for instance, that's what kendi says, he says, quote, "whei see disparities, i see racism." this is a totally unscholarly, unscientific way of viewing outcomes in a multiracial, multiethnic society. and it's dangerous, again, because it leads people to create policies that actually discriminate. - one race-based policyhat you opposed was affirmative action, which was overturned by supreme court last year. you supported the overturning of it. and i wonder how you expect or how you suspect it will impact the make-up of incoming college classes? - yeah, it's a very good question. so i wanna say one thing before i answer it. we have to remember that affirmative action is an elite issue. when the princeton sociologist, thomas espinshade, studied this, he wrote that only 1% of black 18-year-olds every year are affected by race-based affirmative action, because the otr 99% either don't graduate high school, do graduate high school, but don't go to college, or go to state schools and other schools that aren't selective enough to even need affirmative action. so this is an issue that