the show came about because kathy lee gifford is one of my mom's closest friends and when she would stay she would just laugh and say you are a reality show. what you're talking about fighting about, how you live your life, this has to be a reality show. we called ryan seacrest, got connected to him. met with that network and our show was on the air. i think we were a filler show for a show that fell out of production and they needed something quickly. we just started filming. we thought we would be on for one season or two seasons and we did 20 seasons of keeping up with the kardashians, 10 spinoffs, and now filming season number four of the kardashians which is basically the same thing just on streaming. david: when i was nine years old i wanted to be a major-league baseball player. that did not work out. usually when you want something when you're young, it doesn't work out but i guess it worked out for you and your sisters. kim: they did not want to do it but i talked them into it. i said this would be the best promotion for clothing stores. we should consider this and that got them