but lasseter and others are saying no. you know, if you look and, you know, your work is instructive here, you look at the carceral state, right? this is a massive state project. and although liberals and conservatives are coming to this from perhaps different advantages, they are nevertheless kind of convinced that this something that needs to be done right this carceral up needs to be done. and so there's a tremendous it's not a conserver this thing, right? it's not it's not a liberal thing necessarily. there is this intersection where we're kind of the carceral build up happens for these different reasons, but nevertheless, important reasons write us empires realm in which this is also true in lesser kind of looks at a lot of a lot of other spheres in this is also true and so i think some historians began to really embrace this right and so they started to say okay we should jettison this sort of red blue divide and try not to understand in those terms necessarily. and pay greater attention to neoliberalism. but i think