latinino even before this meeting on the air, when i was actually... preparing about her statement. we don't want to hear what we have civil war. that, that which we continue to be persuaded from different sides. and, by the way, since 2014 they are convinced that we have a civil war, a civil war between russians and ukrainians, because we are one people and partners in the empire, a civil war in ukraine itself. i believe that this is a very dangerous narrative, because it largely continues to create the image of ukraine as such a second russia. which just might be more democratic than the first, and is now in such a situation of fighting for its sovereignty, not because ukrainians are different people, and because they want to live in a different social system, relatively speaking, we are such a taiwan, and we are not taiwan in relation to china, but we are korea, you understand, this is a different nation, we were not.' we are part of this empire, well, there were some ukrainians who were partners, but these ukrainians, as i have already explained many times, renounced their ident