kneedler: yeah. th are not asking for robinson to be overruled. what they're objecting to is the injunctions that go well beyond that by -- justice jackson: yes, i understand. i'm just sort of rponding to some of the questions that you've gotn to sort of how does this rule work, can it work, that sort of suggest that it's not already happinon the ground in these places, that the shelters and the worke a aware of what is available, that people are being advised, th, you know, the principle of martin, at least in the ninth circuit, is we hold that so long as there's a grear mber of homeless individuals in a jurisdiction than the number of available beds, the jurisdiction cannot prosecu heless individuals for sitting, lying, sleeping. this inoa new rule. that's what the law is right no in that situation, right? mr. kneedler: yeah, that -- th's what -- that's what rtin -- i don't want to say that the clearance produs work perfectly in every case or that they're available in every case, but -- justice jackson: no, i just want to say we don't have to sp