now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> i listened to episode one of the new podcast today. i got to ask you a favor. >> okay.>> did you stop doing this thing where you reveal really dramatic interesting stories about united states senators i've never heard of? because one of the angles on me getting a paycheck out of this place is i pretend that i'm like the senate expert because i worked there for a while. this is not helpful, rachel. i spend the day listening to you telling me that a senator i've never heard of, and, by the way, the single most dramatic thing that has ever occurred in the building where i used to work at i did not know it happened until today listening to you, and it's not supposed to be like that.>> i will start doing podcasts that are about state legislatures in states you never been to. >> rachel, i am filled with questions and possible spoiler questions that you are free to deflect, could you possibly join me after i get a little work done here about trump's probation to talk about the podcast because there are so many things i want to see if y

but i want to talk to our friend lawrence o'donnell. lawrence, you were in the courtroom for most of the trial including the testimony from michael cohen. and before we speak with michael cohen. is there a key moment from the witness testimony or how this court proceeded that led or did you think that the very end that it could go either way. >> i did think it could go either way. luckily, we now know and say definitively. he was defending a guilty client. defending a guilty client is really hard and a hard thing to do. it is a very hard thing when you are defending a guilty client to get 12 jurors to unanimously agree to find that defendant not guilty. and he asked them to do many times in his closing statements. and many use the phrase reasonable doubt. and you wonder what that phrase means to every jury. every jury it is common for a jury to want to hear that. and they will want that read to them again. but this jury was clearly unified. there could have not been a lot of hard work to get through in the jury room. basically they got

now, it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> that evening, rachel. i listened to episode one of the new podcast today, and i've got to ask you a favor. could you stop doing this thing where you reveal really dramatic, interesting stories about united states senators i've never heard of? because, one of the angles of me getting a paycheck out of this place is i pretend that i'm like the senate expert around here because i worked there for a while and this is not helpful, rachel. i spend the day listening to you tell me about a senator i've never heard of and by the way, the single most dramatic thing that has ever occurred in the russell senate office building where i used to work and i did not know what happened until today listening to you, and it's not supposed to be like that. >> i'm very sorry. i will start doing podcasts that are about like state legislatures and states you've never been to. >> and rachel, i am filled with questions and possible spoiler questions that you are free to deflect, but could you possibly join me after i get a little w

that is our show for tonight, now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening. >> good evening, i just realized we have three senate candidates joining us tonight, sheldon whitehouse, sharad brown and from delaware lisa blunt rochester. all running for the united states senate. they're all going to have their chance to talk to voters here tonight. >> that is a good booking list, someone did you very well there. >> thanks, alicia. thank you. >>> at the end of this hour we're going to have to say our final farewell to willie mays, who sadly died tonight at the age of 93. the stock market hit record highs again today. something that that religion called trumpism insists is impossible because in the last presidential campaign donald trump promised this. >> if he's elected, the stock market will crash. >> trump is him depends on stability. it has to. because donald trump is so profoundly stupid himself, it is impossible to get stupidity out of trumpism. there was a time when i could tell you that every publican in the united states senator knew donald trump was lying

speaking to lawrence o'donnell last night, he described the stakes ahead of the general election. >> i'm running against both an indicted sitting senator as well as someone whose first action in politics is to endorse a convicted felon. i think that's the dynamics of this race here in new jersey that i'm facing for the general election in november. >> kim was referring to his republican opponent curtis bashaw and bob menendez. menendez's son won the democratic primary in the garden state's eighth district. >>> indian prime minister norendra modi won a historic third term in a six-week election that saw 632 million people cast a ballot. but this was not the victory he was expecting. his party suffered a setback and lost its majority in parliament. for the latest, let's go to claudio lavanga. what is the significance of this outcome? >> reporter: good morning, frances. as you mentioned, the fact that norendra modi won the election was not a surprise. even ahead of the election his popularity rate was over 70%. what was a surprise was that it was not a landslide victory that he and obse

speaking to lawrence o'donnell last night, he described the stakes ahead of the general election. >> i'm running against both an indicted sitting senator as well as someone whose first action in politics is to endorse a convicted felon. and i think that's the dynamics of this race here in new jersey that i'm facing for the general election in november. >> kim was referring to his republican opponent curtis bashaw and incumbent bob menendez under federal indictment and will run as an independent. menendez' son rob won for the eighth district. >>> attorney general merrick garland mounting a fiery defense of the justice system at a combative house hearing. he fought back against republican attacks, including the false accusation that the justice department was behind the manhattan prosecution of donald trump. hallie jackson has the fireworks on capitol hill. >> reporter: a message both blunt and sharp from the attorney general. >> i will not be intimidated. and the justice department will not be intimidated. >> reporter: a full-throated defense from the typically-soft-spoken a.g. slammi

now it's time for the last word with the great lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. speaking of great. i am in no less awe of your greatness, but it is less of a mystery to me now that i got to spend some real time hanging with your mother and father. and your brother just a little over a week ago. and so, you know, listen. anyone with that mother and that tab, you had such a great launch and life, rachel maddow. >> yes, i did. lawrence, i will tell everybody what you're talking about. i had a book event in provincetown. it was fantastic. it was really nice. and i did not get to see you at the event at all. but you sat with my family, and they are all in love with you. my mom, i'm going to totally embarrass her. how old is lawrence? [ laughter ] >> it is an official secret. >> hey. and my dad instantly knew what she was on about. and hey, it was great. it was very kind of you to come. it was really nice. >> and i was invited backstage to interrupt you and tony kirschner, but my rule is never interrupt the stars before

now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >>> we are joined by a former clerk for supreme court justice samuel alito who says justice alito should recuse himself from the trump cases. that clerk will join us to make her case. >> i'm eager to hear that clerk's argument for something i agree with. >> i think it will sound familiar. >> i will be watching. >> thanks alex. >> have a good show. >>> breaking defendant trump news of the night is that donald trump has to give up his guns. donald trump who has had bodyguards for many, many years before he had secret service protection. never had any rational reason to carry or even possess a firearm, but like many people who hope that a handgun might make them feel more like a man, donald trump owns three handguns. and he obtained a license to carry a concealed handgun. a license that the new york police department now wants to revoke. under the headline nypd moves to revoke trump's license to carry a gun, the new york times is reporting quote the police departme

now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening.ny fauci joining us tonight. he will never be thanked enough for the lives he has saved including our own for all we know. with the covid vaccine, but i will try. i will spend some time trying to thank him enough. >> trying to thank him, thank him on behalf of all of us lawrence. >> we will. thanks. thank you. >>> well, there will be a

now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell.ng, alex. we are talking about the supreme court tonight including the alito tapes and i was fascinated to hear your interview with the alito neighbor who was in the street arguments with mrs. alito. especially your point, which i'm going to highlight, too, of

. >>> now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening. i just managed to turn off my cell phone, just as you were turning to me, just in time. >> i love it. have a great night. >> thank you very much. >>> reed smoot was elected ■çto the united states senate in 1902. no voter ever saw his name on a ballot. reed smoot was elected to the senate the old-fashioned way, the way the founders thought senators should had be elected. the state legislature chose and voted for reed smoot to go to the united states senate to represent the state of utah. in his 30-year career as a senator, reed smoot rose to the most powerful chairmanship in the senate, chairman of the senate finance committee with jurisdiction over the federal government's two ways of raising revenue, bringing money into the treasury, taxation and tariffs. with the stock ■çmarket crashin in 1929 and the country entering the great depression reed smoot had the worst idea any chairman of the senate finance committee ever had. it was an idea that

now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening. we have dr. anthony fauci joining us tonight. he will never be thanked enough for the lives he has saved including our own for all we know. with the covid vaccine, but i will try. i will spend some time trying to thank him enough. >> trying to thank him, thank him on behalf of all of us lawrence. >> we will. thanks. thank you. >>> well, there will be a parade tomorrow for this year's nba champions. the boston celtics. we give our heros parades. and the early days of space travel, we gave astronauts parades. but then we shot so many astronauts into space and to the moon, we stopped giving them parades. we took space travel for granted. it was no longer the stuff of heroism. our most important heros have always been taken for granted. there is no higher calling. than saving lives. some of you might know what it feels like. but most of us don't. most of us have never and will never save a life. not one. we won't drag a wounded soldier off a battlefield. we won't drive a dying person to a

now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> at evening, rachel. i just experienced your description of that cat story the same way that all of our listeners on serious radio experienced it, which is to say , which is to say with no visual whatsoever, it was is i was driving down the 405 in l.a. on my way home from work in the studio or something. and it is good, i think for us to have that serious radio experienceus every once in a while. >> i started off the show with a visual thing, too. showing you this weird thing with vampire teeth and fake fire and people breaking windows with their heads. so if you stick with me for the hour, there has been a lot of visual description things that you can see that were very important. >> usually found the serious radio version is more than enough for almost everything that we do here. but i do think there's a bunch k of people in america right now who are driving home with it on and as soon as they get home they're going to get that tv on or somehow find the vid

. >>> now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell.ank you very much. >>> reed smoot was elected ■çto the united states senate in 1902. no voter ever saw his name on a ballot. reed smoot was elected to the senate the old-fashioned

now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, alex. we are talking about the supreme court tonight including the alito tapes and i was fascinated to hear your interview with the alito neighbor who was in the street arguments with mrs. alito. especially your point, which i'm going to highlight, too, of mrs. alito being caught on tape saying, i'm german, and seeing it in a way that she clearly intends to be threatening. what could she possibly be referring to in german being threatening to people? >> i mean, i don't know. as someone who has some german background in my own family, usually you don't try to plant the red to breed the nature of the german people if you don't have to. >> yeah, it is one of those indicators of just how wild it is in the alito home when it comes to what is happening with their flags, which clearly, justice alito knew all about, as your interview proved conclusively. >> wild is one word for it, lawrence. >> thanks, alex. >>> the stock market closed at an all-time h

over to lawrence o'donnell, with the last word. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, alex. glenn kershner is going to join us tonight because glenn kershner had the pleasure of being in the courtroom today when steve bannon got his report to prison date. so we will have the pleasure of hearing from glenn kershner how that went today. >> front-row seat to bannon's departure from the big house. i am eager to hear the caller. >> i am, too. thanks, alex. thank you. >>> he wasn't the most important person there. the president of the united states is usually the most important person in the room or the most important person in the stadium, or the most important person wherever the president is. not today joe biden and new that the 200 d-day veterans who surrounded him today on the coast of france were the most important people there. they were the most important people there 80 years ago, and they were the most important people there today. >> men who fought here became heroes, not because they were the strongest or toughest or the fiercest, although they were. but because they w

over to lawrence o'donnell with the last word. good evening. >> good evening alex. glen kirshner joins us. we will hear about that. >> front row seat to bannon's departure for the big house. >> exactly. >> i'm eager to hear the color. >> i am, too. thanks alex. >> have a good show. >> thank you. >>> he wasn't the most important person there. the president of the united states is usually the most important person in the room or the most important person in the stadium. or the most important person wherever the president is. not today. joe biden knew that the 200d- day veterans who surrounded him today on the coast of france were the most important people there. they were the most important people there 80 years ago and they were the most important people there today. >> the men who fought here became heros. every one of them knew the probability of dying was real but they did it anyway. they knew beyond any doubt there are things that are worth fighting and dying for. >> the world had never seen anything like the d-day invasion of the northern coast of france along t

now, it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> president biden is heading to a fund raisingent. making appearance at the home of new jersey governor phil murphy. now this veis not just an attempted lesson to appease anxiety. it is necessary. how did trump manage to out- raise biden? raise biden? one successful and cynical strategy has been raising money off all of his legal troubles ro including his 34 felony convictions. a trump fund raising email this week claims quote they torturedh me in fulton county jail and took my mug shot. do you need a hug? i think ■çhe does. i love you. and they want to sentence me to death but there might be more cynical fund raising. presidency pf his to the highest bidder. the washington post reported donald trump solicited one billion dollars to the top oil executives. his promise, giving these oil executives the opportunity to shape his environmental agenda n including rolling back biden administration achievements andn clean energy in electric vehicles. and now, trump echas gone full crypto, bro, after calling , crypto currency a scam and ca

now it is time for the last word with jonathan who is in for lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening. i would love to know if we are going to have a classified documents case but who knows. >> prepare a sheet cake with the number not on the cake and eat it or not. >> let's just eat it anyway. >> have a good show. >>> today, a jury convicted hunter biden, the only surviving son of president joe biden, oh three federal gun felonies. after a little less than three hours of deliberations, 12 jurors many president biden's home state of delaware agreed with prosecutors that hunter biden lied on a mandatory gun purchase form by saying he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs at a time when he was. president joe biden responded with this statement. as i said last week, i'm the president. i am also a dad. jill and i love our son. and we are so proud of the man he is today. i will accept the outcome of this case and continue to respect 2 judicial process as hunter considers an appeal. joe and i will also be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing wi

now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell."od evening and i just managed to turn off my cell phone, just as you were turning to me. just in time. >> i love it. have a good night. >> read snoot was elected to the united states senate

now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >>> speaking of great, i am in no less off of your greatness but it's less of a mystery now that i got to spend time hanging with your mother and father a little over a week ago. you know, listen, anyone with that mother and that dad -- i just -- you have such a great launch in life. >> i did. i had a book event in provincetown. lawrence came with his brothers. it was fantastic and really nice and i did not get to see you at the event at all, but you sat with my family and they are all in love with you. my mom said, how old is lawrence? >> it is an official secret. >> my dad instantly knew what she was on about. and it was great. it was very kind of you to come. >> i was invited backstage to interrupt you and tony as you are preparing to go on stage, but my rule is never interrupt the stars before going on stage.>> had i known you were lurking, i would've clung to you.>> a packed house in provincetown. by the way, andrew weissmann's sister was there and i could not quite find her in that giant crowd. he's here tonight so i've

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now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, alex. you know it is friday night when i have not remembered to turn off my phone. >> weight, my phone rang during the show. >> that has happened to me but it won't happen tonight because it's fixed. >> it's been a long week. >> it has, and we are going to talk about the supreme court decisions and i need this because i don't know the difference between nitrous oxide and whatever the other thing is and so, which chris hayes and you both explained beautifully but neil is going to take me through it again. >> he is the guy to ■çhave. it's a very big day at the high court. i will be watching. >>> okay, 24 hours later, if you are ready for some calm analysis about what we also last night, this is the place to be for the next hour. the very first thing you need to know about what we also last night is that most voters did not see it. it was the lowest rated presidential debate in a very long time. it had the smallest audience of any first presidential debate in the 21st century and only about on

now it is time for the last word with my friend, lawrence o'donnell, on a friday. what an evening. >> a very important friday. we will reconvene the courthouse gang for this hour to go over what we have all been through and, alex, just a word about a banana republic. i despise the term and have despised it for so long now because it carries the assumption that countries that grow bananas, and we know where they are, somehow inherently have inferior governments to ours. which we have proven many times before is not true and nothing proves that better than the trump years and, oh, by the way, we grow bananas in hawaii. >> agriculturally and ethically, great points, lawrence, as always. >> thanks, alex. >> have a great show. >> thanks. >>> well, it was a one word sentence that changed donald trump's life. he wasn't expecting to hear that word yesterday. at 4:15 p.m., judge merchan told defendant donald trump and his lawyers, the prosecutors in the courtroom, quote, i'm going to excuse the jury about 4:30. we will give them a few more minutes and then we will excuse th

now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. have three senate candidates joining us tonight. sheldon whitehouse and from delaware,

now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, alex. nancy pelosi is going to be our first guest tonight on the day that donald trump returned to the scene of the crime, as it were. we will see what speaker pelosi might have to say about that. >> yes, i am eager to hear her assessment, and what she felt when donald trump was on capitol hill. have a good show. >> thank you, alex, thank you. on january 6, 2021, after the trump mob attacked the capital, tim cook, the conscientious ceo of apple, reached into his conscience and presumably the conscience of the company he runs, and said this. today marks a sad and shameful chapter in our nation's history . those responsible for this insurrection should be held to account, and we must complete the transition to president- elect biden's administration. it is especially when they are challenged that our ideals matter most. those responsible for this insurrection should be held to account. today tom --, tim cook met with the person responsible, donald trump in donald trump's first return to capit

talk to her about democracy and the news or chris hayes or lawrence o'donnell or jen psaki or me too. go to the link on your screen if you want to be anywhere near new york on september 7th, if that is a place you can get to and you're interested, we're launching something. today was the announcement. msnbc live democracy 2024. it's going to be in brooklyn, new york, where i happen to live. that's not why it's there. you can go to msnbc.com/democracy2024, and get tickets to come join us if that's something that is workable for you, if you have the time and budget to do that. i encourage you to check out the link. the first of what might be a lot more msnbc events. that does it for us. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. >> just some of the horrifying consequences for women all over the country, after the supreme court decision overturning roe two years ago today. >>> plus, multiple hearings today on trump's purloined classified documents as trump's favorite judge entertains an absurd argument that special counsel jack smith was illegally appointed. >>> and we begin tonight in the

now it is time for the last word with the great lawrence o'donnell. >> episode two to look forward toause of, like you, i spent today engrossed in anthony fauci's book. i spent the weekend. i have to do an event with him at the 92nd street y on thursday night, which i am sure by the time you are halfway through your first comments, was sold out for thursday night. and rachel, the book is so rich, as you know that was the tip of the iceberg discussion. you can do, i could do an hour with him just about what he went through at the beginning of the mystery of the hiv-aids investigation. those chapters where they don't know what they are dealing with . it brings us all back to that time and all the work that he did long before he ended up, once again, saving so many lives during the covid-19 pandemic. >> and even if you just go to the pandemic park, epidemic by epidemic, even what he tells you about the guy, which i had completely forgotten about, i'm sorry, but i had. that is a mind blowing stuff in terms of the way that that was handled and mishandled in the way that people in governmen

now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, alex. i just noticed adam schiff is here in his role as a member of that crazy house judiciary committee hearing today, but he is also going to be the next senator from california. he is the democratic nominee for senate in california and he's going to be joining us. andy kim is going to join us right after he won tonight in new jersey, the senate nomination -- democratic nomination for new jersey and jon tester is with us, who also has the democratic nomination running for re-election. >> you could pass a lot tonight. >> something close to a quorum on the show here. >> there's a lot of possibility for your hour of television. i will be watching to see what you guys cook up. have a good show. >>> my first thought this morning was that house republicans were behaving like children once again, but i realized how wrong i was when i saw a c-span video of an actual child in the house of representatives sitting behind his father yesterday while his father spoke to an empty house chamber. >> regar

now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> tonight we are answering a question i've been wondering about which is how can marco rubio be on the same ticket as donald trump, because the constitution says, i have to say this right, that the electors from a state cannot vote for two candidates who are from the same state. they can only vote for one. >> it would make little marco move, right? >> that's the thing, does he have to move? how does the senator from florida moved from florida? is that legal? anyway, we need an election lawyer to figure this out for us. i just don't understand how they can be talking about rubio as if that is some sort of easy choice to make. >> i'm glad you are getting to the bottom of this. that is quite the pretzel twist. i will be watching. >>> presidential campaign debates were invented by and for tv. 1960 wasn't just the first televised presidential debate, it was the first. george washington never debated . abraham lincoln famously participated in the lincoln douglas debates, but that was in a senate campaign that abraham lincoln lost. w

now it is time for the last word with my friend, lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening. i just noticed that adam schiff is here as his role as a member of the crazy house judiciary committee meeting today, but he is also going to be the next senator from california. he is the democratic nominee and he will be joining us. andy cam will join us right after he won tonight in new jersey, the senate nomination for new jersey and jon tester is with us, who has the nomination in montana, running for reelection. >> so you could pass a law tonight. >> something close to a quorum. yes. >> there is a lot of possibility for your hour of television. i will be watching. >> thanks, alex. >> have a good show. >> thank you. >>> my first thought this morning was the house republicans were behaving like children once again, but i realized how wrong i was when i saw a c-span video of an actual child in the house of representatives, sitting behind his father yesterday while his father spoke to an empty house chamber. >> regardless of one's opinion of the current republican nominee, we would

talk to her about democracy and the news or chris hayes or lawrence o'donnell or jen psaki or me too. new york on september 7th, if that is a place you can get to and you're interested, we're launching something. today was the announcement. msnbc live democracy 2024. it's going to be in brooklyn, new york, where i happen to live. that's not why it's there. you can go to msnbc.com/democracy2024, and get tickets to come join us if that's something that is workable for you, if you have the time and budget to do that. i encourage you to check out the link. the first of what might be a lot more msnbc events. that does it for us. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next.

now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell.". >> good evening, alex.ning us to talk about the supreme court. alex, i was fascinated to hear your interview with the alito neighbor

now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell.". >> good evening, alex. sheldon whitehouse is joining us to talk about the supreme court. alex, i was fascinated to hear your interview with the alito neighbor who was in those street arguments with alito, especially your point that i will highlight, too, of mrs. alito being caught on tape and saying i am german and saying it in a way that clearly intends to be threatening. what could she possibly be referring to with german being threatening? >> i don't know. as someone who has some german background in my own family, usually you don't try to play up the retribution nature of the german people if you don't have to. history as a guide suggest maybe don't do that. >> it is one of those indicators of just how wild it is at the alito home when it comes to what is happening with their flags, which clearly justice alito knew all about, as your interview proved conclusively. >> wild is one word for it. i will be curious to see what senator whitehouse has to say about it. have a good show. >>> the stock market clos

now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening and i just managed to turn off my cell phone, just as you were turning to me. just in time. >> i love it. have a good night. >> read snoot was elected to the united states senate in 1902. no voter ever saw his name on a ballot. he was elected to the senate the old-fashioned way, in a way the founders thought senators should be elected. a state legislature chose and voted for reed smoot to go to the united states senate to represent the state of utah. in his 30 year career as a senator, reed smoot rose to the most powerful chairmanship in the senate, chairman of the senate finance committee with jurisdiction over the federal government ways of raising revenue, bringing money into the treasury. taxation and tariffs. with the stock market crashing in 1929 and the country and during the great depression, reed smoot had the worst idea any chairman of the senate finance committee ever had. it was an idea that would end his career in the senate. the house ways a

now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening. >> i just realized we have three senate candidates joining us tonight. sheldon whitehouse and from delaware, all running for the united states senate. so they will all have the chance to talk to voters tonight. >> that is a good looking. someone did you very well. >> thank you. >> have a good night. stack at the end of this hour we have to say our final farewell to willie mays, who sadly died tonight at the age of 93. the stock market hit record highs again today. something that the religion called trumpism insists is impossible because in the last presidential campaign, donald trump promised this. >> if he is elected, the stock market will crash. >> trumpism depends on stupidity. it has to because donald trump is so profoundly stupid himself. it is impossible to get stupidity out of trumpism. there was once a time when i could tell you that every republican united states senator knew donald trump was lying when he said that china paid american tariffs. american tariffs

time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >>> i just experienced your description of that cat . story and the same way that all caof our listeners on the radio pictured it with no visual whatsoever and it was if i was driving down the 405 on my way from work. i think it is good for us to have that serious radio appearance every once in a while. >> i started off the show with a visual thing showing this weird guy with vampire teeth and fake fire and people breaking windows with their heads. this hour there has been a lot of visual descriptions. >> i usually find the serious radio version is more than enough for almost everything we do here. i think there are a bunch of people in america right now who are driving home with sirius on and as soon as they get home, they will put the television on or somehow find a video of rachel and the cat . >> my handle on threads is my last name twice, maddow maddow and i have posted that clip there. it is reason enough to join threads if you haven't already especially if you are a refugee from twitter. you can meet orzo there. >> i will see you

now it is time for the last word with my friend, lawrence o'donnell, on a friday. what an evening.

lawrence o'donnell come in for jonathan.

lawrence o'donnell come in for jonathan. >> i would love to see if we get the classified documents case, but who knows? >> she take, with the number not on the cake, and eat it depending or not, if it happens. >> if it is sheet cake, let's just eat it, anyway. >> have a good show. >> thank you. >>> today, a jury convicted hunter biden, the only surviving son of president joe biden, of three federal gun felonies. after a little less than three hours of deliberations, 12 jurors in president biden's home state of delaware agreed with prosecutors that hunter biden lied on a mandatory gun purchase form by saying he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs at a time when he was. president joe biden responded with this statement. "as i said last week, i am the president, but i am also a dad. jill and i love our son, and we are so proud of the man he is today. i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal. jill and i will always be there for hunter, and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will eve

now, it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening, alex. going to be our

we will see. >> lawrence o'donnell joins us now. the way i see it. by the way, at the outset, i usually do not get any agreement on this. the idea that you will have commercial breaks and you cannot talk to staff or anyone is breathtakingly absurd if you understand the job that we are talking about here. the job of the presidency has advisers in the room all the time. you are never alone. >> so that is the crazy thing. the other thing that never happens in the oval office is that someone runs in and says you have two minutes to tell me what your position is on this. so the two minute thing is nutty. not having an opportunity to talk to advisers is not tea. all of that. because it has nothing to do with the job of the presidency. you will not see a single thing on display tonight except demeanor that has anything to do with the job of the presidency. if i was running this, they would get the questions in advance. i want your best answer, not the thing that comes off the top of your head. you can have as many staff people as you want

you can see rachel maddow, lawrence o'donnell, joy reeve. a connection with our incredible viewers and have these organic conversations and interactions that you can't necessarily do through a tv segment or can't necessarily do through a tv screen. that is the goal. i think we will definitely achieve it. it will be wonderful. it is cool msnbc wants to get into the space it started out. it is a unique space and we are excited to be trailblazers in it. >> it is a unique space, also you get a sense when you meet with people in real time, what their questions are, what their concerns are. these are not like anonymous questions coming from twitter. what are some of the topics, especially given the gravity of this election, and some would say that democracy is at stake. what are some of the topics you are hoping to dig into? >> democracy is obviously this large scale topic in this large umbrella where so many things fit underneath it. we bring up democracy, here is september 7th, roughly 2 months out from the most consequential presidential electi

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you can see rachel maddow and lawrence o'donnell and joy reid, so many people, a lot of other contributorsbut more so than anything we want to foster connection with our incredible viewers, and we really want to have these organic conversations and interactions that you can't necessarily do through a tv segment or you can't necessarily do through a tv screen, so that's the goal. >> yeah. >> i think we'll definitely achieve it, and it's going to be wonderful. it's cool to be at a place like msnbc that wants to get into this space and start it out. it's a unique space, and we're excited to be trail blazers in it. >> that's a great space and also you get a sense when you're meeting with people in realtime what their questions are, what their concerns are. these are not like anonymous comments coming across twitter. these are real conversations. what are some of the topics, especially given the gravity of this election and some would say that democracy is at stake. what are some of the topics you're hoping to dig into? >> well, democracy is obviously this large-scale topic, and it's a large um

lawrence o'donnell was questioning how much money he made off "the apprentice."cy are thinking of happier thoughts, moving on with their life, but he was remembering every negative thing anyone said. this book is also a warning. donald trump knows how to use the media. he's never been taken out. people keep saying, okay, trump era is over. but he won't leave because he is a reality star. reality stars really know how to captivate their audience. >> ramin -- >> by the way, really quickly, that's just reminder, we don't do this so much anymore, but for a guy that never watches our show, hi, donald. mara, next question. >> like you, joe, i grew up in new york, actually. my memory is similar to joe's memory of this show, which is kind of, you know, looking at the show and thinking, is this guy for real? i mean, i knew as a kid even that -- i knew about the bankruptcies. i knew about the central park five case. i knew that he was desperate to be an insider in new york society but really was never an insider. can you talk a little bit about actually what it is about th