look, the president has some personal disagreements with brian kemp and brian kemp has some personal disagreements with the president but they are both big enough to put country over personal interest. what they will both say is, and i think that people from across the political spectrum should take something from this. that brian kemp is willing to say, this country is so important and we can't let kamala harris become its president. and it is important that donald trump, despite the fact he has disagreements with a number of people who have endorsed him, he is willing to say, we are the big tent party. we stand for common sense and saturday and we have to kick that and saying a politician named kamala harris out of the white house. -- kick that insane politician named kamala harris out of the white house. reporter: cbs news. i have two questions for you. one, can you tell us more about the altercation that happened at the arlington cemetery? two, what does debate prep look like for yourself and trump at this time? sen. vance: first, the altercation at arlington cemetery is the medi

look, the president has some personal disagreements with brian kemp and brian kemp has some personalisagreements with the president but they are both big enough to put country over personal interest. what they will both say is, and i think that people from across the political spectrum should take something from this. that brian kemp is willing to say, this country is so important and we can't let kamala harris become its president. and it is important that donald trump, despite the fact he has disagreements with a number of people who have endorsed him, he is willing to say, we are the big tent party. we stand for common sense and saturday and we have to kick that and saying a politician named kamala harris out of the white house. -- kick that insane politician named kamala harris out of the white house. reporter: cbs news. i have two questions for you. one, can you tell us more about the altercation that happened at the arlington cemetery? two, what does debate prep look like for yourself and trump at this time? sen. vance: first, the altercation at arlington cemetery is the media

he tried to get kemp fired and said, let's draw early on and floods. is that helping republicans win georgia? >> no i think the best way to win georgia's for governor kemp to align with president trump, take his ground game and give it to president trump. focus on the dangers of a harris presidency. again, we're reaping what has been sown for four years we've got to stop these policies that are killing us at home and abroad. so i expect, and i'll talk to governor kemp tomorrow. i'll let you know how it goes. i hope were you united in georgia. we can't afford to lose the best thing for georgia if you love georgia and i live in south carolina. i love my friends in georgia. the best thing for georgia's for donald trump to be president united states and firework, i'm layers, but don't you think you should talk to donald trump and not brian kemp because it seems like this is going talked to both of them. i tell so. you know, he's obviously upset that they didn't support him can't was upset that he supported his opponent. i get that. that happens in both par

you just did there, i mean, he was calling him little brian kemp. >> yeah. he said they don't want the vote to be honest in my opinion, they want us to lose the election. that's my opinion. >> yeah. >> i don't you know, i think we're going to have a good, honest foden, georgia j.d vance said that we've made changes in georgia mail-in voting did hurt us. you know, covid that consent decree that rasenberger entered into a stacey abrams did it make any sense to me but i certified the election results in 2020. and here's what i think about 20:24. i think it is our election to lose david axelrod is right. it really is president trump's election to lose. people are hurting at home in their hurting domestically, the world is on fire inflation of a broken border. things are not going well, here and kamala harris, everything. she's touched, his really just just turned a crap for lack of a better way to say it. and she's never going to fix anything. she shapiro. i'm sure he's a great guy. you're making the argument against that, don't change policy. her policies, but

brian kemp is in an incredibly popular governor. tia knows as she covered him when he ran, he even had some conservative democrats who crossed over and voted for him. you don't typically see that with republicans and he's going to need, trump is going to need him to help. and south georgia, the more rural parts of the state where donald trump performs very well with those types of voters, kemp can go down their talk to those voters and turn them out i'm not certain that the harris-walz campaign believes that they're going to win georgia necessarily by going down south but what i do think they're attempting to do is forced to trump campaign to spend money in areas where they shouldn't actually be strong. what that said though, having camp, camp back on the team, i think propels the former president forward. it's one thing to run the race against joe biden, who does well with non-college educated whites we have seen some of the data that suggests kamala harris is still struggling with those types of voters. does walz help? i'm not con

and amazingly it appears governor kemp might actually think about doing that. governor kemp's office today says he is seeking advice from the state attorney general about whether as governor he has the authority to take somebody off the georgia election board. as these trump republicans have tried effectively a brazen takeover of the election's infrastructure of this state, the pushback has now become ferocious and quite interesting. there is an emerging sense in georgia and beyond that these trump loyalists who took over that state elections board may have just gone too far. already this month they passed new rules that add requirements for certifying the evote that let any member of a koumty board demand reams of documents as an excuse to avoid certifying an election. now the board has cued up 11 more suggested rules for georgia counties to follow, 11 more changes in the way georgia administers elections, changes about absentee ballots and counting ballots by hand. the board plans to vote on these changes next month, and then they say they want to roll them o

vance has been on the phone with brian kemp. this week.blicly came out and said very forcefully that brian kemp is in their camp what could have happened to get trump to make this turnaround? >> because i think we all sort of got around him please stop your fight with brian kemp. we need georgia. i think that's what ultimately happened. i think the message finally hit through that georgia's a critical state for us to win, wasting resources or time or energy on having an internal fight at this critical time is a waste of your time, mr. president, and it's a waste of all of our else's times as we're trying to achieve this goal. and i looked like the message finally got through this week. >> right but next week looks do you think that this is predicated on brian kemp having to do something to behave in a particular way towards i don't think it's behavior to particular way, but it's execute like he's the governor of his state, its republican state for a very long time. >> he needs to make sure that the apparatus works. i think the criticism th

later, brian, little brian kemp despite that kemp is still endorsing the former president well, there was a little distraction obviously on on their side when it came to georgia, but to me that's in the past. >> i've been saying that guy's literally for over a year now that i was going to support our nominee, that we had to win georgia the road in the water white house runs through georgia. and i still believe today we cannot afford four more years of kamala harris we want to discuss with bobby sapper rowe. >> he's governor kemp's former campaign manager, bobby. thank you so much for being with us. i first want to start with a new fox news poll that has kamala harris, leading donor donald trump in your state by two points, though that's within the margin of error. what do you think will ultimately determine where georgia lands on election night? >> yeah, i think it's important to notice someone who works on campaigns that i've you polls more as trends, less than fact so obviously it's trending that kamala harris has made this a serious race. and georgia's a very tough state for either

governor kemp was there helping us take back the senate.er husband jeff raised a million dollars and when he spoke the first thing out of his mouth, he looked up at everybody in the room and said i want donald trump to win georgia, i'm all in for donald trump. i'm going to give him my political machine. i've got a great ground game and i put money behind it and we are going to win georgia for trump because harris is a disaster for georgia. i talked to the first lady and the governor privately. we are back in track in georgia and all looking forward and with kemp and trump working together, taking kemp's ground game and president trump's vision, we are going to win georgia. i feel so much better today than i did last week. the best days are ahead for georgia. >> sean: that says a lot for governor kemp. i don't really know him that well but my friends in georgia, good for him. the thing is i'm sure they agree on 85, 90 print it -- percent of the issues. we are 40 days away from early voting. we don't have time for this. this is a real threat

governor kemp. he is wildly popular in the state, so he could use all the support he can get going into november right now this may not be the way to get that support from brian kemp, but we'll see kristen holmes. >> thank you very much on this subject, the harris campaign has launched repeated hubble of gins for harris. that's a push to real and republican voters who may be put off by trump, their main targets probably the people who voted for nikki haley in the primaries, a group of high profile republicans are former republicans have joined that movement. one of those republicans are former republicans, the former governor of new jersey, christine todd whitman, who is with us now governor. thank you so much for being with us. i just want to play a smidge more of donald trump's attack on the popular republican governor of georgia brian kemp. listen but camp doesn't want to end it because he's a bad guy. he's a disloyal guy, and he's a very average governor. later, brian, little. brian kemp bad guy

first the republican governor of georgia, brian kemp, did something interesting. he made a request to the attorney general asking for clarification if he has the power to remove members of the elections board if it's warranted by ethics concerns. that is fascinating. we'll see what the attorney general says to that inquiry. i inspect it will be quickly. if brian kemp decides to remove the pro-trump board members upending the election process weeks before the election, wow. i don't know, watch this space. that would be a very big deal. that's one big thing that happened today. also late today, a new lawsuit was filed from the democratic party of georgia and the national democratic party. they say with support from the harris/walz campaign. as of tonight, they are suing the state election board in georgia to stop them from what they've been doing. the democrats' big new lawsuit filed tonight asks georgia state courts to make clear that local trump loyalist officials don't get to make it up as they go when it comes to certifying the election results, no matter what t

attacked the states republican secretary of state and republican governor who is very popular, brian kemp who both refused to go along with trump's lie that he won the state in 2020. >> brian kemp, your governor, who i got elected, by the way. very disloyal person. very disloyal, they are doing everything possible to make 2024 difficult for republicans to win, you can do a lot better and you will do a lot better with a better governor, the state has become a laughing stock. he's a bad guy, he's a disloyal

first, the republican governor of georgia, brian kemp, did something very interesting. he made a request to the state attorney general asking for clarification, asking if he is governor has the power to remove members of the state elections board if it is warranted by ethics concerns and that is fascinating. we will see what the attorney general says in response to that query from the governor. i expect the attorney general's response will likely come quickly if brian kemp does decide to remove these pro trump election board members who have upended the process just weeks before the presidential election. wow. i don't know. watch this space and it would be a big deal. and it's one very big thing that happened today but also late today, a new lawsuit was filed from the democratic party of georgia and the national democratic party who say with support from the harris-walz campaign, as of tonight, they are suing the state election board in georgia to stop them from what they have been doing. the democrats big new lawsuit filed tonight asks georgia state courts to make clea

kemp: a lot. after this we are going to fly to the savannah airport, get on helicopters with the agricultural commissioner. we are going to fly and see a lot of the flood damage. it was mainly a water event after the first evening when the storm came up from florida, came through. there was a good bit of power out at one time, 50,000 to 60,000, i think. they got that back on relatively quick after the first wave of the storm went through. after that, the winds were a lot more tolerable, but the rain kind of came down. one track was going to take the storm out off the coast of savannah, regain strength, and it was going to boomerang and hit savannah again a day or two earlier. the second cycle really pounded south and north carolina with rain. we had places like statesboro, scriven county, and others that had over a foot of rainfall in a short amount of time, which created dams busting, which created homes below those dams getting washed away, being underwater. there is significant damage to -- we

kemp is very bad for the republican party.hese policies, atlanta is like a killing field and your governor ought to get off his ass and do something about it. he's a bad guy, he's a disloyal guy, and he's a very average governor. little brian kemp. bad guy. but think of it. i got this guy. just think. and then that's it. i got this guy nominated and then elected. without me he doesn't get nominated and he doesn't get elected. he's a bad guy, and he's not doing this country a good service. people are looking at georgia with fawnny and her lover and all of the other things, saying what the hell is going on in georgia, what the hell is going on. the radical left democrats rigged the presidential election in 2020, and we're not going to let them rig the presidential election in 2024. >> governor kemp responded on social media, writing in part, my focus is winning on november, not engaging in personal petty insults. you should do the same, mr. president, and leave me family out of it. we should note between harris's democratic tick

and kemp's wife.trump slammed georgia's first family and said he didn't want their endorsement. he also accused them of being the reason he was indicted in fulton county's interference rico case. and at his atlanta rally, trump kept railing against governor kemp. he also started going on and on about the election potential he not being fair and doing all of that stuff. >> being rigged, meaning he is starting to feel the pressure, of possibly losing. >> you get the sense that this candidate wants to question the results of the election if it doesn't go his way. let's not miss the point. >> let's bring in policer reporter for the "atlanta journal constitution." greg, we talk about the disaffected republican voters in the northern suburbs of atlanta. i think you brought up the southern suburbs of atlanta, as well. tell us, put it in perspective, how popular governor kemp is with republicans as well as democrat, and also what republicans who felt burned by donald trump in 2020, again in 2022, how republic

kemp kemp absolutely it's going to matter. our team on the ground working hard.orked spoke to reed faith and freedom yesterday. i know they are spending a lot of money voters of faith out to the polls, other groups are doing that but it's imperative that we are combating them on the ground. i don't -- you know, i can't verify, you know, what the trump campaign is doing or the harris campaign is doing. they are saying a lot of things, but, i would say that operation here that they once had back in 2018, i don't think is as intact as it was. but they definitely have a lot of momentum coming out of the convention. and we got to fight through that. get the race to stabilize which i think you are seeing now in the national polls, and after labor day, going into the debate, the race is going to reset. and we need to be laser focused on her record and what donald trump did when he was president. let people decide do they want four more years of this high cost or do they want a different direction in our country? >> brian: you know, what's interesting is one thing presid

is that trump calls kemp and asked him to find 11,000 votes. it was not until this rally that i understood the call. the call was can you make the call to start the investigation to see if votes had been lost. i can understand why trump, who used his political promise to help them get into office would be offended at the fact that kemp would not help him at least investigate something he felt had gone wrong in terms of being reelected. i don't see anything wrong with trump personally feeling attacked or like kemp was disloyal for not making the call to start an investigation. additionally, he spoke in atlanta, and as a resident of atlanta, i can see that our crime rates are rampant, i can speak to the fact that people do not want to go out anymore because they fear getting shot. i can tell you that kids no longer walk to the park or hang out at this getting drink or anything like that because crime is an issue. what more can our governor do about it? i would not know because it seems like a mayoral issue. however, he can try to shine a light on

and governor brian kemp has made it very clear that he wants to win. only thing i would say is that brian kemp doesn't need donald trump and say the doors donald trump means brian kemp. >> i'm sara kamala harris has her first sit down interview with a journalist since becoming the democratic presidential nominee six weeks ago. and that'll be right here on cnn later this evening with our very own dana bash. how high are the stakes with this exclusive interview? and what does harris nice to say about the economy? immigration, reproductive rights, and other issues, of course, to send a clear message about her policies. and what does she need to avoid well, first of all, rosemary congratulations to cnn for you all being able to secure to what i believe would be this very game changing historic interview. >> dana bash and yourself are two of my favorite journalists. you guys do a great job of interviewing people. you guys have very fair and direct. i am not worry about the vice president's ability to answer the question, what you'll see is a very detail in

. >> georgia governor brian kemp was also at the conference.mself to be the target of trump's attacks during a rally in georgia over the weekend and at trump's press conference just yesterday. governor kemp kept mum on that, reiterating he will support the republican nominee, despite the quote, noise from the campaign trail. this is all happening as polling from the aarp show harris and trump tied among likely voters in georgia. joining us now. senior political reporter at the atlanta constitution, greg blue stein. this fascinating paradox of being a republican in the trump era. they're on board for the party but not really for the nominee. how are people there rationalizing that paradox. >> they're not never trumpers. but last year at the same gathering, about a half dozen trump rivals showed up and gave their best case scenarios for their vision for 2025 under their watch. and of course donald trump was not invited to that event. this year, it was an event full of florida governor desantis. we have heard from former vice president pence, and

accused kemp without evidence of actively working against him this election. >> your governor kemp and raffensberger are doing everything possible to make 2024 difficult for republicans to win. what are they doing? i don't know. they got something in mind, you know, they got a little something in mind, kemp is very bad for the republican party. he wouldn't do anything. laura: trump also congratulated russian president vladimir putin for the prisoner exchange that freed three americans this past week, but trump did not mention -- did not name any of the americans who were released. ukraine got a boost today in their war with putin's russian forces, when newly arrived f-16 fighter jets took to the skies. 29 months after the full scale invasion, president volodymyr zelenskyy unveiled the jets, given to his country by western allies. while this steps up ukraine's air defenses, zelenskyy said more pilots need to be trained. until now, ukraine only had soviet-era warplanes to fight russia. florida's west coast is bracing for impact from the latest named storm this hurricane season. tropical

brian kemp has already up by almost double digits at the time. but because i endorsed you via twitter bitter, you should commit a felony and try to get me to win the election even though i didn't get enough votes yeah, that's basically that's a good way to submit up, but you know what i was thinking about this and i've interviewed camp multiple times, just about where this stance and he's so clearly wants to be able to support the republican ticket. >> he wants to see republican in the oval office he even seem to be on the verge of being willing to go out on the campaign trail with donald trump. when i spoke to him right then, but before the debate but you know, he's not just going donald trump, not just going after camp or you are brad raffensperger, the secretary of state. he also went after brian kemp's wife, the first lady of georgia marty camp because she did not vote for trump. and you've said what you've been hearing from other republicans mean, how does that sit with suburban women voters in georgia? did they shrug that off? >> no, certai

governor kemp's should help him.d of the day, i know all republicans, regardless, we are unified in the fact that we do have to turn this state red. and you see that across the state, i work a lot within the gop politics here in georgia and we're definitely united on that front charlie, i mean, the group known as republicans for biden is officially relaunching today as republicans for harris. >> so how successful do you think they will be in convincing gop stalwarts to join them well, if donald trump continues to go after people like governor kemp because governor kemp refused to help steal the election in georgia in 2021 then i think that the harris attempts to woo republicans will be only greater. >> trump is still fighting with the 20% of republicans who voted for someone else. he is not trying to expand his base. he's basically telling them he doesn't want them in his coalition. so i think the ground is rather fertile for the harris campaign to pick off more and more republican voters trump still hasn't figured o

i'm not involved in that, but i do know that it was personal to president trump when kemp came out andressively salt and president trump's endorsement and your chose to go away from me when president trump needed and needed him and let me tell you, i'm afraid brandon, i'm a loyal friend is my friend needs me, especially if they've done me a favor. i'm going to be all in for them. i'm going to do everything possible to help them. i'm not going to play politics with it. that's why present even overturn the elections when i need eating, he was there for me i mean, what he was asking. that's the totally separate issue that was about lai's upset but we look we looked at an endorsement know we were talking about endorsement. we're talking about coming out and supporting him. camp came out it openly and said he wasn't going to vote for president trump in the primary. that's what this election is about. you're talking about something four years ago, let's talk about what's happening today in this election. today. today, president or a governor kemp came out, not today, but in this election cyc

kemp just responded this morning. my position has not changed, you know. i've said a long time before, you know, the presidential primary ever started when we had all those great candidates that were running that i was going to support the nominee, that we were going to use our political operation to win georgia despite past grievances, differences in a political opinion, you know, maybe ideals, issues, whatever the case may be with any individual or the former president. >> patricia, will this dampen the impact of these trump attacks against him, or is it still a gamble for trump to go after kemp? >> it's a huge gamble for donald trump to go after brian kemp. brian kemp is the most popular governor obviously anywhere in the country. he's also the most popular republican here in the state. he's the most popular elected official in the state, so to go after governor brian kemp in your own party is strategically just incredibly not wise, it has really dampened a lot of the momentum of unity that republicans had coming o

not be voting for trump. >> you interviewed governor kemp last month and he told you he didn't vote for trump in the georgia presidential primary. this obviously really bothered him and he keeps bringing it up. >> yeah, jake, that was a conversation i had with brian kemp the day before the debate when donald trump was was coming to georgia, their relationship and ship which has not been good since the 2020 election, had kind of turned into this detente where they essentially, brian kemp's that he was going to vote for trump in november, but he wasn't out on the campaign trail with him. they do not speak and have not spoken but i asked him if he had voted if he had voted for him in the republican primary because kemp had not answered questions from reporters in atlanta about who he had actually cast that vote for. he told me that he did not vote for anyone and it was on top of his wife, marti kemp, also not voting for donald trump. not surprisingly, i mean, donald trump tried to get her husband fired and once predicted that his political career would go down in flames. obviously, we

governor kemp is also raising some red flags.his top advisors said, basically, that these changes are exactly what republicans complained about back in 2020, when brad raffensperger was pushing that you rule changes without the party's consideration, without their approval. he's warning, and the attorney general, and governor kemp has asked the attorney general for insight on whether or not he has the legal power to remove some of these board members if there's a conflict of interest. >> part of the issue here is that if you have these reasonable inquiries, as the republicans call them, you could be looking into elections in various districts in georgia and you could potentially miss the certification deadline, which comes later in the year, which means that you would not be able to send your slate of electors to congress and the vice president wouldn't be able to -- i mean it's a cascading of effects. the vice president might not be able to count them any longer and what situation are you in? if governor kemp is put in a situati

trump said in atlanta, he attacked the governor of that state brian kemp and secretary of state bradaffensperger, both republicans. take a listen. raf fence perger and brian kemp, your governor, who i got elected, by the way, if it wasn't for me he would not be your governor. i think everybody knows that. very disloyal person, indeed. very disloyal. your governor, kemp, and raffensperger are doing everything possible to make 2024 difficult for republicans to win. what are they doing? i don't know. they want us to lose. that's actually my opinion. and we can't let that happen. >> must win state for the former president, and he also said both raffensperger and kemp, quote, don't want the vote to be honest. why attack a governor and a secretary of state, who are popular with republicans in that key battleground state? >> ed, i think it's obvious those guys have their differences and they have had them for a long time, but what they agree on, what we all agree on, is what a disaster kamala harris would be as president. she is a dangerous san francisco liberal who wants to do things like

if kemp is behind trump, and trump's friends at kemp, that the only thing that really matters between time the first ballots are cast. >> when you bend your knee and kiss the ring for donald trump, he has a way to forget your past discretions. i think ted cruz and marco rubio and lindsey graham and mitt romney and lisa murkowski -- we can go down the list of other republicans he has had beefs with. he realized what was happening and had to make a course correction. i think kamala harris has united the democratic party. we had jeff duncan, the lieutenant governor of georgia, speaking at the convention, something i don't think any of us ever thought we would see, a republican with a prime time speaking slot at the democratic convention. so i'm confident with the race that they are going to run in georgia. stacey abrams might not be great at electing herself, but she's pretty damn good at electing other democrats. they know how to win in that state and i think they're going to help her and we will have a good race. we are almost there? [applause] >> i'm sorry to keep everybody waiting. 1

governor kemp gets all that. governorthe first lady could nou have been more charming and delightful. n bthese two people, the first lady, the governor of georgia, are going to heltht ladyp president trump win a state we can't afford to lose. and i appreciate what presidena trump said today with president trump's vision and governor trump'saent trums governor kempw a ground game. we're going to win georgia. >> you know, i think georgia is i'ch an important stat.e. i lived there for four years. i do love the people of georgia. yeahr s , and they're really greatey'ree people like the people of south carolina. i mean, salt people of the ear. and you know what? well, yeah, they're not likee tt the people that ran me out of new york. methe two governors in a row ta said they don't want conservatives in their state. >> i got the the message that left. >> i can take a hintleft. linsey. i know what i'm not wanted, wel. but they treated me really well in spite of being from new york, although i hadn't lived ther ie in 16

now kemp has said that he was not going to support donald trump in the republican primary, but he has said that he would support him in the general election trump called him disloyal despite that and said that he was trying to break up the republican party. jess. >> all right. alayna treene, thanks so much for that reporting and joining us now, cnn senior political commentator and former republic looking congressman of illinois, adam kinzinger, congressman, great to have you. thanks for being here on this sunday today. today you announced you are endorsing vice president kamala harris for president, and you joined a number of fellow republicans to kick off republicans for harris. tell us why well, i mean, it's really easy. >> look if you're a conservative, a real conservative that believes in things like the constitution and the principals this country was founded on i mean, you can disagree with kamala harris on policy issues, but really the threat that that's really near to us is does democracy he survive and i don't mean that like esoterically are to be dramatic. but when you think

brian kemp was already up by almost double digits at the time. but because i endorsed you via twitter bitter, you should commit a felony and try to get me to win the election even though i didn't get enough votes yeah, that's basically it that's a good way to submit up, but you know what i was thinking about this and i've interviewed camp multiple times, just about where this stance and he's so clearly wants to be able to support the republican ticket he wants to see republican in the oval office. >> he even seemed to be on the verge of being willing to go out on the campaign trail with donald trump. when i spoke to him. right then, but before the debate, beetle, he's not just going donald trump, not just going after camp, or you are brad raf and sperm or the secretary state he also went after bryan kim's wife the first lady of georgia marty camp because she did not vote for trump. and you said what you've been here it's got lots of problems and lots of constituencies that don't like them and really, genuinely want an excuse to not vote for them.

in the state, not just with governor kemp, but also with his wife, morty camp. so governor kemp marty can probe both going to be at a fundraiser tonight in atlanta that is seen as a major, major effort to mend this fight between these two gentlemen. they need to focus only on the election if they have this story line of these two camps fighting each other about my only damage the campaign will only damage republicans so camp it's doing this to make amends with trump. trump started the fight. i have to say that camp is coming to the middle to try and mend those so that they can just move forward, putting money and donald trump's pocket is a great way to do it. and i think that kim summit that as well. >> wow, really interesting. patricia murphy live for us there in atlanta. patricia, good to talk to you. thank you. >> don all right. with us now, cnn political commentators, republican strategist shermichael singleton, and democratic strategist paul begala, overnight, fox news released this series of polls will put up the top line numbers. so everyone can see them

kemp was always onboard with making sure that the ticket won., they do have differences. and just like a lot of people do, they all come together on the same policy that vice president harris would be a disaster for this country. and i'm glad to see what brian kemp said and even what donald trump said. this puts us on the same a page in georgia. georgia is definitely a trump state. i think vice president harris and tim walz are going to find that out when they come to south georgia especially. they can go to pockets of democrat strongholds, but georgia as a whole is tired of the economic policy. and we've been hit very hard by the illegal immigration and drug problem, and we've actually had our residents killed by illegal immigrants, and this is something that's going of to play. she's got to answer why she has done nothing on the economy and the border. getting them on the same page is a great day. when georgia comes together, just ask florida state what happens. [laughter] will: okay. all right. florida state had a rough day yesterday -- >> it

kemp again just said, hey, we should want to win. let's focus on the election. let's not tear each other down so it's, it's really an imbalance there, but a lot of republicans do find it problematic that again, instead of talking about the economy, instead of talking about walz and harris, he's talking about fellow republican, a vote right now that he's supposed to be getting from governor popular governor brian kemp properly, he's like he's like j. >> cole essentially carrie, the matter i don't worry, part of this site which just be a team i like kendrick andrich. we will see how this goes i like where we've taken this at this point, we got a lot more to discuss stick around. how much will border and immigration factor in voters decisions in november or vice president kamala harris is in the border state and key battleground of arizona for that rally tonight. and the mayor of phoenix joins me live next the democratic. >> national convention starts monday, august 19 on cnn, and streaming on backs, work play link relief, work blinking

but again, kemp has always been willing to bury the hatchet a foot future the party, but be kemp alsoas future aspirations and it behooves him to stay in the good graces of the party at the end of the day, trump is the leader of the party but the question is, how often can this cycle happened? rinse and repeat, i think trump has been told, play nice leave kemp and his wife alone, will see if he's able to adhere to that for the next, you know, roughly 70 days until the election. >> yeah. i mean, here's mentally has been bagged repeatedly by everybody who knows camps, organization, and popularity in georgia. tia mitchell, partner short. appreciate you guys very much. thanks. >> thank you and coming up, you may want to double-check your daily deli meat in the fridge. >> the warning this morning from the cdc as more deaths are linked to rico called boar's head, that's next five good things. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts i have dry i tired, itchy burning my symptoms got worse over time. >> my eye doctor explained the ruble, his influence so he prescribes hydra. sandra works diff

even the republican governor, brian kemp, is looking into this situation.lots of moving parts. >> it's a republican brian kemp who may be the one standing in the way yet again for these maga republican election board members. you are looking at governor kemp who at the urging of democratic lawmakers and brad raffensperger has also pushed back against the actions of these republican board members, governor brian kemp in the last 24 hours asking his attorney general whether he under georgia state law is constitutionally obligated and has the ability to seek the removal of these board members and if the ag comes back to him and says that the state law does do that at that point in time governor kemp could go and hold a hearing through an administrative judge to have both sides hearing arguments on this and potentially remove those republican board members. >> worth reminding 70 days until the election. maya, the state republican party chairman tried to defend these rules telling news week, quote, these common sense changes will benefit all georgians regardless

to be an event where kemp is going to be honored.this why we're seeing governor kemp not really stopping the state georgia election board that's doing these crazy rules about election certification and voter suppression moves? >> katie, you're exactly right. governor kemp is trying to navigate this extremely tricky balance, right? on one hand his voice is very influential and trying to moderate some of the far-right efforts to, for instance, overturn georgia's lection. on the other hand, even after donald trump denigrated him, his wife, called him a poor governor, a bad guy all these names we haven't heard him call governor kemp for years, the governor still saying, hey, i'm going to back up. and literally just a few minutes ago wrapped up appearing at a trump fund raiser that the former president was wasn't there but a number of top allies was there along with senator kelly lefler in atlanta to demonstrate his loyalty to the former president. >> senator, we also have to talk about north carolina. we mentioned at the beginning of thi

but before we go, i just do want to say that the reason why governor kemp didn't endorse donald trump in the primary is because donald trump tried to open for turn, what camp believes is a free and fair election in his home state. i want to ask you about the situation in the middle east. israelis are bracing for iran to retaliate after hamas's top political leader was assassinated in tehran and the u.s is deploying ships and fighter jets to the region you are on the armed services committee he as i mentioned, what is your level of concern about the risk of escalation here well, it's already been escalated at this point. >> what they needed though is it's not peace through appeasement is peace through strength. and there should be no daylight between us in israel right now, israel had the right to do what they did. they took okay. out the leader of hamas, that was, that iran was aiding and abetting and was harboring. obviously he was there. and this is no different than us going after osama bin laden when he was in pakistan. this is the organization that attacked them on october 7, tha

there will be an event kemp will be honored?nd of why we are seeing governor kemp not really kind of stopping the state georgia election board that is doing these crazy rules about election certification like voter surpress moves. >> yes, katie, you are right. governor kemp is trying to navigate this tricky balance, right? one hand he is, his voice is very influential to moderate some of the far right efforts for overturn georgia's election, on the other hand even after trump demigrated him and his wife that we have not heard him call kemp for years the governor saying i am going to back him. literally just wrapped up appearing at a trump fundraiser. the former president was not there but allies in georgia were there along with former senator leffler. >> we have to talk about north carolina we mentioned it at the beginning of the block. we have tim walz spending time there as well. he shared at dnc and other moments that north carolina can be carried and be blue for purposes of this election, how liable is north carolina for the

>> their relationship is like this epic saga, donald trump helped brian kemp get elected and then hee that democrats had lost in every election for nearly 3 decades, and up until now, it seemed like they have this uneasy truce, they had found a way to kind of get along with each other and then in early april out of nowhere, donald trump bruises, parades, brian kemp, in a way that not only took folks in georgia by surprise but also took trump's advisors by surprise . it looks like they have each day tentative truce again and brian kemp, to him, this is a one- sided truce, he hasn't talked with trump since 2020 but he also doesn't want to pick a fight because brian kemp also has political aspirations in the future. he can't be seen as a traitor to the party. >> certainly like ray charles we will all have georgia on our mind, thank you very much to you both. >>> still to come, donald trump and prosecutors are at odds over the timeline of his election interference case. what this all could mean ahead of november. stay with us, you are watching the saturday show on msnbc. wi iable gr hipp

he said would you endorse a friend of mine, brian kemp? i said, who is brian kemp?e of his life. thanks, david, i appreciate it. i adored this guy. -- i don't know this guy. he was doing terribly. my endorsement means a lot and i'm very careful with it. i endorsed him and he won in a landslide. and then he said i cannot beat stacey abrams. she's going to be too tough. she felt that way too, by the way. she is constantly saying she won the election. she can say it, but i'm not allowed to say it. i am not allowed to say it. michaela, i love you, michaela. i am in love with you, michaela. please explain that to melania. please explain that to our first lady. you are fantastic. you are a special person. but i endorsed him and then he said i can't beat stacey abrams. he said that and his wife said it too. i said, well, you've won the nomination, so let's do some big rallies. i did them out at an airport, massive rallies, 55,000 and 52,000. there may have even been a third, i don't even remember. and i said you were going to win and i said -- and he said, i don't think so

governor kemp, who their. relationship has been a little tenuous lately because, you know, donald donald trump expressed a lot of disappointment, but now he's kinda groveling back. take a listen to how donald trump is trying to right? some wrongs that he has had with governor kemp. listen and brian kemp. >> the governor who i got elected by the way, who wasn't for me, he would not be a governor. i think everybody knows that it's very disloyal person, isn't day very disloyal is very bad for the republican party. i'm not a fan of your governor under these kinds of woke radical left policies, atlanta is like a killing field and you've governor or to get off his and do something about it? >> so that was then now, you know former president trump is saying, governor kemp is valuable. he is acknowledging is a great leader that he needs him. so what or how might governor kemp be able to convince? of voters in georgia to support trump after all that, well, we should listen to that last line that donald trump needs gove

i wrote a letter july 1st, i sent a letter to governor kemp demanding to know more about his decision delegation letter, including our senators, as a mother, i'm enraged, i'm enraged that the governor is choosing to disregard the needs of the most vulnerable families in our state. i was a single mother myself during the great recession, i understand how hard it can be to keep food on the table or to make ends meet. there are 1.2 million children in the state of georgia that need this but they can't get it because the governor is playing politics with the lives of our children. i'm incensed by that so, no, we have no good answer as to why he refuses to allow our children to not have any food insecurity. and prevent them from thriving. >> i want to make this clear to the audience, this only amounts to $40 a month. it is not a huge amount of money here, anyone who has tried to feed a 9-year-old over the weekend knows that $40 does not go far. he is actually blocking a small amount of assistance to these families that are struggling. i want to follow up with this, is there a deadline, is

trump and kemp, you know, trump and his long feud with kemp over his pushing back over the falsehoodsion and for him not trying to get on board to help overturn the results in georgia, but kemp is really popular. he beat stacy abrams in georgia in 2022 by 7 1/2 points. he beat donald trump's hand- picked in dorsey in the midterms, by 70% to 20 percent you know, kemp continues to have large support from republicans in georgia. it is simply not seen as a helpful political move at this moment when trump has been saying he wants unity in the party. >> let's take a look together, meridith , at the latest head to head swing polling, nikki harris in -- we have here is leading by a lot, only behind in pennsylvania. what are you hearing from republicans about trump's erosion. is there a concern he might be in freefall? >> well, donald trump is really struggle to figure out his attack lines against harris, now that the race has changed. he has talked about her involvement with the border and immigration. he has tried to tie her, of course, to the biden administration policies but nothing has st

brian kemp just got excoriated by trump the other day. trump just went after him, and yet there has got to be an event where kemp is going to be honored? is that why we are seeing governor kemp not really kind of stopping the state georgia election board that is doing these crazy rules about election certification? like, the voter suppression moves? >> yeah, katie, you are exactly right. governor kemp is trying to navigate this extremely tricky balance. on one hand, his voice is very influential in trying to moderate some of the far right efforts to, for instance, overturn georgia's election. on the other hand, even after donald trump denigrated him, his wife, called him a poor governor, a bad guy, all of these names that we haven't heard him call governor kemp for years, the governor still saying, i am going to back him. and literally just a few minutes ago, wrapped up appearing at a trump fundraiser. the former president wasn't there, but a number of trump's top allies in georgia were there along with former senator kelly leffler to dem

trump claims kemp should have done more to help him win the state. we also have the latest fundraising data from july, and it shows the harris campaign had a huge month with donors support, bringing in more than $300 million just in july, trump's team brought in $139 million, but he still has a sizable war chest with more than $300 million cash on hand. donors will likely be paying attention to the vice president's running mate selection. and then those two candidates, they are getting ready to hit the trail together, jackie. they're going to be making stops in seven battleground states this week ahead. jackie. mark meredith reporting from atlanta. mark. thank you. we will discuss the latest on the race to the white house with our panel in a second. but first, shannon sat down with justice neil gorsuch at the supreme court and has his response to president biden's proposed reforms. you are not in a bubble here at the court. there are real world events happening. the president has proposed now, changes to the court supported appears by vice president,

he is obsessed with the fact that kemp, for the entire time stood his ground and won reelection.is ground and has been kind of an example the republicans, you can stand your ground, not go down the road of saying the election was stolen and still keep your seat. others have not followed him, but that is one of the things that has bothered donald trump is he is like one of the rivals to donald trump who has not had to bow his feet or loses the. >> well, to your point about what roethlisberger represents as a more mainstream, traditional republican, he also represented the election, you know, in his state. he responded on x, noting the election will reflect the will of the people. people taught us this type of message doesn't sell well here in georgia, sir. a little shade there, from raffensperger. but it does speak up to an underlying narrative now, with emergence to energy and visa pickens of a harris campaign. georgia is at play, america. georgia is much more in play than it was six weeks ago. and that-- i think is a little bit unnerving, from what i am hearing from a couple of

kemp is very bad for the republican party. you can do a lot better, and you'll do a lot better with a better governor. his state has become a laughing stock. he's a bad guy doing you a dissers. he's not doing anything as governor. >> first of all, up in of that is true. beyond that, brian kemp is a widely popular republican governor in a very important state where trump was literally speaking. a guy who was reportedly open to campaigning with him this fall despite not supporting him in the primary, but it doesn't seem like it anymore. like i said, trump is twisting himself into this very strange weird pretzel, right? earlier on the day before the congratulated and popular bashing of members in his own party, trump pulled out of a debate he had already agreed to. trump said he would not be attending the already scheduled abc news debate on september 10th. instead he proposed a debate on fox news, of course, a week earlier with a full arena audience. let's pause on that for a moment. he's saying he will not participate in the de