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back with us to discuss this new development, joyce vance, former u.s.orney in the northern district of alabama. joyce, thank you for sticking around. i don't know much about fbi raids. they've never raided my house. thank you. but it just seems like usually they check all the locked doors, doesn't it? >> you know, the place that i most want to search is behind the locked door and in the hidden secret room. and the search warrants certainly covered them and because the search warrant was for a broad and permitted agents to search any rooms at mar-a-lago that trump and staff had access to, and where these documents, the classified material could have been stored. that would have clearly covered those spaces. >> it reminded me of the washington post reporting, i believe it was december 2022, that fbi field agents were initially reluctant to get involved with the mar-a-lago raid. there was tension between the executive branch of the fbi, if you will, and the field agents who would actually have to go into mar-a-lago. does this suggest to you that maybe they
back with us to discuss this new development, joyce vance, former u.s.orney in the northern district of alabama. joyce, thank you for sticking around. i don't know much about fbi raids. they've never raided my house. thank you. but it just seems like usually they check all the locked doors, doesn't it? >> you know, the place that i most want to search is behind the locked door and in the hidden secret room. and the search warrants certainly covered them and because the search warrant was...
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. -- joyce vance, former prosecutor and university of alabama law school.lso -- bloomberg opinion and other of trump nation. they are both msnbc analysts. joyce, i want to begin with the manhattan criminal trial which remains very much on track and is now without a doubt the very first criminal case that will be going to trial against donald trump. in a way it's extension of what we have already seen in the civil fraud trial, but this is a criminal business fraud that he is charged with to cover up payments to stormy daniels. >> you know, it is a criminal business fraud, but i've yet viewed it more akin to election interference case. this is donald trump's origin story. this is the first election for president, and what is happening, the access hollywood tape that is released, he's concerned about how women voters are viewing him, and so he tries to keep evidence of his payments -- he tries to keep evidence of his relationship with stormy daniels out of the hands of voters as they are preparing to go to the polls. he does that in essence by cooking books th
. -- joyce vance, former prosecutor and university of alabama law school.lso -- bloomberg opinion and other of trump nation. they are both msnbc analysts. joyce, i want to begin with the manhattan criminal trial which remains very much on track and is now without a doubt the very first criminal case that will be going to trial against donald trump. in a way it's extension of what we have already seen in the civil fraud trial, but this is a criminal business fraud that he is charged with to...
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attorney joyce vance. ken, to you first.t did the judges say in their very broad rejection of donald trump's broad claims of immunity? >> this three-judge panel consisting of two democratic appointees and one republican, they systematically demolished all of former president trump's arguments for why he should be immune from this prosecution and for why presidents in general can't be prosecuted. these judges found it's long been understood in the united states that presidents are not above the law. it's worth noting that this is the first time an appeals court has considered this question, because no former president has been indicted. they are making new law here. the judges wrote that former president trump's stance could collapse our system of separated powers by placing the president beyond the reach of all three branchs. presidential immunity, they added, against federal indictment would mean as to the president, the congress could not legislate and the judiciary could not review. we cannot accept the office of the pres
attorney joyce vance. ken, to you first.t did the judges say in their very broad rejection of donald trump's broad claims of immunity? >> this three-judge panel consisting of two democratic appointees and one republican, they systematically demolished all of former president trump's arguments for why he should be immune from this prosecution and for why presidents in general can't be prosecuted. these judges found it's long been understood in the united states that presidents are not...
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joyce vance is a former u.s.for the northern district of alabama, katie phang -- prosecutor in the state attorney's office in florida's miami-dade county, and of course now is the host of the katie phang show. on saturdays at noon here on msnbc. and lisa rubin here at the table -- on -- legal analyst. all right, so we've got this power team here, and i'm going to basically say, we will stipulate on the merits of this opinion, which is thorough and good and basically gets it right. i think we sort of all agree, i think we all thought that going in. the big question is, these procedural questions going forward. so, let me start with you lisa at the table here. about, what does specifically the court, the d.c. court hand the supreme court, in terms of you have till february 12th, and then what? >> so the question about what he has until february 12th to do, i think is a little bit poorly understood right now. he needs to file a motion for a stay, pending his petition -- which is a petition for supreme court review.
joyce vance is a former u.s.for the northern district of alabama, katie phang -- prosecutor in the state attorney's office in florida's miami-dade county, and of course now is the host of the katie phang show. on saturdays at noon here on msnbc. and lisa rubin here at the table -- on -- legal analyst. all right, so we've got this power team here, and i'm going to basically say, we will stipulate on the merits of this opinion, which is thorough and good and basically gets it right. i think we...
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joyce vance, you are wise, wise, wise. thank you for your time tonight, my friend. >> thanks, alex. >>> we have one more story for you tonight, where things stand as the u.s. prepares for retaliatory attacks in a drone strike in jordan that killed three u.s. service members. former cia director john brennen joins me after this break. joins me after this break. >>> so this is a dangerous moment in the middle east. we will continue to work to avoid a wider conflict in the region, but we will take all necessary actions to defend the united states, our interests, and our people. and we will respond when we choose, where we choose and how we choose. you know, i don't think that the adversaries are of a one and done mind-set. so they have a capability, i have a lot more. >> tensions are high in the middle east tonight as the u.s. repairs to deliver retaliatory strikes for the recent drone attack in jordan that killed three american service members and wounded more than 40 others. at this moment it's still unclear exactly what wi
joyce vance, you are wise, wise, wise. thank you for your time tonight, my friend. >> thanks, alex. >>> we have one more story for you tonight, where things stand as the u.s. prepares for retaliatory attacks in a drone strike in jordan that killed three u.s. service members. former cia director john brennen joins me after this break. joins me after this break. >>> so this is a dangerous moment in the middle east. we will continue to work to avoid a wider conflict in the...
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and want you to stay with me though because i want to bring in joyce vance, former federal prosecutor, now university alabama school of law professor, co-host of #sistersinlaw podcaster, b.c. news in msnbc legal analyst. also, jacqueline -- a congressional investigations report of the washington post, and nbc news contributor. it's a great panel. let's get going with it. joyce, trump lost his effort to delay enforcement of the 454 million dollar fine. he now owns that to new york state. this bill is racking up $111,000 in interest every single day. he is also seeking to delay pain 83 million that he owes the e. jean carroll. joyce, where can donald trump source this cash? does he have to put up his own money? either to pay the fine, or to file an appeal? >> that's exactly right. he only has two options. one is to go to a bail bondsmen, put up ten to 20%, whatever they'll take from him, and post the bond the traditional way. alternatively, he can do what he did after the first e. jean carroll case, where he pays the first 5 million into the court find. obviously, that's much more diffi
and want you to stay with me though because i want to bring in joyce vance, former federal prosecutor, now university alabama school of law professor, co-host of #sistersinlaw podcaster, b.c. news in msnbc legal analyst. also, jacqueline -- a congressional investigations report of the washington post, and nbc news contributor. it's a great panel. let's get going with it. joyce, trump lost his effort to delay enforcement of the 454 million dollar fine. he now owns that to new york state. this...
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joining me now, joyce vance, former u.s.ney in the northern district of alabama and professor at the university of alabama school of law. joyce, thank you for being here. i feel like for a long time, jack smith has been restrained, at least in the writing of a lot of these filings. this one, however seems to reveal a man frustrated. who do you think is the audience for this particular file? is it judge cannon, or is it maybe the 11th circuit court of appeals? >> you know, judge cannon is the audience for, i think, jack smith's increasing outrage this week. it's in this motion, it's in a squabble over potentially releasing the names of witnesses. federal prosecutors are very measured. there is always someone to read your motion before you file it. that was my job for a long time is the appellate even my office. something that i did was, i made sure that not even a hint of discourtesy crept into our pleadings when we found them in front of the federal judge. so you know that for this strident overtone to be used in a variety o
joining me now, joyce vance, former u.s.ney in the northern district of alabama and professor at the university of alabama school of law. joyce, thank you for being here. i feel like for a long time, jack smith has been restrained, at least in the writing of a lot of these filings. this one, however seems to reveal a man frustrated. who do you think is the audience for this particular file? is it judge cannon, or is it maybe the 11th circuit court of appeals? >> you know, judge cannon is...
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. >> joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s.d professor at the university of alabama school of law. she is co-host of the podcast sisters in law, and a msnbc legal analyst. joyce, we just heard from the governor that he talked to jack smith, told him everything that he told the grand jury in georgia. he sounds very much like a cooperating witness to the extent that he can be helpful. >> well, i think that is right. cooperating witnesses may not be the correct term here in the sense that we often think is cooperators as people who could have been defendants or have lots of evidence to give. but one thing that is clear is that camp has made a decision that his obligation is to the law. and lawrence, i think the interesting unknown here is whether or not kemp had communications directly with trump or with anyone else on his staff. we know that they were making calls encouraging people in a lot of different states not to certify the votes. so perhaps he is something more interesting to discuss then the public is aware of right now.
. >> joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s.d professor at the university of alabama school of law. she is co-host of the podcast sisters in law, and a msnbc legal analyst. joyce, we just heard from the governor that he talked to jack smith, told him everything that he told the grand jury in georgia. he sounds very much like a cooperating witness to the extent that he can be helpful. >> well, i think that is right. cooperating witnesses may not be the correct term here in the...
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here to cough our, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst and also the compost all the sisters in law podcast. ruth ben-ghiat, professor of history at new york university and author of strongmen, mussolini to the present. and mark joseph stern, a senior writer at slate where he covers the supreme court. thanks for joining us. i appreciate it. obviously the consensus is that the court will rule in favor of trump. that seems to be what everyone's saying. but i wonder what were your immediate, initial reactions following thursday. what came to your mind? >> i think that the big takeaway. we didn't know, going into this argument, where we thought the justices would line up. there was some thinking that might be a split along political lines. but it's seemed very clear there were seven, possibly even eight or nine, votes to reinstate trump onto colorado's ballot. interesting question is, what will they agree on? will they agree only on that result? will they agree on the reasoning that takes them there? there seem
here to cough our, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst and also the compost all the sisters in law podcast. ruth ben-ghiat, professor of history at new york university and author of strongmen, mussolini to the present. and mark joseph stern, a senior writer at slate where he covers the supreme court. thanks for joining us. i appreciate it. obviously the consensus is that the court will rule in favor of trump. that seems to be what everyone's saying. but i wonder what were...
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joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s.iversity of alabama school of law. she is co-host of the podcast sisters law, and msnbc legal analyst. and joyce, we are now in the public discussion of collecting from donald trump, that massive judgment, or what he has to do in order to proceed with an appeal. which is essentially to pay the judgment in advance. >> that's right. donald trump will have to get a bond that will secure the entire amount of this judgment against him. and letitia james, no one should mistake her softspoken, careful choice of words, for anything other than firm steel that is inside of her. she went after this case when people told her it couldn't be done. when she says she intends to collect this judgment no matter what legal process she has to put in place, i think we can believe her. she has a plan, she will execute that plan. and if trump is forced to sell some of his assets, or dissolve some of his assets to satisfy the judgment against him, then she will go to court to ensure that happens. >> so the se
joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s.iversity of alabama school of law. she is co-host of the podcast sisters law, and msnbc legal analyst. and joyce, we are now in the public discussion of collecting from donald trump, that massive judgment, or what he has to do in order to proceed with an appeal. which is essentially to pay the judgment in advance. >> that's right. donald trump will have to get a bond that will secure the entire amount of this judgment against him. and letitia...
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joining us now, joyce vance, law professor at the university of alabama. an msnbc legal analyst. what's the significance of this? what's on the line here? >> you know, this is just a mounting list of states that are willing to say that they believe former president donald trump should be removed from the ballot for participation in insurrection. i think it's unlikely it impacts the supreme court's ruling in any way. they will simply look at the legal arguments and render a decision, which most of us have been expecting to be in the former president's favor following oral argument. >> trump lost his initial bid for an appeals court to pause the over $450 million judgment he faces from the civil fraud trial. what happens next there? >> right. it's very interesting. trump in essence was trying to negotiate with the judge, saying i will give you $100 million, but i won't give you $450 million, with interest accumulating every day. of course, that doesn't work. the impact is pretty simple. trump can take an appeal without filing this bond, but while he is appea
joining us now, joyce vance, law professor at the university of alabama. an msnbc legal analyst. what's the significance of this? what's on the line here? >> you know, this is just a mounting list of states that are willing to say that they believe former president donald trump should be removed from the ballot for participation in insurrection. i think it's unlikely it impacts the supreme court's ruling in any way. they will simply look at the legal arguments and render a decision, which...
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attorney joyce vance, a legal analyst. you listened in. i'm curious to get your takeaways. >> i agree with neil and chuck and andrew. this is very likely a decision where donald trump wins. a 7-2, maybe 8-1 majority could even be unanimous. neil made this interesting point that i think is worth pursuing. the court seemed to be persuaded by a series of technical legal arguments that have to do with who would have to set section 3 of the 14th amendment in motion. justice kagan put it down in readily understandable terms when she told colorado's lawyer, look, you have to confront the issue of why colorado can make this decision for the rest of the country. that's a broad generalization, but i think she's right to put it that way. that was clearly on the minds of all of the justices. there wasn't really a response to that sort of a question. the problem that that leaves us with -- i'm interested in what everyone thinks about this. justice brown jackson asks a question at the end of the oral argument. she's asking, what happens if colorado lose
attorney joyce vance, a legal analyst. you listened in. i'm curious to get your takeaways. >> i agree with neil and chuck and andrew. this is very likely a decision where donald trump wins. a 7-2, maybe 8-1 majority could even be unanimous. neil made this interesting point that i think is worth pursuing. the court seemed to be persuaded by a series of technical legal arguments that have to do with who would have to set section 3 of the 14th amendment in motion. justice kagan put it down...
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joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and university of alabama law professor and msnbc legal analyst. josh, let me start with you. what exactly happened there today? >> reporter: well, chris, this is the end of the line and the last hope for julian assange in an extradition battle that spanned more than a decade now, including those seven years as you mentioned in ecuadorian embassy here. and in court today, assange's lawyers have been arguing that the judge should allow a full appeal to the british government's order that he be extradited back to the u.s. to face trial. based on really two buckets of arguments. first, they say he shouldn't be prosecuted in the first place, that essentially he's being prosecuted for political speech, that he is a journalist and a whistle-blower, not any type of a criminal. and that in fact the u.s. is trying to use this process to go after a political opponent. but they also have been making the argument as his wife stella assange did publicly today as well that this was also a
joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and university of alabama law professor and msnbc legal analyst. josh, let me start with you. what exactly happened there today? >> reporter: well, chris, this is the end of the line and the last hope for julian assange in an extradition battle that spanned more than a decade now, including those seven years as you mentioned in ecuadorian embassy here. and in court today, assange's lawyers have been arguing that the judge should allow a full appeal to...
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want to bring in from outside the supreme court is nbc's ken dilanian, joyce vance is a former u.s. in alabama and an msnbc legal analyst. lisa rubin on set with me and an msnbc legal correspondent. ken, start us off. we're waiting for these decisions. anything drop so far? >> not yet, yasmin. we don't know which one of them will drop. we're expecting to see this colorado decision. so interesting that in both of the cases you mentioned, you know, the plaintiffs are essentially asking the supreme court to make a hugely consequential decision that would affect the presidential election. we heard the arguments a couple of weeks ago, and it seems like there was a consensus among liberal and conservative justices that they were skeptical of the idea that donald trump should be excluded from the ballot in colorado and potentially elsewhere because he engaged in insurrection under the 14th amendment. liberal justice elena kagan sort of let the air out of the balloon when she first spoke during the arguments and said to the colorado plaintiffs, i think your problem is whether it's fair that
want to bring in from outside the supreme court is nbc's ken dilanian, joyce vance is a former u.s. in alabama and an msnbc legal analyst. lisa rubin on set with me and an msnbc legal correspondent. ken, start us off. we're waiting for these decisions. anything drop so far? >> not yet, yasmin. we don't know which one of them will drop. we're expecting to see this colorado decision. so interesting that in both of the cases you mentioned, you know, the plaintiffs are essentially asking the...
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. thank you for joining us. lisa, i want to start with you. i want to talk about the process of an appeal, right, because we need to get an appeal bomb, which you and i talked about when it comes to e. jean carroll which i don't think he's gotten so far. he's going to need to get an appeal bond when it comes to the decision from judge engoron. talk us through that process. >> so, yasmin, it works a little differently in the federal system than it is in the state system. in the e. jean carroll case, judgment was entered there on february 8th, and he has 30 days from that point to post that judgment. similarly here, though, he has 30 days from when the judgment was entered and the judgment was entered on the day the opinion came out last friday, february 16th. and you are correct to say that the entirety of that judgment needs to be posted in the form of an undertaking. so either he pays it or someone else pays it on his behalf. in new york, it's not atypical to have to put up an excess of the entirety of the judg
attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. thank you for joining us. lisa, i want to start with you. i want to talk about the process of an appeal, right, because we need to get an appeal bomb, which you and i talked about when it comes to e. jean carroll which i don't think he's gotten so far. he's going to need to get an appeal bond when it comes to the decision from judge engoron. talk us through that process. >> so, yasmin, it works a little differently in the federal system than...
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. good morning to you both. lisa, let's pause for a moment. this was shocking news to a lot of people, but let's talk about what this decision is and what it is not. it does not mean that the supreme court agrees that donald trump has presidential immunity. it means that they're going to hear the case, possibly that he does have immunity, and at least knock this down into the fall. >> that's right. willie, the way in which the order yesterday was phrased is also a little bit telling. the question that the supreme court has agreed to resolve is a narrow one. it is whether and, if so, to what extent, a former president has immunity for his official acts. or his official acts as alleged. one of the things that is concerning about the way the question is presented is alleged according to whom? if you ask jack smith, the way that the indictment is framed, none of the acts for which they are trying to hold former president trump criminally accountable were, in fact, official. that a president plays no official role in
attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. good morning to you both. lisa, let's pause for a moment. this was shocking news to a lot of people, but let's talk about what this decision is and what it is not. it does not mean that the supreme court agrees that donald trump has presidential immunity. it means that they're going to hear the case, possibly that he does have immunity, and at least knock this down into the fall. >> that's right. willie, the way in which the order yesterday...
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joyce vance, your thoughts on that? also, i'm curious, watching the testimony yesterday in atlanta, what did you make of the trump attorneys? did they seem prepared? did they seem, like, talented attorneys? >> so i'll take the second part of that first, mika. i mean, we saw a mixed bag yesterday. donald trump's lawyer, steve sado, when he questioned witnesses, was in a different vain than michael roman's lawyer. she was, as you pointed out, very surprised when fani willis took the witness stand. prosecutors are usually supposed to have thick skin. they're supposed to be professional in a courtroom. fani willis came in hot, and the lawyers for michael roman weren't prepared to deal with that situation. in some ways, willis' willingness to humanize herself and to jump out of her prosecutorial shoes a little bit and just to be a woman who had been wrongfully accused, i think showed some of the weaknesses in that defense team. it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. there are a lot of different defense lawyers. in t
joyce vance, your thoughts on that? also, i'm curious, watching the testimony yesterday in atlanta, what did you make of the trump attorneys? did they seem prepared? did they seem, like, talented attorneys? >> so i'll take the second part of that first, mika. i mean, we saw a mixed bag yesterday. donald trump's lawyer, steve sado, when he questioned witnesses, was in a different vain than michael roman's lawyer. she was, as you pointed out, very surprised when fani willis took the witness...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years at the federal prosecutor.rry, contributing writer for politico magazine. powerhouse panel, thank you all for being here tonight. joyce, i want to start with -- fani willis went -- what did you make of? it >> who is a lot of spectacle, but not very much substance, symone because the burden of proof is on the defendant here. the ones who raised the conflict of interest to establish that it exists. and, if we are going strictly on the evidence we heard today, i did not hear them meet that burden. it was obviously a tough day for fani willis and prosecutors are supposed to have thick skin and she shake things like this off. she came in a little bit hot and emotional but that was understandable given the sort of full-on discourse the judge permitted into her personal life, forcing her to explain things like her dad -- about money. i think the judge will look at the evidence and the hard calculation based on whether the defense -- and unless they've got more evidence tomorrow they do today. >> ankush, we heard a wit
attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years at the federal prosecutor.rry, contributing writer for politico magazine. powerhouse panel, thank you all for being here tonight. joyce, i want to start with -- fani willis went -- what did you make of? it >> who is a lot of spectacle, but not very much substance, symone because the burden of proof is on the defendant here. the ones who raised the conflict of interest to establish that it exists. and, if we are going strictly on the evidence we...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. joyce, you know in coming to first. we are getting deeper into primary season, and we still haven't seen an immunity decision. it now looks like judge aileen cannon is in no rush on the documents case. how concerned are you? >> look, the courts move slowly at the best of, times and these are not the best of times, stephanie ruhle. it's surprising we've not seen a decision from the court of appeals and the district of columbia yet, i think we all anticipated that. it doesn't necessarily mean there is a problem, these are just, judges three judges who have to reach a decision, together and sometimes that takes time. in my career as an appellate lawyer, it often took more than a year. here we are talking about a matter of weeks. as far as aileen cannon, goes the handwriting has been on the wall for a long, time that she will do everything she can to prevent trying this case before the election takes place. she has drawn out this process involved with classified discovery, and her decisio
attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. joyce, you know in coming to first. we are getting deeper into primary season, and we still haven't seen an immunity decision. it now looks like judge aileen cannon is in no rush on the documents case. how concerned are you? >> look, the courts move slowly at the best of, times and these are not the best of times, stephanie ruhle. it's surprising we've not seen a decision from the court of appeals and the district of...
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. >> joyce vance and andrew weissmann, thank you both very much for starting off our discussions tonight. thank you. >> thanks. >> coming up, republicans were in favor of banning in vitro fertilization. and now that alabama republicans have done it, republicans in the house and senate are lying about the records on that same issue. that's next, with senator tina smith. senator tina smith. nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪) sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand. and wakes up feeling like himself. get the rest to be your best with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪ sometimes, the lows of bipolar depression feel darkest before dawn. with caplyta, there's a chance to let in the lyte™. caplyta is proven to deliver significant relief across bipolar depression. unlike some medicines that only treat bipolar i, caplyta treats both bipolar i and ii depression. and in clinical trials, movement disorders and weight gain were not common. call your doctor about sudden mood changes, behaviors, or s
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also here in studio, lisa rubin and joyce vance. okay, lisa. what is said in this next hour or two could be huge. what should we know about terrence bradley and the importance of his testimony? >> terrence bradley is an extremely important witness because of two things. one, he was nathan wade's first divorce attorney and his law partner, but he also corresponded over text with mike romans' attorney. he's the attorney who brought this motion to disqualify willis on the basis of knowledge that his lawyer said that she had obtained from the divorce case from nathan wade before it was sealed and also other sources. to the extent that bradley gets into subject matter that wasn't covered before because it was covered by attorney client privilege, he could shed some light on when that relationship began that he wasn't able to last week. i should also note that bradley left wade's partnership under a cloud of suspicious because an employee of theirs had accused him of sexual misconduct. so the two witnesses here who said or could say things about the
also here in studio, lisa rubin and joyce vance. okay, lisa. what is said in this next hour or two could be huge. what should we know about terrence bradley and the importance of his testimony? >> terrence bradley is an extremely important witness because of two things. one, he was nathan wade's first divorce attorney and his law partner, but he also corresponded over text with mike romans' attorney. he's the attorney who brought this motion to disqualify willis on the basis of knowledge...
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joining me now is joyce vance, msnbc legal analyst, former u.s. attorney in alabama, and the co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. so joyce, let's start with trump and money because that's what he thinks makes the world go around, but he's hemorrhaging it at this point. the new york clerk formally recording that judgment ordering trump to pay 454 million in that new york attorney generals case, plus prejudge meant interest, plus daily interest. i mean, if he's going to appeal, joyce, he's going to have to post a bond that's 120% of that total judgment. by my math, that's about 600 and something million dollars, if you can find that with the e. jean carroll verdict. i mean, talk about how that bond actually is achieved. there's been some back and forth about his ability to appeal, absent being able to post that bond. >> he can always ask the court for modification, i suppose. but the reality is that like every other litigant, if donald trump wants to take an appeal, he's got to post an appeal. that's required by the rules of procedure. and
joining me now is joyce vance, msnbc legal analyst, former u.s. attorney in alabama, and the co-host of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. so joyce, let's start with trump and money because that's what he thinks makes the world go around, but he's hemorrhaging it at this point. the new york clerk formally recording that judgment ordering trump to pay 454 million in that new york attorney generals case, plus prejudge meant interest, plus daily interest. i mean, if he's going to appeal, joyce,...
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attorney, joyce vance, who spent 25 years since a federal prosecutor. carol, since i'm so happy to see you, you must go first. let's start with south carolina, what are you watching for? >> look, obviously, when nikki haley does after south carolina is what everybody is going to be watching for. she sent a bit of mixed singles signals about this. she gave the state of the race speech this week where she said she isn't for the long haul. and she walked it back, said look, we are going to south carolina, michigan, and then we are going to continue on just super tuesday, we haven't really thought beyond. good candidates say that all the time, and they're in the race until they are, not, and this is her home state. and i think those clips you showed, in dasha burns peace shows she's not navigating this decision in alabama very well. and she tends to step in. it she stepped in it and she keeps trying to clean it up. so it will be, i think, the question coming out of south carolina is not who wins, it is how much does she wind up losing, and what does she say
attorney, joyce vance, who spent 25 years since a federal prosecutor. carol, since i'm so happy to see you, you must go first. let's start with south carolina, what are you watching for? >> look, obviously, when nikki haley does after south carolina is what everybody is going to be watching for. she sent a bit of mixed singles signals about this. she gave the state of the race speech this week where she said she isn't for the long haul. and she walked it back, said look, we are going to...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor.ident best. i am going to first. people who not president biden about his age, are you -- losing his fastball, he always pushes back where the white house talks about what a scrappy fighter he is. could this report bring out that beast in biden that allow other people were hoping to see on the campaign trail? >> well stephanie, that was certainly the thinking of the white house when day decided for president biden to address this head on. he has given some remarks earlier in the day, within about an hour of us as we were really just beginning to come to grasp with what the special counsel road. but, obviously the biggest takeaway, especially for so many democrats across this country who have been so nervous about the president and his, age and the voters concerns about the presidents age in this campaign. the fact that the special counsel made such a point of highlighting these memory lapses of calling him elderly was a concern that the white house decided maybe it's to address head-on
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attorney joyce vance.iche, donald trump's attacks against spouses, a husband who is in the military, but it doesn't seem to bother him, even in south carolina, which is a very heavily veteran state. >> it does underscore the fact that former president trump has been able to get away with things no other politician has. not only is he going after nikki haley's husband, who is literally deployed in africa, but he got after john mccain. he went after the gold star family. nikki haley, while you would think this would give her momentum, she's trailing by more than 30 points. this is giving her fire. she's going after donald trump in a way we have not seen her go after him before. she's releasing an ad that's focusing on this issue. whether it will win her election, all signs point to the fact that nikki haley unfortunately for her is going to lose. i came back from georgia where i was talking to a number of voters. they say the same thing, they would like to see nikki haley, even democrats who are angry or dis
attorney joyce vance.iche, donald trump's attacks against spouses, a husband who is in the military, but it doesn't seem to bother him, even in south carolina, which is a very heavily veteran state. >> it does underscore the fact that former president trump has been able to get away with things no other politician has. not only is he going after nikki haley's husband, who is literally deployed in africa, but he got after john mccain. he went after the gold star family. nikki haley, while...
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. >> joyce vance and andrew weissmann, thank you both very much for starting off our discussions tonight. thank you. >> thanks. >> coming up, republicans were in favor of banning in vitro fertilization. and now that alabama republicans have done it, republicans in the house and senate are lying about the records on that same issue. that's next, with senator tina smith. tina smith. with nurtec odt i can treat and prevent my migraine attacks all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion and stomach pain. talk to your doctor about nurtec today. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis takes you off course. put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when i wanted to see results fast, rinvoq delivered rapid symptom relief and helped leave bathroom urgency behind. check. when uc tried to slow me down... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when uc caused damage rinvoq came through by visibly repairing my colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief... lasting stero
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. welcome. let's get to some of the legal deadlines.re some interesting ones for today and tomorrow. first up on the colorado supreme court battle, the plaintiffs in that case asked the court to rule by today, so that is unlikely to happen. when do you think we could see that decision come through as super tuesday approaches? on what points do you expect the justices to find agreement? >> well, these sorts of deadlines are always up to the justices themselves. there are no rules covering when they have to issue an opinion by. we know that the supreme court can move very quickly when it wants to. it has done that in other election related cases in the past. not out of the question that we might see something today, extraordinarily unlikely. it would be inconsistent with how they typically release opinions. when the court does rule, based on reading the tea leaves at oral argument, it seems almost certain that donald trump will remain on the ballot. that may be why the court has not been any particular hurry to rule. that would permit the
attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. welcome. let's get to some of the legal deadlines.re some interesting ones for today and tomorrow. first up on the colorado supreme court battle, the plaintiffs in that case asked the court to rule by today, so that is unlikely to happen. when do you think we could see that decision come through as super tuesday approaches? on what points do you expect the justices to find agreement? >> well, these sorts of deadlines are always up to the...
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joyce vance, thank you so much. appreciate you. in the meantime, he almost never hear from them. two supreme court justices spoke friday night about whether they feel beholden to the president who nominated them. you're going to hear what they said. they said. >>> a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome again to alex witt reports. we begin this hour -- gop primary, nikki haley is heading to michigan today ahead of tuesday's primary there. promising to remain in the race against all odds. while donald trump, facing another week of steep legal hurdles. hailing -- former president getting nearly 60% of the vote, and the former south carolina governor nearly 40%. after the early call of defiance -- from both. >> in certain countries are allowed to call your election day, if i had the right to do it i'd call it tomorrow. i say we're having it tomorrow. >> we're headed to michigan tomorrow. and we are headed to the super tuesday states throughout all of next week. we will keep fighting for america, and we won't rest until america winds. >>
joyce vance, thank you so much. appreciate you. in the meantime, he almost never hear from them. two supreme court justices spoke friday night about whether they feel beholden to the president who nominated them. you're going to hear what they said. they said. >>> a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome again to alex witt reports. we begin this hour -- gop primary, nikki haley is heading to michigan today ahead of tuesday's primary there....
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joining me right now, joyce vance former u.s. attorney now law professor at the university of alabama, school of law. she's also an nbc news and nbc legal analyst and co-host of the sisters ahmaud cast. and look at you here, we have joy reid, host of the read out on -- she's also the author of the new book medgar and are merkley, medgar evers and the love story that awakened america. i've read excerpts, i'm so excited to talk to you about it. but first, joyce. we're gonna do the legal thing. trump is looking at astronomical legal fines and fees. just from the recent lawsuits he's filed and all those lawsuits have been filed against him. what actual math you think he's going to need to put up to appeal the latest ruling from judge engoron? >> astronomical is right. alex it's not just the amount of judgment, he's also got to pay pre judgment interest on the amount that was awarded's. that means he's looking at someplace just north of 400 and $55 million as a total amount the bond that will be required if he wants to pursue an appea
joining me right now, joyce vance former u.s. attorney now law professor at the university of alabama, school of law. she's also an nbc news and nbc legal analyst and co-host of the sisters ahmaud cast. and look at you here, we have joy reid, host of the read out on -- she's also the author of the new book medgar and are merkley, medgar evers and the love story that awakened america. i've read excerpts, i'm so excited to talk to you about it. but first, joyce. we're gonna do the legal thing....
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. >> you look at the two cases today that we're looking atkest case brought against donald trump. do you agree that the manhattan case may be the weakest and one that many legal experts believe should not have been brought against donald trump? >> let me start with manhattan. i don't think weak is the right word. weak in my mind describes the state of the evidence. i think it's probably the least serious case. you could have a very serious case, a homicide, and have weak evidence. you could have a less serious case like the one brought against mr. trump in manhattan and have strong evidence. so i'm a little surprised that's called weak, when i actually think of it as less serious. nevertheless, they're felonies. he's been charged with 34 of them, and they have serious consequences, including possible incarceration. in terms of the atlanta case, mr. trump and 18 others charged with numerous felonies and to falsify business records and documents connected to the election. very serious hearings over today and tomorrow to determine whether or not
attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance. >> you look at the two cases today that we're looking atkest case brought against donald trump. do you agree that the manhattan case may be the weakest and one that many legal experts believe should not have been brought against donald trump? >> let me start with manhattan. i don't think weak is the right word. weak in my mind describes the state of the evidence. i think it's probably the least serious case. you could have a very serious...
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vance who spent 25 years as a prosecutor. mark, you know this court very well. were you surprised how skeptical all the judges team to be when it came to keeping trump off this ballot? >> i certainly wasn't surprised the conservative justices were skeptical of the argument of colorado voters challenging trump. i wasin really surprised that t liberal justices especially ketanji brown jackson jumped on the attorneyja arguing against trump to say, you know, i think that you've got the history wrong, i think you've got the text wrong and really embracing one of the most far reaching legal theories one of trump's attorneys have put forward to the court. justice thompson gets a lot of flack from the right but of all theht justices nobody pushed harder to show or at least to claimat the 14th amendment's disqualification clause doesn't apply to the president. that was her belief and she really stuck to her guns. so, yeah, it was a surprising day. going in i thought 6-3, maybe 7-3 for trump, now i think maybe 8-1 or maybe even 9-0. >>
vance who spent 25 years as a prosecutor. mark, you know this court very well. were you surprised how skeptical all the judges team to be when it came to keeping trump off this ballot? >> i certainly wasn't surprised the conservative justices were skeptical of the argument of colorado voters challenging trump. i wasin really surprised that t liberal justices especially ketanji brown jackson jumped on the attorneyja arguing against trump to say, you know, i think that you've got the...
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance and neal katyal, jonathan lemire and mike barnicle are back the trial date to an area that goes beyond the election? or do you think the supreme court might act quickly? >> right. so i think this is all in the supreme court's hands now, mika. as you point out, although donald trump loses resoundingly, he does not have presidential immunity that prevents his prosecution, for trump it's a matter of days and weeks and months and putting this case off until it can't be tried and he can't be convicted before the election. so the supreme court has options here and one would be when trump files his request that they continue to prevent anything from moving forward in front of the trial court while the appeal is under way. he has until monday to do that. the supreme court could treat that as his request for them to hear the appeal, they could act on t they could set an expedited briefing schedule and we know that the supreme court can move quickly when it wants to. it's doing that tomorrow morning when it hears the 14th amendment argument from colorad
attorney and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance and neal katyal, jonathan lemire and mike barnicle are back the trial date to an area that goes beyond the election? or do you think the supreme court might act quickly? >> right. so i think this is all in the supreme court's hands now, mika. as you point out, although donald trump loses resoundingly, he does not have presidential immunity that prevents his prosecution, for trump it's a matter of days and weeks and months and putting this case...
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attorney joyce vance and back with me at the table msnbc legal correspondent lisa ruben.o say time is of the essence, an understatement. your sense of when jack smith gets this done? >> probably before the end of the week. the justices have a day on their calendar for -- expressly marked off as a conference day. that's going to be at the very least a day where the justices get together and talk about cases they could hear. if you're jack smith because a reply from donald trump is not called for, you want that brief in before that conference and allow the justices an opportunity to potentially act on donald trump's stay motion by the end of the week. that doesn't necessarily mean they will, but that they could. >> talk about what could happen. what else could happen? >> they could order a reply brief from trump or trump asks for a reply. they could take their time and wait until the deadline and then hold it over until they're ready to make a decision. i looked at some past stays involving donald trump. one thing i found is in the case where donald trump was litigating wit
attorney joyce vance and back with me at the table msnbc legal correspondent lisa ruben.o say time is of the essence, an understatement. your sense of when jack smith gets this done? >> probably before the end of the week. the justices have a day on their calendar for -- expressly marked off as a conference day. that's going to be at the very least a day where the justices get together and talk about cases they could hear. if you're jack smith because a reply from donald trump is not...
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vance said, the stars and moon and sun have to all align. and everything has to come the into play for there to be a trial where the facts will actually matter and we don't have donald trump just spinning the public. which is an extra oshd nar position. the supreme court has sided with donald trump on this case. it's obviously going to side with him in the colorado case. and to the point that liz cheney was asked about what could we expect, obviously, joe biden won the election and donald trump could stil win, but i really don't have hope as to who would endorse the constitutional mechanism that there are only two terms. is it going to be congress? they same to be fairly ineffect yule when it comes to impeachment. it was going to be the supreme court, the supreme court just issued a stay in this case, but that actually reaching any legal conclusions that you need to reach a stay. they basically kept the judge's case on ice, but they didn't do any of the things that the law requires to find that a stay is appropriate. you're supposed to go th
vance said, the stars and moon and sun have to all align. and everything has to come the into play for there to be a trial where the facts will actually matter and we don't have donald trump just spinning the public. which is an extra oshd nar position. the supreme court has sided with donald trump on this case. it's obviously going to side with him in the colorado case. and to the point that liz cheney was asked about what could we expect, obviously, joe biden won the election and donald trump...
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attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, former assistant tierney for the district of columbia,he is an msnbc legal analyst. former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. okay, let's begin. left to right, how about that? we have so many great legal minds here. joyce, i'll start with you. the conventional wisdom seemed to be after mr. weights testimony, some said that this case was dead because of inconsistencies and the way that they were describing the relationship because of the previous testimony. there's sadie, no, they were dating a long time before this. maybe this was an improper relationship. the d.a. willis's testimony, after mr. waits, do anything to change your mind about that? >> it may have changed the public impression of the hearing, but from the get-go, this was about whether the defendant could prove a conflict of interest existed under georgia law. that warranted disqualification for fani willis. at least based on what we've heard yesterday, maybe they'll have more today. they came up short, they came up short and waits testimony, the witness, the
attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, former assistant tierney for the district of columbia,he is an msnbc legal analyst. former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. okay, let's begin. left to right, how about that? we have so many great legal minds here. joyce, i'll start with you. the conventional wisdom seemed to be after mr. weights testimony, some said that this case was dead because of inconsistencies and the way that they were describing the relationship because...