spent four years as a federal prosecutor.nd i are both moderate. i cannot imagine being 20 weeks pregnant, finding out a diagnosis like this and has been to be in court to fight to make decisions for my own health and my families. how significant is this lawsuit? >> the lawsuit is significant. the problem is an important one. this is what people mean when we hear them say that a portion 's health care. this fetus has trisomy 18. even if it survived until birth, it will not have a life ahead of it. but the mother's help's -- health is at risk. she has underlying conditions that could be elevated and it may will impair her ability to be a future children. she's got to little kids. she said, she'd like to have a large family, but doctors have told her this process is likely to lead to scouring that means she won't be able to have another child. so instead of getting to make these decisions herself with her husband and daughter, shaye's forced to ask a state court judge in travis county, texas to make decisions about her medical
attorney joyce vance, who spent four years as a federal prosecutor.nd i are both moderate. i cannot imagine being 20 weeks pregnant, finding out a diagnosis like this and has been to be in court to fight to make decisions for my own health and my families. how significant is this lawsuit? >> the lawsuit is significant. the problem is an important one. this is what people mean when we hear them say that a portion 's health care. this fetus has trisomy 18. even if it survived until birth,...
0
0.0
Dec 25, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
want to bring in msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, to talk more about this. thank you so much for joining us on this christmas afternoon. happy holidays to you and your family and thanks for taking some time out to talk us through some of this stuff. if you will, joyce, this was expected, right? this late night saturday filing to the d.c. court of appeals. especially after the decision from the supreme court to punt this back to the lower court system. >> right. that's exactly how this played out. trump's lawyers had called the government the grinch for trying to expedite the calendar for briefing. the d.c. court of appeals ordered trump to file saturda and his lawyers did at just about the last possible moment. trump's legal team in part claiming this is a separation of powers issue saying the judicial branch cannot sit in judgment over a president official acts. the doctrine is not as they say controversial. in this filing. what do you make of some of the arguments being made in this filing, joyce? >> i think it's important to understand what the decision p
want to bring in msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, to talk more about this. thank you so much for joining us on this christmas afternoon. happy holidays to you and your family and thanks for taking some time out to talk us through some of this stuff. if you will, joyce, this was expected, right? this late night saturday filing to the d.c. court of appeals. especially after the decision from the supreme court to punt this back to the lower court system. >> right. that's exactly how this...
0
0.0
Dec 11, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance, thank you so much. she is, of course, co-host of the "sisters-in-law" podcast, which you'll need to go into overtime these days. thank you so much. >>> coming up in one minute, as donald trump seeks a return to power, a current and former european diplomat is voicing major concern that nato could be gutted if he is re-elected. richard haass and former nato supreme allied commander admiral james stavridis are standing by with how this all could play out. >>> plus, former congressman tom suozzi will join us in studio after launching a run for the seat vacated by george santos. >>> also, a deal like we've never seen before. we'll discuss shohei ohtani's $700 million, ten-year contract with the los angeles dodgers. we're back in 60 seconds. at bombas we make the comfiest socks, underwear, and t-shirts that feel good and most of all do good. because when you purchase one, we donate one to those in need. visit bombas.com and shop our big holiday sale. bombas. give the good. >>> all right. in a moment, we'll g
attorney joyce vance, thank you so much. she is, of course, co-host of the "sisters-in-law" podcast, which you'll need to go into overtime these days. thank you so much. >>> coming up in one minute, as donald trump seeks a return to power, a current and former european diplomat is voicing major concern that nato could be gutted if he is re-elected. richard haass and former nato supreme allied commander admiral james stavridis are standing by with how this all could play out....
0
0.0
Dec 14, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining us now is ryan reilly and joyce vance.hy did giuliani not testify? >> reporter: the attorney for these two plaintiffs said that what they want the jury to do is send a message to rudy giuliani and others like him that they can't spread baseless conspiracy theories about civil servants who are only doing their job and did nothing wrong. the impact of that could have broader implications for other individuals. they are alluding to donald trump in this instance. the attorney for rudy giuliani was saying that what his client did was bad, but it wasn't as bad as the damages that the plaintiffs are seeking here. trying to limit the exposure and ultimately, it's up to the jurors to decide how much damages are impacting here. they are asking for $24 million for each of the plaintiffs in the case. a big total that could have devastating consequences for rudy giuliani if he is able to scrounge up that money because he is having financial difficulties at the moment. >> joyce, on the immunity claim by donald trump, judge chutkan pause
joining us now is ryan reilly and joyce vance.hy did giuliani not testify? >> reporter: the attorney for these two plaintiffs said that what they want the jury to do is send a message to rudy giuliani and others like him that they can't spread baseless conspiracy theories about civil servants who are only doing their job and did nothing wrong. the impact of that could have broader implications for other individuals. they are alluding to donald trump in this instance. the attorney for rudy...
0
0.0
Dec 9, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance, always good to see you. thank you for your wisdom tonight.including an exclusive look at the front lines of the migrant crisis and how big cities are coping. but first, what about trump? the embattled chair of florida 's republican party invokes the trump defense against serious allegations of sexual battery. that is next. >>>battery. that is next that is next >>jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app. jen x is planning a summer in portugal with some help from j.p. morgan wealth plan. let's go whiskers. jen y is working with a banker to budget for her birthday. you only turn 30 once. and jen z? her credit's golden. hello new apartment. three jens getting ahead with chase. solutions that grow with you. one bank for now. for later. for life. chase. make more of what's yours. ok, someone just did laundry... no, i add downy light so the freshness really lasts. yeah, most scented stuff gives me a headache, but this is just right. and i don't like anything. but i like this. get a light scent that lasts with no heav
joyce vance, always good to see you. thank you for your wisdom tonight.including an exclusive look at the front lines of the migrant crisis and how big cities are coping. but first, what about trump? the embattled chair of florida 's republican party invokes the trump defense against serious allegations of sexual battery. that is next. >>>battery. that is next that is next >>jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app. jen x is planning a summer in...
0
0.0
Dec 15, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney, joyce vance, university of alabama law essor and msnbc legal analyst.oyce. i w to read more about what thought the letters are y she important. quote, if you do something wrong that impacts the community, there needs to be real contrition. the contrition doesn't have to be a poetic melody, pages and pages, sometimes you just need i'm sorry. she actually said she preferred a single sentence. how do you measure a show of contrition and how does that fit into the story legally? so i think it's a difficult situation, and it's one of the reasons federal prosecutors don't typically engage in this process of obtaining an apology. we see the results here and depending on how you view this case, people can point to it as either an inadequate sort of apology or even something that falls short of acknowledging guilt. the realty is both former defendants have made statements, given proffers, they've testified. fani willis has their testimony and from a legal point of view as the prosecution moves forward against other remaining defendants, that's what will matter.
attorney, joyce vance, university of alabama law essor and msnbc legal analyst.oyce. i w to read more about what thought the letters are y she important. quote, if you do something wrong that impacts the community, there needs to be real contrition. the contrition doesn't have to be a poetic melody, pages and pages, sometimes you just need i'm sorry. she actually said she preferred a single sentence. how do you measure a show of contrition and how does that fit into the story legally? so i...
0
0.0
Dec 30, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
she's a professor at the university of michigan law school and msnbc contributor joyce vance. she's a professor at the university of alabama school of law. barb and joyce are a former university -- and co-host of the hashtag sister in law podcast. welcome to get both. joyce, the colorado plaintiffs are asking the supreme court to decide on trump's eligibility by february 11th, but they propellers or sent out. how soon arthur justice likely to take up this issue? >> you know, it's a great question. because we know that the supreme court can act very quickly when it motivated to do so. that's the real question here. will the justices believe it's urgent to ask? if so, they're more than capable of rendering a timely decision. >> barb, this week, the highest court and michigan declined to hear a 14th amendment case against trump. why do you think the outcome was different in your home state? >> it's very much a function of state law, juliÁn. every state has a slightly different procedural posture when it comes to administering elections. so although the constitution controls the s
she's a professor at the university of michigan law school and msnbc contributor joyce vance. she's a professor at the university of alabama school of law. barb and joyce are a former university -- and co-host of the hashtag sister in law podcast. welcome to get both. joyce, the colorado plaintiffs are asking the supreme court to decide on trump's eligibility by february 11th, but they propellers or sent out. how soon arthur justice likely to take up this issue? >> you know, it's a great...
0
0.0
Dec 27, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor.or that devotion to our department of justice, joyce, you get the first question. these are really serious charges. not just for donald trump. the election cases are also about the integrity of our democracy yet voters across this country, lots of them seemed to shrug these charges off. you're a long time prosecutor. what do we need to know about these charges, how serious the, air and why people should care? >> yeah, it's such a great question because charges and indictments are only that. they are charges and all defendants are presumed innocent until they are proven guilty, convicted by a jury. so really what people need to appreciate is the importance of getting these things to trial. that's when the evidence kur is heard, it's one jury gets to reach a virgin verdict, and those verdicts all of importance for americans across the country especially as they head into the polls this year. >> let's talk about accountability. it's not just a matter of trump being brought to justice. you
attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor.or that devotion to our department of justice, joyce, you get the first question. these are really serious charges. not just for donald trump. the election cases are also about the integrity of our democracy yet voters across this country, lots of them seemed to shrug these charges off. you're a long time prosecutor. what do we need to know about these charges, how serious the, air and why people should care? >> yeah, it's...
0
0.0
Dec 2, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
it's violent. >> joyce vance, thank, you as always my friend. appreciate you.te court has decided to uphold convictions against former empire star, jesse smollett, for recording a fake hate crime back in 2019. the special prosecutor assigned to the case, telling nbc news, the court's decision is, quote, pretty much the end of the road for mr. smollett. after using his one right of appeal, and that the actors should finish out his 150-day jail sentence. the openly gay actor files the report being attacked by two men wearing ski masks, before authorities discovered he had paid them to stage the crime. want to bring back nbc's dasha burns, standing by for us in cedar rapids iowa. it seems as if that is now added behind you we can talk a little bit more clearly, dasha, thanks for sticking with us appreciated as always. you know spoke about this yesterday. there was some sparks flying right between governor gavin gavin newsom and ron desantis, who decided to debate on fox news. you have the back story as to why it ended abruptly and some drama that was happening beh
it's violent. >> joyce vance, thank, you as always my friend. appreciate you.te court has decided to uphold convictions against former empire star, jesse smollett, for recording a fake hate crime back in 2019. the special prosecutor assigned to the case, telling nbc news, the court's decision is, quote, pretty much the end of the road for mr. smollett. after using his one right of appeal, and that the actors should finish out his 150-day jail sentence. the openly gay actor files the...
0
0.0
Dec 6, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney and co-host of the sisters in law podcast, joyce vance, plus political strategist matt dowdi want to tie two threads together, as a scene is unfolding in nevada, one of the things we're reminded of is the fbi would be on the scene, that the fbi was there to add support. we talk about someone like kash patel potentially being the head of the fbi and serving at the hands of a man who said, given many tunes to say no, i don't have any dictatorial ambitions, no, actually took the bait and said day one. day one my priorities are the border and drilling, not dealing with any of the real problems that are unfolding in this country. >> well, you know, i'm really glad we're having this conversation because your past hour of heartbreaking reporting is directly related to what donald trump is envisioning for america. they're directly intertwined. at the basis of democracy, which donald trump and many of his supporters seem to want to throw away in order to get whatever the cult leader wants, the basis for democracy is ensuring the common good and reflecting the will of the people. thos
attorney and co-host of the sisters in law podcast, joyce vance, plus political strategist matt dowdi want to tie two threads together, as a scene is unfolding in nevada, one of the things we're reminded of is the fbi would be on the scene, that the fbi was there to add support. we talk about someone like kash patel potentially being the head of the fbi and serving at the hands of a man who said, given many tunes to say no, i don't have any dictatorial ambitions, no, actually took the bait and...
0
0.0
Dec 15, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining us is joyce vance, former united states attorney and professor of the university of alabama law school. an msnbc legal analyst and co-host of podcast sisters in law. tim o'brien joins us as well, senior executive editor for bloomberg nation. the art of being donald. he's a host of bloomberg podcast crash course. also an msnbc political analyst. joyce, let me start with you. and rudy giuliani in this case. i have to say, there are a lot of people eager to hear rudy giuliani on the stand today because she such an interesting character. donald trump was supposed to testify on monday in his case but he decided not to. rudy giuliani was was to decide in his case, he decided not to neither of these guys lawyers can seem to control them anyway, but what do you make of it. i think this is one way where the lawyers have been able to control. they've been able to keep these clients who hurt themselves every time they open their mouths off of the witness stand. in julien's case, whether he continues to try to say he's not responsible for what happened and that he was telling the truth beca
joining us is joyce vance, former united states attorney and professor of the university of alabama law school. an msnbc legal analyst and co-host of podcast sisters in law. tim o'brien joins us as well, senior executive editor for bloomberg nation. the art of being donald. he's a host of bloomberg podcast crash course. also an msnbc political analyst. joyce, let me start with you. and rudy giuliani in this case. i have to say, there are a lot of people eager to hear rudy giuliani on the stand...
0
0.0
Dec 2, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 1
joyce vance is back with. this thing to both of you to be here. let's talk about this, amy lee.has said she'll be ready to go around august-ish. but because of issues having to do with the appeals on the federal trial, the judge did ask, how much time we do need if this trial could go earlier? and the lawyer said about 30 days, which means this trial could be the first one. >> it could be, ali. it could be anytime between now and 2029. but when asked, the state said it would give about a 30-day jump to subpoena as witnesses, they have a trial run with that with the judge from appellate trials that simply didn't go forward. so they're ready to go. but you also know the countervailing claim of eastman who said listen, i just can't wait around until 2029 to do it. that led judge back feet down other roads like, would this be tried as two -- of defendants, would it be defended as a defense each, and probably possibly trot by himself. we came out with more questions than answers when it comes to the timing of the trial. >> let's talk about the first amendment business, joyce. in fact
joyce vance is back with. this thing to both of you to be here. let's talk about this, amy lee.has said she'll be ready to go around august-ish. but because of issues having to do with the appeals on the federal trial, the judge did ask, how much time we do need if this trial could go earlier? and the lawyer said about 30 days, which means this trial could be the first one. >> it could be, ali. it could be anytime between now and 2029. but when asked, the state said it would give about a...
99
99
Dec 29, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 99
favorite 0
quote 1
joining me now to discuss, joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney with another district of alabama and is now a professor at the university of alabama school of law. elie mystal is the newest corresponded for the nation, both joining me now. very excited to have you start off the show. joyce, i will start with this. i know you both of you have probably been pouring through the actual documentation here. what are the differences i guess perhaps in the laws being applied or the legal assumptions breeze. are there differences between what we have seen out of maine or colorado or they both based on the same principles? >> they're based on the 14th amendment principle of eligibility. but we do have this patchwork quilt of different decisions in different states which is why this will ultimately head to the supreme court. look, jason, maine is a little bit quirky. they have a different procedure than in colorado or minnesota. they start with the secretary of state, which is why shenna bellows got first crack at it. it won't be trident -- and that
joining me now to discuss, joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney with another district of alabama and is now a professor at the university of alabama school of law. elie mystal is the newest corresponded for the nation, both joining me now. very excited to have you start off the show. joyce, i will start with this. i know you both of you have probably been pouring through the actual documentation here. what are the differences i guess perhaps in the laws being applied or the legal assumptions...
0
0.0
Dec 4, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
., and i'm also joined by joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and law professor at the university of alabama. welcome to you both. lauren, what were the main take aways from today's arguments? >> it seemed like a difficult one from the justices. on the one hand, there's a dry legal question about whether bankruptcy judges have the power to sign off on this deal that would allow the sackler's off the hook for future claims. on the other hand, it came up in the argument, just as concerned about the practical impact, which is if they allow the settlement to go down, or they potentially blow up the settlement, is another one going to be negotiated? is that possible that that can still move forward at all, and then lurking in the background is this idea of if they don't accept this $6 billion offer from the sacklers, would anyone actually be able to sue the sackler family, many of whom live overseas, and actually get ahold of that money, and that's really open to question? >> before these arguments happened, there are good arguments on both
., and i'm also joined by joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and law professor at the university of alabama. welcome to you both. lauren, what were the main take aways from today's arguments? >> it seemed like a difficult one from the justices. on the one hand, there's a dry legal question about whether bankruptcy judges have the power to sign off on this deal that would allow the sackler's off the hook for future claims. on the other hand, it came up in the argument, just as concerned...
0
0.0
Dec 12, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining us now is joyce, vance former u.s.at the northern district of, alabama, joystick critic, see you thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having, me rachel. >> did i understand that correctly? >> no, i think you got it just right. michael jerry bin is the former deputy solicitor general might irresponsibility for criminal, that makes him a great pick for this case. >> now i know that you worked with mr. tree been, you know him professionally from all your u.s. and federal law enforcement, what should we understand about him other than a line on his resume in terms of his skills, or a bring citizen what jack smith might be using him and part of this case. >> right, so u.s. attorney says the job that i once held, have to go to the solicitor general for permission and a time the government wants to take an appeal on a criminal case. he was in charge of making those decisions, and that means he is considered every sort of criminal appellate situation that could come up. what you are talking, about the ripple for jud
joining us now is joyce, vance former u.s.at the northern district of, alabama, joystick critic, see you thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having, me rachel. >> did i understand that correctly? >> no, i think you got it just right. michael jerry bin is the former deputy solicitor general might irresponsibility for criminal, that makes him a great pick for this case. >> now i know that you worked with mr. tree been, you know him professionally from all your...
0
0.0
Dec 13, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance, former u.s.ttorney for the northern district of alabama, and now a professor at the university of alabama school of law. she joins me now. first of all, explain to me what the context is that we learn this information from jack smith's office about their plans to call this a named expert who has more this phone? >> sure. so this is the standard, a rule 16 disclosure, and the courts are described the prosecution has to tell a defendant in the court who their expert witnesses will be in some outline of what they were testify to, so we've learned not only this witness you have mentioned but two others who will talk about geolocation data and how the crowd and individuals moved from trump's speech on the ellipse that morning of january six over to the capital. >> much this wave going about, i guess i don't know the tech involved here, but i was pretty struck to see that they have an expert, presumably it's a government expert, as someone who is overseeing a attorney's office and prosecute a bunch of
joyce vance, former u.s.ttorney for the northern district of alabama, and now a professor at the university of alabama school of law. she joins me now. first of all, explain to me what the context is that we learn this information from jack smith's office about their plans to call this a named expert who has more this phone? >> sure. so this is the standard, a rule 16 disclosure, and the courts are described the prosecution has to tell a defendant in the court who their expert witnesses...
0
0.0
Dec 9, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joining me now is joyce vance former u.s.r at university about moscow of law. msnbc legal analyst and co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. joyce, always so happy to have you on the show, especially to get us started today. let's talk first about the decision by the d.c. circuit court of appeal concerning judge chutkan's gag order. north of us about the narrow limiting of it, because otherwise the entirety of that gag order pretty much stood. >> i think that is right. all of the important parts remain in place. you know, katie, sometimes we look at the back and forth in these trump cases like it is a ping-pong match going from one side to another. but really it is a much longer game, and it involves whether decisions by judges and ultimately chorizo verdicts get a firm vote of appeal. so looking at things from that point of view, this order the d.c. court of appeals has now written is a very much drafted in a way that makes the gag order -- when it hits the supreme court. the cork looked at judge chutkan's order says
joining me now is joyce vance former u.s.r at university about moscow of law. msnbc legal analyst and co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. joyce, always so happy to have you on the show, especially to get us started today. let's talk first about the decision by the d.c. circuit court of appeal concerning judge chutkan's gag order. north of us about the narrow limiting of it, because otherwise the entirety of that gag order pretty much stood. >> i think that is right. all of the...
0
0.0
Dec 28, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
want to bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and joyce vance, msnbc legal analyst.walk us through what happened here. >> reporter: good morning, yasmin. i'll defer the legal nuance to joyce. it is important to note they were in fact party to this lawsuit by those colorado voters. it was not just donald trump. so this appeal from the colorado republican party puts into effect the reality that donald trump's name will remain on the ballot in the state of colorado unless the u.s. supreme court agrees to hear this appeal, and then affirms the decision of the colorado supreme court disqualifying donald trump from the ballot in the state that would have far reaching impact beyond the state of colorado. but we're still expecting the legal team for donald trump to file their own appeal in the coming days. but this colorado appeal was actually written by the lawyer for the party, jay sekulow, a former attorney to donald trump himself. and is part of this appeal. he outlines that it is the first amendment rights of the political parties to determine who goes on to their prima
want to bring in nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard and joyce vance, msnbc legal analyst.walk us through what happened here. >> reporter: good morning, yasmin. i'll defer the legal nuance to joyce. it is important to note they were in fact party to this lawsuit by those colorado voters. it was not just donald trump. so this appeal from the colorado republican party puts into effect the reality that donald trump's name will remain on the ballot in the state of colorado unless the u.s....
0
0.0
Dec 22, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance is joining us as well. she's a former united states attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she's co-host of the podcast sisters in law. they're both msnbc legal analysts. i want to discuss the two supreme court matters with you. let's start andrew with you and the jack smith matter. jack smith's case that has gone to the supreme court. you and i were together when jack smith asked the supreme court to take this up in an expedited matter manner. they asked for a response from the trump team which they got on the 20th. they have now another response back from jack smith's team. where does that stand? >> as you pointed out, this may be just a matter of fighting it over a few days because the d. c. circuit has truly expedited its review with oral argument on january 9th. it's true we don't know when it will issue its decision but presumably because it is expedited this briefing and everyone will be staying up for the holidays rating breach to go to the d. c. circuit, they will issue
joyce vance is joining us as well. she's a former united states attorney and professor at the university of alabama school of law. she's co-host of the podcast sisters in law. they're both msnbc legal analysts. i want to discuss the two supreme court matters with you. let's start andrew with you and the jack smith matter. jack smith's case that has gone to the supreme court. you and i were together when jack smith asked the supreme court to take this up in an expedited matter manner. they asked...
0
0.0
Dec 20, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
vance, former u.s. attorney, professor at the university of alabama law school, and msnbc legal analyst and former democratic congresswoman jane harman, chair of the commission on the national defense strategy. so, vaughn, this decision is on hold until the 4th of january. what comes next for former president trump and what has been the reaction inside his world? >> his campaign indicated that they are going to swiftly appeal this here to have the supreme court take this up. there was a stay that it was part of this order from the colorado supreme court that keeps donald trump on the ballot with the expectation that the u.s. supreme court, by january 4th, by january 5th, will make the determination whether they will hear this appeal or not. with the expectation that they will hear the appeal, it is then a matter of what this timeline here looks like because for donald trump and frankly the rest of this republican field, jose, it is in their interest to have the supreme court make this ruling sooner rath
vance, former u.s. attorney, professor at the university of alabama law school, and msnbc legal analyst and former democratic congresswoman jane harman, chair of the commission on the national defense strategy. so, vaughn, this decision is on hold until the 4th of january. what comes next for former president trump and what has been the reaction inside his world? >> his campaign indicated that they are going to swiftly appeal this here to have the supreme court take this up. there was a...
0
0.0
Dec 22, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney, joyce vance.we should note the detroit news says this recording was made by someone present for the conversation but obtained through an intermediary who was not there. nbc news has not heard or verified the recordings. we've also reached out to spokespeople for former president trump and mcdaniel. what have we heard, ken, so far from them, and what can you tell us about this conversation? >> well, jose, they're not denying the substance of the reporting here, and in fact, what the trump campaign is saying is that then president trump at the time was acting as the president of the united states concerned about fraud in the election, but it's not clear that the reporting about what this tape suggests backs that up because what happened here, if you recall is that joe biden won this county by more than 150,000 votes, and there was a pro forma vote by the wayne county board of canvassers to certify those results, and two republicans balked, and they ended up voting for it, but then they were having s
attorney, joyce vance.we should note the detroit news says this recording was made by someone present for the conversation but obtained through an intermediary who was not there. nbc news has not heard or verified the recordings. we've also reached out to spokespeople for former president trump and mcdaniel. what have we heard, ken, so far from them, and what can you tell us about this conversation? >> well, jose, they're not denying the substance of the reporting here, and in fact, what...
0
0.0
Dec 19, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance, you as well. thank you both for joining us.nk, i'm going to ask you to stick around for another block. >>> the mystery of that white house binder with intelligence on russia that disappeared in the final days of the trump administration. it is another important reminder why the ex-president cannot be trusted with our secrets. >>> plus, the governor of texas signing an extreme anti-immigrant bill into law. the new law is being challenged today, calling it a sweeping violation of the united states constitution. later in the show, a decision from the colorado supreme court on whether donald trump is eligible to be running for president in 2024 will be out later today. it is a case that could upend all of politics for next year, one that could tell us who is on the ballot in november. that story and much more when "deadline: white house" continues after this. don't go anywhere. hey, grab more delectables. you know, that lickable cat treat? de-lick-able delectables? yes, just hurry. hmm. it must be delicious. i'm adding downy unstop
joyce vance, you as well. thank you both for joining us.nk, i'm going to ask you to stick around for another block. >>> the mystery of that white house binder with intelligence on russia that disappeared in the final days of the trump administration. it is another important reminder why the ex-president cannot be trusted with our secrets. >>> plus, the governor of texas signing an extreme anti-immigrant bill into law. the new law is being challenged today, calling it a...
0
0.0
Dec 29, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
joyce vance is a former attorney for the northern district of alabama. and a justice correspondent for the nation, both join me now. i'm very excited to have you all start-up the show. joyce, i'll start with this. i know both of you guyvise been pouring through the actual documentation here. what are the differences i guess perhaps in the laws being applied or the legal assumption theories? are there any differences between what we're seeing out of maine or what we saw out of colorado? or are they both basically based on the same principle? >> yeah, they are. they're based on the 14th amendment principle of eligibility, but we do have this patchwork quilt flow of different decisions in different states, which is why this will ultimately head to the supreme court. look, jason, maine is a little bit quirky. they have a different procedure than colorado does and than minnesota did. they start with the secretary of state which is why shenna bellows got the first crack at this decision. it will now be appealed into maine's superior court. that is their trial
joyce vance is a former attorney for the northern district of alabama. and a justice correspondent for the nation, both join me now. i'm very excited to have you all start-up the show. joyce, i'll start with this. i know both of you guyvise been pouring through the actual documentation here. what are the differences i guess perhaps in the laws being applied or the legal assumption theories? are there any differences between what we're seeing out of maine or what we saw out of colorado? or are...
0
0.0
Dec 29, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance weighing in on the decision by maine's secretary of state to remove donald trump from the 2024 republican presidential primary ballot. we're going to go through that decision and what could come next. >>> plus the latest from gaza as israeli forces strike refugee camps where it's believed hamas terrorists are hiding. it comes as the biden administration is putting more pressure on israel to protect civilians. also ahead republican presidential candidate nikki haley trying to clarify her response to the question about the cause of the civil war. we're going to show you what she said. >>> hey, everybody. good morning to you and welcome to "way too early" on this friday, december 29th. i'm yasmin vuceivian in for jonathan lemire. maine is now the second state to remove former president trump off the 2024 ballot. after receiving three separate challenges to trump's eligibility under maine state law, voters first filed complaints to the secretary of state, not the courts like in many other states. bellows' ruling can then be appealed, and that case would go before a ju
attorney joyce vance weighing in on the decision by maine's secretary of state to remove donald trump from the 2024 republican presidential primary ballot. we're going to go through that decision and what could come next. >>> plus the latest from gaza as israeli forces strike refugee camps where it's believed hamas terrorists are hiding. it comes as the biden administration is putting more pressure on israel to protect civilians. also ahead republican presidential candidate nikki haley...
0
0.0
Dec 23, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the local district of alabama now msnbc legal analyst.thank you for joining me. joyce, i'm eager to hear your sort of thoughts and analysis about the supreme court decision, and just how problematic it is potentially for that march 4th start date. >> yeah, i mean, i think that's the question, alex, and it's very hard to give a meaningful answer because there is so many moving parts and so many variables. this could just be a blip on the radar screen. it's possible that jack smith asked the supreme court to be prepared to take this case immediately, after the court of appeals decides it. so, in an optimistic view, the court of appeals could move quickly. a supreme court could jump right in, and there could be a fast decision. but that is far from a sure, and there is much, i think, for people who would like to see this case tried before the election, there is a much darker path where the court of appeals takes a little more time, trump expense the 45 days that he gets to ask for the re-hearing on bunk that he just asked for. he then gets 9
and joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the local district of alabama now msnbc legal analyst.thank you for joining me. joyce, i'm eager to hear your sort of thoughts and analysis about the supreme court decision, and just how problematic it is potentially for that march 4th start date. >> yeah, i mean, i think that's the question, alex, and it's very hard to give a meaningful answer because there is so many moving parts and so many variables. this could just be a blip on the radar...
0
0.0
Dec 21, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. we need your legal chops tonight. joyce, it has been over 20 years since bush v. gore. how has what is happening now different? i want you to put this whole thing in perspective. >> it's such a great question to start with because bush versus gore was decided 23 years ago and only one justice from that version of the supreme court is still on the court. that is clarence thomas, who has been fruit basket turnover and bush versus gore the court decided that case the day after they heard oral argument. the appreciated the importance of an election related issue and they did not take an ounce more time than they needed to reach a decision. so the country could move forward. that's the question that we are looking at here. will this court feel that same urgency? when they decide these cases quickly? some of these cases can go a little bit more slowly than others. the third of the cases, the determination about whether the obstruction statute applies, that one doesn't necessarily need to move at lightning speed. but these o
attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. we need your legal chops tonight. joyce, it has been over 20 years since bush v. gore. how has what is happening now different? i want you to put this whole thing in perspective. >> it's such a great question to start with because bush versus gore was decided 23 years ago and only one justice from that version of the supreme court is still on the court. that is clarence thomas, who has been fruit basket turnover and bush...
0
0.0
Dec 21, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. welcome to you both. ken, starting with you here. realistically, what does this mean, both the order and giuliani's filing for bankruptcy. what happens first? >> well, alex, the bankruptcy puts the judgment on pause, while a bankruptcy judge decides how to parcel out what's left of mr. giuliani's money. he's listing between $1,000,010,000,000 in assets and at least $152 million in liabilities, maybe more. bankruptcy won't save him from the $148 million debt. some debt can be wiped away, but a defamation judgment, stemming from willful and malicious acts is not one of them, it can't be. this judgment is likely to follow mr. giuliani for the rest of his life, despite the abrupt ly. and what remains of mr. giuliani's assets, including $6 million from an apartment in new york city up for sale. they may also be able to put a lien on future wages if he ever earns money again, alex. >> it is absolutely extraordinary, the fact that he keeps leaning into these falsehoods, even with the judgment against him. we heard him doing it outside the c
attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. welcome to you both. ken, starting with you here. realistically, what does this mean, both the order and giuliani's filing for bankruptcy. what happens first? >> well, alex, the bankruptcy puts the judgment on pause, while a bankruptcy judge decides how to parcel out what's left of mr. giuliani's money. he's listing between $1,000,010,000,000 in assets and at least $152 million in liabilities, maybe more. bankruptcy won't save him from the...
0
0.0
Dec 3, 2023
12/23
by
MSNBCW
tv
eye 0
favorite 0
quote 0
attorney joyce vance. she's a professor at the university of alabama school of law, and coasts host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. also with me, don calloway, president of pine street strategies and msnbc political analyst matthew tao. he's the author of country over party and former chief strategist for the 2004 bush presidential campaign. you know, matt dowd, i would ask you if you could believe that donald trump has the audacity to try to paint president biden as the threat to democracy, but i don't think anything surprises at this point, and yet it is a reminder of just how dangerous he is and just how many lies he's willing to spread. >> yeah. sigmund freud would have a field day with donald trump in the art of projection that he constantly does. i'm actually kind of surprised. usually, he smarter about these kind of things politically. because i actually think the biden campaign would welcome a debate on the threat to democracy as the key issue of this election as opposed to what people feel
attorney joyce vance. she's a professor at the university of alabama school of law, and coasts host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. also with me, don calloway, president of pine street strategies and msnbc political analyst matthew tao. he's the author of country over party and former chief strategist for the 2004 bush presidential campaign. you know, matt dowd, i would ask you if you could believe that donald trump has the audacity to try to paint president biden as the threat to...