negotiator who's thought they were making progress and getting koresh to agree to come out. the fbi lost patience. on april 19th, they decided they would insert tear gas, supposedly gradually to smoke the branch davidians out over a couple of days. instead, they filled the corridors of mount carmel with great clouds of gas. a fire broke out. all the branch davidian in there died horribly, except for nine who escaped all adults. and that became genesis and all the controversies afterwards that clearly have led to a number of violent incidents ever since. so there's not just the mount carmel story to tell, but the consequences. and now joining us is david jackson of usa today, who was with the dallas morning news during the waco hearings. mr. jackson, what do you remember from those hearings? well, the first set of hearings, i remember the fact that we had a big senate race going on in texas to replace lloyd bentsen. we'd been named treasury secretary. and that's what i was covering. anit was interesting in that the waco waco raid and even the waco the fire that ended the stan

negotiator who's thought they were making progress and getting koresh to agree to come out. the fbi lost patience. on april 19th, they decided they would insert tear gas, supposedly gradually to smoke the branch davidians out over a couple of days. instead, they filled the corridors of mount carmel with great clouds of gas. a fire broke out. all the branch davidian in there died horribly, except for nine who escaped all adults. and that became genesis and all the controversies afterwards that clearly have led to a number of violent incidents ever since. so there's not just the mount carmel story to tell, but the consequences. and now joining us is david jackson of usa today, who was with the dallas morning news during the waco hearings. mr. jackson, what do you remember from those hearings? well, the first set of hearings, i remember the fact that we had a big senate race going on in texas to replace lloyd bentsen. we'd been named treasury secretary. and that's what i was covering. and it was iting in that the waco waco raid and even the waco the fire that ended the stand up

negotiator who's thought they were making progress and getting koresh to agree to come out. the fbi lost patience. on april 19th, they decided they would insert tear gas, supposedly gradually to smoke the branch davidians out over a couple of days. instead, they filled the corridors of mount carmel with great clouds of gas. a fire broke out. all the branch davidian in there died horribly, except for nine who escaped all adults. and that became genesis and all the controversies afterwards that clearly have led to a number of violent incidents ever since. so there's not just the mount carmel story to tell, but the consequences. and now joining us is david jackson of usa today, who was with the dallas morning news during the waco hearings. mr. jackson, what do you remember from those hearings? well, the first set of hearings, i remember the fact that we had a big senate race going on in texas to replace lloyd bentsen. we'd been named treasury secretary. and that's what i was covering. and it was interesting in that the waco waco raid and even the waco the fire that ended the st

jeff: i am curious where his got her new david koresh in school, because he did not become koresh until after he left school. other than that, there were some things that would seem to outsiders unsavory about carmel, but the branch davidians believed they were doing what the bible said was allowed. they chose secular law. peter: it sounded like donald was referring to the rhoden family. tell us about them. jeff: they were seventh-day adventists who believed they had been called by god to succeed victor. he said god's message was they needed to follow jewish ceremonies rather than christian ceremonies, which are pagan. that is why they celebrated passover and not christmas or easter. lois, after her husband died, said the angel had come to her and revealed that god thinks women are every bit as good as men. for that, she was acknowledged as leader. she also acquired that statement from an earlier koresh team in florida. david koresh stole from team and lois roden was doing it. peter: the branch davidians were somewhat interactive with the town of waco. is that a fair statement? jeff: a

koresh had one legal wife who was a cashier. koresh himself liked to go to chelsea street pub at night and sing his song which no record producer in l.a. her wanted to acquire. when the media came in immediately following the events with the atf operations, they wanted stories. they would fan out into waco to ask people if they knew any of the branch davidians and if they had done disgusting things. all they were ever told is they are strange but keep to themselves. they could not find people who could complain about the davidians. these many years later, there are people who say i was there the whole time and always suspected they were terrible, but nobody was saying that at the time. peter: chuck, california. jeff: the writing you do -- type of writing you do, have you ever thought about the christian scientists and what they have done to the thinking of americans? jeff: i have you think that is not a thriving and over that about getting into. maybe another writer. peter: john, billings, montana, please go ahead. caller: have

negotiator who's thought they were making progress and getting koresh to agree to come out. the fbi lost patience. on april 19th, they decided they would insert tear gas, supposedly gradually to smoke the branch davidians out over a couple of days. instead, they filled the corridors of mount carmel with great clouds of gas. a fire broke out. all the branch davidian in there died horribly, except for nine who escaped all adults. and that became genesis and all the controversies afterwards that clearly have led to a number of violent incidents ever since. so there's not just the mount carmel story to tell, but the consequences. and now joining us is david jackson of usa today, who was with the dallas morning news during the waco hearings. mr. jackson, what do you remember from those hearings? well, the first set of hearings, i remember the fact that we had a big senate race going on in texas to replace lloyd bentsen. we'd been named treasury secretary. and that's what i was cering. and it was interesting in that the waco waco raid and even the waco the fire that ended the stan

he had to take the name koresh because cyrus was renounce koresh in hebrew. he was the lamb of the book of revelation. it was to lead his followers to the final end of days. they are not only coming now we are the ones to do it. whatever else we talk about today this is what we must remember.. they firmly believed in the survivor still believe this that the god they believed in had told them through his profit david koresh what they must do and so they would do it even if secular law said no because law is the only true law. whatever else we may think with all the things that happen they sincerely devoutly believe they were doing the work of god. i really had to work to learn that and accept it before i could start writing about their perspective on things. if you read the book, again it doesn't mean you're going to say oh they did what was right but at least you willll know why thy did things and how to. the really critical elements of history. >> charles manson, jim jones, vernon wayne howell aka david koresh not very good children. >> know but it's also tr

>> david koresh children, all told he fathered 23 children by just about a dozen women. he said that the bible quoted that the lamb shall spread his seed so the lamb of revelation can't be jesus because he didn't havela jesus so vernon, the lamb had to have children and obviously he couldn't have those with one wife and that these his were really old souls being born again and when the end times came, they would be the magistrates of the book of revelation will help rule over the new kingdom of god. 3 of his children were out of mount caramel by the time the atf operation took place, their twoe mothers had become disenchanted taking the children with them. during the siege itself he sent out other children from mount caramel but never his children. he sent out the children of followers, but he fully expected his followers expected they're going to have to die here. the fbi, atf previously are doing what thee bible predicted so their children, the little children of the followers can be sent out two or three at a time because they don't have any vital role coming but kore

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end this sobhan zahti from razavi khorasan became the champion, and parviz khazaei from mashhad and koresh khosravi from south khorasan were second and third respectively. the top players of these rakats are ranked higher internationally on the website of the world chess federation. mohammad javad karimi of the holy mashhad radio and television news agency. we review some short sports news together. in asian age group card competitions. emirates football league, al-ahli defeated dubayl al-batair, sardar azmoun, the iranian striker of al-ahli, with the second goal, and his team's victory in this match was against samand, iran's under-17 volleyball team, in in his second game in the world championship on sunday , tunisia's mireh national team defeated goshan irani in the first game of libya, and the last news was announced by the organization of the premier football league: sepahan will meet with shamsazer and persepolis folad in the third week of the premier league, respectively, in arak stadiums. and sardar azadegan qazvin stadium will be held. thank you very much for your companion with s

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and there are lots that are willing to work with cspi to try to convince david koresh the leader of the group that he should surrender and come out peacefully. and he had his own unique interpretation and he has come up with the data of 1995. he was thinking it would be 1995, so it wasn't planning to get attacked in 1993. it is clear that the jury recognized by its verdict that the killings of the 4 a t f agents were not justified. the, i do remember in the 19 seventy's there was a lot of talk with herbert armstrong's group, new worldwide church of god, as well as the joe was witnesses about 1975. so armstrong put out of 1975 in prophecy, and it was just the most gloom and doom thing you've ever seen in the is bunkers, is completely bonkers. to me, i was a kid, so i, i would complete excuse my parents, any other adults? i don't know what they were thinking at, they would think that this was all a possibility. but that's the thing about having a leader like herbert w armstrong. you get the right person in charge of an insane script. the script becomes believable. he failed as an advertis