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and lisa rubin is back with us. you were in court for the trial.y about donald trump's wealth, let's start with the basic question, is he financially solvent enough to pay a fine as big as $370 million remembering there's already that $83.3 million judgment that was in the e. jean carroll case. >> yeah, $370 million fine would not be easy for him to pay. especially if he had to pay it tomorrow, and especially if the $83 million fine also comes soon. a lot of this comes down to the question of timing, but if you think about the numbers, if this penalty is above say, 275, i would expect to see some sort of business response, and by that, a refinancing of certain assets. asset sales, if you see it above 325 million, i think it's a five alarm fire for the trump administration. they would have to do sort of major restructuring. but i do think they would be able to come through it. if you get all the way up to 370, he's going to be in real trouble. i do think he'll be able to survive but it's going to take a whole lot of work to make that happen. >> what
and lisa rubin is back with us. you were in court for the trial.y about donald trump's wealth, let's start with the basic question, is he financially solvent enough to pay a fine as big as $370 million remembering there's already that $83.3 million judgment that was in the e. jean carroll case. >> yeah, $370 million fine would not be easy for him to pay. especially if he had to pay it tomorrow, and especially if the $83 million fine also comes soon. a lot of this comes down to the...
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lisa rubin, melissa murray, don't go anywhere. we're going to talk about the rest of all of it in just a few minutes. coming up fulton county d.a. fani willis took to the stand to argue in the election interference case. but first trump has dropped the hot potato in the supreme court's lap. what do they do now? don't go anywhere. do they do n? don't go anywhere. >>> at any moment now we could conceivably get a ruling from the supreme court on whether or not donald trump is immune for criminal prosecution for his attempt to overturn the 2020 election. the clock started tonight after trump filed his final brief to the court responding to special counsel jack smith, who yesterday urged the nine justices to reject trump's repeated attempts to delay this trial. in his filing this evening trump accuses the special counsel of playing politics saying there is no mystery about the special counsel's motivation, the special counsel seeks to bring president trump to trial and secure a conviction before the november election in which president
lisa rubin, melissa murray, don't go anywhere. we're going to talk about the rest of all of it in just a few minutes. coming up fulton county d.a. fani willis took to the stand to argue in the election interference case. but first trump has dropped the hot potato in the supreme court's lap. what do they do now? don't go anywhere. do they do n? don't go anywhere. >>> at any moment now we could conceivably get a ruling from the supreme court on whether or not donald trump is immune for...
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is back with me.yesterday you and i talked about how trump wanted a $100 million bond instead of paying the whole thing. what exactly does the judge think about that? >> the judge didn't think much about it, chris, because trump was essentially trying to play let's make a deal to a court of law that is charged with enforcing legal obligations. new york state law is particular. it says where you're ordered to pay a sum of money, you have to put up an undertaking in the sum of the amount you're ordered to pay, in order to secure a stay as you go through the appeals process. and so they're not going to allow trump to circumvent that. at least not on an interim basis. yes, i will grant relief from a couple of facets of the judgment. in particular, you can borrow money. your sons can run the business right now. i won't relieve you of the monetary obligation to secure a stay. >> which means what? >> which means that unless and until a full panel of the new york appellate division, that's the first level of
msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is back with me.yesterday you and i talked about how trump wanted a $100 million bond instead of paying the whole thing. what exactly does the judge think about that? >> the judge didn't think much about it, chris, because trump was essentially trying to play let's make a deal to a court of law that is charged with enforcing legal obligations. new york state law is particular. it says where you're ordered to pay a sum of money, you have to put up an...
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lisa rubin and david fahrenthold are back with us. david, were you surprised about the timing of this trial start date, by march 25th? this is the first criminal trial. i know a lot of people thought thought d.c. was going to end up going first, but given the calendar in the openings, the judge in new york is taking his chance. >> i'm no lawyer, but i was not surprised. this is the first criminal case to be filed against trump, and in some ways, it's the sibblis. it doesn't involve a huge number of witnesses or a long amount of time, like the georgia case, or the d.c. january 6th case. this involves a small number of people and a couple of transaction. so, i guess i'm not surprised it would be going first. >> lisa, i want to connect the dots between the civil fraud trial and this criminal case. specifically as it relates to witnesses to michael cohen and to weisselberg. >> yeah, so, we were talking in the last segment about how michael cohen and allen weisselberg were key figures in this last new york attorney general civil fraud tria
lisa rubin and david fahrenthold are back with us. david, were you surprised about the timing of this trial start date, by march 25th? this is the first criminal trial. i know a lot of people thought thought d.c. was going to end up going first, but given the calendar in the openings, the judge in new york is taking his chance. >> i'm no lawyer, but i was not surprised. this is the first criminal case to be filed against trump, and in some ways, it's the sibblis. it doesn't involve a huge...
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a story we were talking about a minute ago with lisa rubin who is now back with us.ck cursory glance of this, and tell me has he sided with donald trump. >> largely he's sided with the attorney general's office. what donald trump really wanted to have stayed here, katy, enforcement of the money judgment, that $464 million award which represents the disgorgement amounts from judge engoron's order plus interest. this has not been stayed by judge singh. what he did agree to was a couple of other provisions. he said essentially that there won't be any bar on them serves as officers or directors. that means that eric and don jr. can stay in charge of the trump organization for right now. >> during the appeal. >> during the appeal for right now and until a full panel of the first department considers this. he also said that the bar on them borrowing money from any entities that are chartered or registered with new york state is also stayed for now. the trump defendants today told justice singh that without that, they would not be able to secure the full bond, and of course
a story we were talking about a minute ago with lisa rubin who is now back with us.ck cursory glance of this, and tell me has he sided with donald trump. >> largely he's sided with the attorney general's office. what donald trump really wanted to have stayed here, katy, enforcement of the money judgment, that $464 million award which represents the disgorgement amounts from judge engoron's order plus interest. this has not been stayed by judge singh. what he did agree to was a couple of...
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lisa rubin, melissa murray, don't go anywhere.about the rest of all of it in just a few minutes. coming up, fulton county d. a. fani willis took to the stand today to forcefully argue against her disqualification against the election interference case. it was really something. but first, trump has dropped the immunity of potato in the supreme court's lap. what do they do now, don't go anywhere. go anywhere. what causes a curve down there? is it peyronie's disease? will it get worse? how common is it? who can i talk to? can this be treated? stop typing. start talking to a specialized urologist. because it could be peyronie's disease, or pd. it's a medical condition where there is a curve in the erection, caused by a formation of scar tissue. and an estimated 1 in 10 men may have it. but pd can be treated even without surgery. say goodbye to searching online. find a specialized urologist who can diagnose pd and build a treatment plan with you. visit makeapdplan.com today. have you ever thought of getting a walk-in tub and build a tr
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let's get right to msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. lisa, what do we know about this appeal? >> reporter: what trump filed this morning and his co-defendants with him are two notices of appeal. one is at judge engoron's decision, that's the 92-page decision in which he found trump and his co-defendants liable for six additional counts of fraud in their business dealings in the trump organization over the period of almost a decade. he has also now appealed a judgment entered late last week. that judgment reduced the dollar amount, as you know, to $464 million and counting by the day with each additional day for added judgment. we don't see a brief yet. that's because trump under ordinary new york civil procedure rules has six months to do what's called perfecting the appeal. that's filing a brief, filing the trial record with the appellate court. the other thing we know right now is what we haven't seen. we haven't seen any indicia of an undertaking or a bond that trump and his co-defendants have posted in the amount of the underlying award. >> of course, thaus multimillion do
let's get right to msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. lisa, what do we know about this appeal? >> reporter: what trump filed this morning and his co-defendants with him are two notices of appeal. one is at judge engoron's decision, that's the 92-page decision in which he found trump and his co-defendants liable for six additional counts of fraud in their business dealings in the trump organization over the period of almost a decade. he has also now appealed a judgment entered late last...
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and lisa rubin here at the table -- on -- legal analyst., so we've got this power team here, and i'm going to basically say, we will stipulate on the merits of this opinion, which is thorough and good and basically gets it right. i think we sort of all agree, i think we all thought that going in. the big question is, these procedural questions going forward. so, let me start with you lisa at the table here. about, what does specifically the court, the d.c. court hand the supreme court, in terms of you have till february 12th, and then what? >> so the question about what he has until february 12th to do, i think is a little bit poorly understood right now. he needs to file a motion for a stay, pending his petition -- which is a petition for supreme court review. but, that petition, for stay, requires five votes, not the four votes required to review the case. so the whole kit and caboodle here, if it were, is those five votes. if he doesn't have the, four justices could say let's review the case. but if there is no state, in the d. c. circui
and lisa rubin here at the table -- on -- legal analyst., so we've got this power team here, and i'm going to basically say, we will stipulate on the merits of this opinion, which is thorough and good and basically gets it right. i think we sort of all agree, i think we all thought that going in. the big question is, these procedural questions going forward. so, let me start with you lisa at the table here. about, what does specifically the court, the d.c. court hand the supreme court, in terms...
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. >> let me bring in lisa rubin, msnbc legal analyst.i know you listened very closely as we all did, and i'm wondering if you had a different takeaway than what we've already heard? and if not, what do you think is the time line here on how quickly we might receive a decision? because we know that ballots are going out. super tuesday is less than a month away when a number of states including colorado will be casting votes. >> ana, let's start from where i think some of our other friends have been. i fully agree with the number of votes i think you'll see to overturn the colorado supreme court. and the moment that i said to myself i've seen enough was when elena kagan point-blank asked jason murray, her former clerk, why is it that you think that one state should be able to decide the presidential election for all states? that was the moment in which i knew that this argument was going exactly where we thought it was. everyone is just searching for something to hang their hat on interpretively or otherwise to get to that place. one thing
. >> let me bring in lisa rubin, msnbc legal analyst.i know you listened very closely as we all did, and i'm wondering if you had a different takeaway than what we've already heard? and if not, what do you think is the time line here on how quickly we might receive a decision? because we know that ballots are going out. super tuesday is less than a month away when a number of states including colorado will be casting votes. >> ana, let's start from where i think some of our other...
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let's go to our legal guests, lisa rubin and chuck rosenberg. robert hur makes a distinction, and specifically makes a distinction between what he found president biden to have done and what he says president trump is being accused of. what is that distinction? >> i think the distinction has to do with the level of cooperation he gave to the department of justice and the fbi, the interest that he had in voluntarily searching other properties beyond where it was initially found, and as a part of that cooperation, but also there was no willful retention after this was called to his attention. it may have been the case that president biden should have known he had classified documents in his possession or that there was classified information in the notebooks he took. once he became aware of the problem, there was no evidence that he continued to willfully hold on to them. that is belied by the evidence against former president trump who for over a year plus, katy, engaged in a hide and seek with investigators from the national archives, and then w
let's go to our legal guests, lisa rubin and chuck rosenberg. robert hur makes a distinction, and specifically makes a distinction between what he found president biden to have done and what he says president trump is being accused of. what is that distinction? >> i think the distinction has to do with the level of cooperation he gave to the department of justice and the fbi, the interest that he had in voluntarily searching other properties beyond where it was initially found, and as a...
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i want to bring back adrienne broaddus, paul butler, lisa rubin. lisa, it was interesting to me when we looked at this jury, of the 17, 11 said they were parents, more than half had experiences with guns or had been exposed to guns. this was a verdict, given by people who know what it is to be a mom or dad, who know what it is to be around guns, and they found unanimously that she is guilty on all counts. >> and given two options by the prosecutors, and they didn't have to all agree on the theory of her guilt for involuntary manslaughter, they could find she was grossly negligent in the storage of the guns that were used to commit the murder, or they could find that she failed to exercise reasonable care as a parent with respect to failing to prevent the shooting.options. i think one thing that also struck me, chris, was as they were reading the verdict and each of them took responsibility for saying it was their verdict, i heard a fairly even distribution of men and women in that jury too. so, this is the jury of her peers, to which jennifer crumb
i want to bring back adrienne broaddus, paul butler, lisa rubin. lisa, it was interesting to me when we looked at this jury, of the 17, 11 said they were parents, more than half had experiences with guns or had been exposed to guns. this was a verdict, given by people who know what it is to be a mom or dad, who know what it is to be around guns, and they found unanimously that she is guilty on all counts. >> and given two options by the prosecutors, and they didn't have to all agree on...
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. >> joining us now is former litigator and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin.waking up early on a holiday, technically. do you think lawyers have made their case in the d.a. willis trial that she should be removed? what would the ramifications of that be? >> let's start with do i think the case should be removed. i don't. they certainly have brought up a ton of dirty laundry, including how ill-advised the relationship between fani willis and nathan wade was irrespective of when it began. the fact that they were working together and he was serving as the special prosecutor would show the appearance of impropriety, however, they've not shown a debilitating conflict of interest here. in fact, the two witnesses you might point to giving them the most evidence that something untoward was going on, both have their own ax to grind. however, if judge mcafee were to disqualify fani willis, i think it's important to understand under georgia law what the consequences are. that would mean, again, under georgia law, the entire office would be disqualified and that the case
. >> joining us now is former litigator and msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin.waking up early on a holiday, technically. do you think lawyers have made their case in the d.a. willis trial that she should be removed? what would the ramifications of that be? >> let's start with do i think the case should be removed. i don't. they certainly have brought up a ton of dirty laundry, including how ill-advised the relationship between fani willis and nathan wade was irrespective of when it...
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joining me to discuss is lisa rubin, msnbc legal analyst and everybody's not so secret weapon at this point. lisa, thank you for being here. first off judge engoron's e-mail is -- it's almost as if he want to write back unsubscribe, like take me off this mailing list, i have no interest on dealing with you on any of these matters anymore. did you read that as particularly as shall we say sharp or is that pro forma? >> judge engoron can be very sharp. a colleague wrote me a text today after seeing that e-mail and said he's done. and my response was he was done in november. right, they exhausted his patience many months ago. >> and now it is not redowned to donald trump's favor. so the question is, you know, he -- the clock could effectively begin this week, tomorrow. >> yes. >> asap. >> correct. >> if donald trump can't find someone to give him a cool half a billion or thereabouts what is the next step for letitia james? >> let's say donald trump does not post this bond, then letitia james has to start taking steps on what's called exculating on the judgment. she can try to do that by
joining me to discuss is lisa rubin, msnbc legal analyst and everybody's not so secret weapon at this point. lisa, thank you for being here. first off judge engoron's e-mail is -- it's almost as if he want to write back unsubscribe, like take me off this mailing list, i have no interest on dealing with you on any of these matters anymore. did you read that as particularly as shall we say sharp or is that pro forma? >> judge engoron can be very sharp. a colleague wrote me a text today...
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joining me now to discuss is lisa rubin, nbc legal analyst, and everybody not-so-secret weapon at thisnt thank you lisa for being here. first, off judging goren email is almost as if he wanted to write back unsubscribe, like take me off this mailing list, i have no interest in dealing with you on any of these matters anymore. did you read that as particularly, shall we say, sharp? or is that pro forma? >> judge engoron can be kind of sharp. he is very tolerant until he is not, is the best way i would describe it. however, a colleague wrote me a task test today after seeing that email saying he's done. my response was, he was done in november. the exhibit they exhausted his patients many months ago. >> and now it is not even don trump's favor. the question is, the clock could effectively begin tomorrow. >> yes. >> asap. >> correct. >> if donald trump can't find someone to give him a cool half a billion, or thereabouts, what is the next practical step for letitia james? >> let's say donald trump does not pose this bond. no letitia james has to start taking steps towards what is called ex
joining me now to discuss is lisa rubin, nbc legal analyst, and everybody not-so-secret weapon at thisnt thank you lisa for being here. first, off judging goren email is almost as if he wanted to write back unsubscribe, like take me off this mailing list, i have no interest in dealing with you on any of these matters anymore. did you read that as particularly, shall we say, sharp? or is that pro forma? >> judge engoron can be kind of sharp. he is very tolerant until he is not, is the best...
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i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. charles coleman is back with me. argument here, lisa? i know you're getting ready and on it. >> the argument that they are making is not unlike what we have seen before from federal prosecutors in the case before judge tanya chutkan. this is a people that has a proclivity of saying things that threaten people in the united states, and may not have access to security. we're talking about potential witnesses, prosecutors aside from the elected district attorney, alvin bragg, and they are also adding a third component that's missing from the order before judge chutkan. they want the gag order to apply to prospective juror as well, saying the president's former conduct has endangered people like this, and given that this is a jury trial, they think that's really important. >> i'm going to try, if i can, charles, to over simpfully this. is this about free speech versus a fair trial sfl. >> -- fair trial. >> well, if you're trump's attorneys you're likely to go to make that argument. donald trump is basically going to say
i want to bring in msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin. charles coleman is back with me. argument here, lisa? i know you're getting ready and on it. >> the argument that they are making is not unlike what we have seen before from federal prosecutors in the case before judge tanya chutkan. this is a people that has a proclivity of saying things that threaten people in the united states, and may not have access to security. we're talking about potential witnesses, prosecutors aside from...
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let me bring in glenn kirschner, also with us lisa rubin who watched this whole trial unfold inside that manhattan courthouse. lisa, there was no indication in this that the former president has secured an appeal bond. what does it mean? the one question people have is they keep hearing this number go up and up and up. does this mean anything in that regard? >> no, it doesn't. in fact, by filing this notice of appeal, trump does not get a stay on enforcement of the judgment, nor do any of the other co-defendants for that matter, until they post that undertaking that can come in the form of the bond as you suggested or a person can pay up the entire judgment. here we're expecting something closer to the bond given the enormity of the judgment and the fact it keeps accruing about $114,000 a day in interest. >> what do you make of this appeal, glenn? what does it say to you? >> it says absolutely nothing at the moment because lisa is right. the new york court system, chris, puts out a very helpful one-sentence explainer of these exact circumstances. here is what it says. it says the litigan
let me bring in glenn kirschner, also with us lisa rubin who watched this whole trial unfold inside that manhattan courthouse. lisa, there was no indication in this that the former president has secured an appeal bond. what does it mean? the one question people have is they keep hearing this number go up and up and up. does this mean anything in that regard? >> no, it doesn't. in fact, by filing this notice of appeal, trump does not get a stay on enforcement of the judgment, nor do any of...
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lisa rubin is a msnbc legal analyst who's been closely following the trial. charles coleman jr. is a former prosecutor -- greatly about. here lisa, we sort of knew this was happening today. we knew it was going to be a judgment from this judge. take me through how we should understand what this judge has handed. down >> the way we should understand what this judge has handed down his first in terms of the monetary penalties, which are picking to win. he gave the attorney generals office almost everything they asked, for minus a few million dollars. the other thing i think we should understand is this doesn't put donald trump and his sons or his organization out of business and the way that people have thought it might. not only to judge engoron we'll back his prioritization to cancel their businesses defecate, which trump was going to appeal, but he didn't grind the lifetime bans the attorney general had asked for. either on trump's participation in the commercial real estate industry or on his simply serving as an officer, director of a new york corporation. that bans in place
lisa rubin is a msnbc legal analyst who's been closely following the trial. charles coleman jr. is a former prosecutor -- greatly about. here lisa, we sort of knew this was happening today. we knew it was going to be a judgment from this judge. take me through how we should understand what this judge has handed. down >> the way we should understand what this judge has handed down his first in terms of the monetary penalties, which are picking to win. he gave the attorney generals office...
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onset msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. katie, i know the hearing is sealed. what do we think is happening behind closed doors and why did former president trump decide to show up? i don't think he had to be there. >> reporter: you are correct, chris. former president donald trump did not have to appear in court today. in fact, it's the first time donald trump has attended any of the hearings in the classified documents case except for his first appearance at the very beginning of the case which we know was last year. donald trump, along with defense counsel as well as counsel for his co-defendants walt nauta and carlos de oliveira arguing from 9:30 to 2:00 what their theory is, cifa, classified information procedures act allows the government for withholding the deletion or redaction of certain classified information on the basis that it's not only irrelevant, but it's not helpful to the defense. from 3:00 to 5:00 special counsel jack smith's team has the opportunity to meet with judge cannon again. the reason why i say it's again, chris, is because on januar
onset msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. katie, i know the hearing is sealed. what do we think is happening behind closed doors and why did former president trump decide to show up? i don't think he had to be there. >> reporter: you are correct, chris. former president donald trump did not have to appear in court today. in fact, it's the first time donald trump has attended any of the hearings in the classified documents case except for his first appearance at the very beginning of the...
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kristy greenberg, and lisa rubin, thank you ladies, so brilliant. show to help parse all of this. >>> we are awaying the imminent release of a long awaited report into president biden's handling of classified documents. special counsel robert hur has spent the last year investigating how classified documents ended up in biden's home and office, and as of now, we don't expect any criminal charges to be filed. biden says he returned the documents voluntarily. he's been cooperating with law enforcement and this is very different from donald trump's documents case. he directed hundreds of classified documents to be moved to his mar-a-lago residence, repeatedly ignored the request to have the records returned, everyone allegedly showed the classified information to multiple people who did not have clearance, so we're waiting on that one. >>> up next on "ana cabrera reports" donald trump wasn't on nevada's primary ballot, but voters still didn't choose nikki haley, who won instead? >>> plus, the reported shake-up on the horizon in the rnc in an election y
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joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. what do we know about this? i think this is a very strong indication that despite what i and other legal observers might think about how much cash president trump has on hand, he is not backing down yet. this notice of appeal is the latest indication that he intends to fight the new york attorney general's ruling in the civil fraud trial. you know that that judgment that came out last friday takes the award from the original decision and adds the pre-judgment interest to it to a total against all defendants of $464 million. the appeals that trump filed this morning or the notices of appeal are typically accompanied by bonds that litigants will post in order to stay enforcement of the judgment, which means preventing the other party from seizing assets or trying to enforce that dollar figure against you. what we don't see yet is any indication that donald trump or his co-defendants have posted such a bond. if anything, it appears that they are trying to figure out how to reduce the dollar figure that would be req
joining us now msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. what do we know about this? i think this is a very strong indication that despite what i and other legal observers might think about how much cash president trump has on hand, he is not backing down yet. this notice of appeal is the latest indication that he intends to fight the new york attorney general's ruling in the civil fraud trial. you know that that judgment that came out last friday takes the award from the original decision and adds...
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. >>> joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and lisa rubin.s a grab bag here. i'll let you start wherever you would like. >> the hearing in the classified documents case in florida was interesting, mainly about what kinds of classified material trump and his lawyers will get access to as part of the defense. judge cannon scheduled a 4 1/2 hours hearing, outside the presence of prosecutors. this is a closed hearing, where trump's lawyers were expected to present some of their defense theories while arguing they do, in fact, need access to certain classified evidence. it's interesting, trump was not required to attend the session. he chose to do so anyway. this would have been the first time he was face to face with cannon who he nominated from the bench and perceived to grant him favorable rulings. in a session with prosecutors outside the presence of trump's legal team where jack smith's group will argue against giving trump access to classified evidence, they're expected to propose changes, like deleting names of countries and details of inte
. >>> joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, and lisa rubin.s a grab bag here. i'll let you start wherever you would like. >> the hearing in the classified documents case in florida was interesting, mainly about what kinds of classified material trump and his lawyers will get access to as part of the defense. judge cannon scheduled a 4 1/2 hours hearing, outside the presence of prosecutors. this is a closed hearing, where trump's lawyers...
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and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is here with me on set. barbara, we talked about this for people to keep track of all of these cases, out of all of them, what is the one you think people should be focused on this week? >> well, all of them are important and all of them have interesting things going on this week. i think the one that is most likely to bring news this week is the new york criminal case, the hush money case. and that's because the judge is holding an omnibus hearing on thursday. at that hearing he's going to talk about pending motions, talk about jury selection, and most importantly he's going to talk about whether that march 25th date is a go. so i think for that reason that's the one to bring us news. i also think one of the questions that could come up there that he may answer is whether he's been in communication with any of the other judges in the other cases. so it may provide clarity as to what the trial schedule is going to look like, not only the new york case, but some of the other cases. >> clarity is what we have
and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is here with me on set. barbara, we talked about this for people to keep track of all of these cases, out of all of them, what is the one you think people should be focused on this week? >> well, all of them are important and all of them have interesting things going on this week. i think the one that is most likely to bring news this week is the new york criminal case, the hush money case. and that's because the judge is holding an omnibus hearing...
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lisa rubin on set with me and an msnbc legal correspondent. ken, start us off.iting for these decisions. anything drop so far? >> not yet, yasmin. we don't know which one of them will drop. we're expecting to see this colorado decision. so interesting that in both of the cases you mentioned, you know, the plaintiffs are essentially asking the supreme court to make a hugely consequential decision that would affect the presidential election. we heard the arguments a couple of weeks ago, and it seems like there was a consensus among liberal and conservative justices that they were skeptical of the idea that donald trump should be excluded from the ballot in colorado and potentially elsewhere because he engaged in insurrection under the 14th amendment. liberal justice elena kagan sort of let the air out of the balloon when she first spoke during the arguments and said to the colorado plaintiffs, i think your problem is whether it's fair that one state should decide this question for the nation. and other liberal justices were also skeptical. essentially they coalesc
lisa rubin on set with me and an msnbc legal correspondent. ken, start us off.iting for these decisions. anything drop so far? >> not yet, yasmin. we don't know which one of them will drop. we're expecting to see this colorado decision. so interesting that in both of the cases you mentioned, you know, the plaintiffs are essentially asking the supreme court to make a hugely consequential decision that would affect the presidential election. we heard the arguments a couple of weeks ago, and...
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msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin joins me now. 47 different law firms and attorneys? that beyond carroll, he's got the case to see whether or not he can stay in business in new york. we know he has four criminal cases involving 91 charges, but is that number a lot, 47? >> sure, and not all of them belong to him. so in my quick review of that data so far, i've noticed a lot of law firms that represent other people too, and i'll just give you two examples. boris epshteyn, trump's aide who has been identified by "the new york times" although not confirmed by nbc knew as co-conspirator 6 was also a witness in the fulton county rico case. he was represented there by a man named david shaken's. david shaken's law firm is the recipient of some of these funds. ken chesebro was the legal mastermind in some respects of what happened on january 6th. ken chesebro was represented by a man named scott grooveman and manny aurora. a one-time lump sum payment from save america. it goes on and on. some of the expenses there are not legal at all. there are six $18,000 payments to man na
msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin joins me now. 47 different law firms and attorneys? that beyond carroll, he's got the case to see whether or not he can stay in business in new york. we know he has four criminal cases involving 91 charges, but is that number a lot, 47? >> sure, and not all of them belong to him. so in my quick review of that data so far, i've noticed a lot of law firms that represent other people too, and i'll just give you two examples. boris epshteyn, trump's aide who has...
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joining us knew, nbc legal analyst, lisa rubin, part of the argument is that donald trump could killlong as he wasn't impeached. order the assassination of a political rival. >> with seal team 5, and. >> seal team 6. jaws dropped in response to that argument, the same way they did four years prior when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and there wasn't anything anyone could do about it. this should be an easy case in the sense that trump shouldn't be immune from prosecution in this case. how the d.c. circuit gets there on the other hand is a little bit more complicated. judge tanya chutkan and her decision said there's no criminal immunity, full stop. the d.c. circuit has a rule with respect to civil cases that's more complicated. you have immunity within the outer or up to the outer perimeter of a president's duties, and beyond that there is no immunity, and at the oral argument, judge karen henderson, a george h.w. bush nominee to that circuit and the most senior judge seemed to be flirting with the idea that we should import that rule from the civil contex
joining us knew, nbc legal analyst, lisa rubin, part of the argument is that donald trump could killlong as he wasn't impeached. order the assassination of a political rival. >> with seal team 5, and. >> seal team 6. jaws dropped in response to that argument, the same way they did four years prior when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and there wasn't anything anyone could do about it. this should be an easy case in the sense that trump shouldn't be immune...
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tara setmayer, and here in studio, msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. before we get into the legal questions, i want to play a little bit of an interview that our colleague, laura jarrett, did with an ivf patient at that alabama hospital where now plans are in limbo. let's listen. >> my rage knows no bounds. i just want to be a mom, and, yeah, it's wild to me. it's wild to me that the state i have called home has more say over that than i do right now. i have no clue if it means that i need to move to another state in order to have children. >> i mean, just to be clear, this didn't start as the fight over whether ivf could or could not be performed. this was a worker who dropped frozen embryos when they were being moved, they became unusable, and that led to a suit over the question of wrongful death. right? >> yes. >> so that's why the hospital, the university of alabama hospital and these other places are so nervous, right, because this could expand far beyond the original issue. >> absolutely. and it could involve situations like embryo transfer as w
tara setmayer, and here in studio, msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. before we get into the legal questions, i want to play a little bit of an interview that our colleague, laura jarrett, did with an ivf patient at that alabama hospital where now plans are in limbo. let's listen. >> my rage knows no bounds. i just want to be a mom, and, yeah, it's wild to me. it's wild to me that the state i have called home has more say over that than i do right now. i have no clue if it means that i need...
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let's bring in msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin.'s start with this hush money case, lisa, which could be trump's first criminal case to go to trial. a reminder for everybody, he's facing 34 felony counts here of falsifying business records. what are we expecting tomorrow? >> so what we're not expecting is oral argument. trump has made a series of pretrial motions all to dismiss the complaint on different theories. some of them are about a lack of evidence in the grand jury, he's also moved to dismiss on the base of selective or dismissive prosecution. he has another motion that's about the legal theory of this case. alvin bragg has charged him, as you noted, with falsification of business records in order to commit or conceal another felony. that underlying felony on one theory of the case is a federal campaign finance law. trump's going to argue that because bragg is trying to use federal campaign finance law, that's the law that should count. if anyone was going to charge him, it should have been the u.s. department of justice for
let's bring in msnbc legal correspondent, lisa rubin.'s start with this hush money case, lisa, which could be trump's first criminal case to go to trial. a reminder for everybody, he's facing 34 felony counts here of falsifying business records. what are we expecting tomorrow? >> so what we're not expecting is oral argument. trump has made a series of pretrial motions all to dismiss the complaint on different theories. some of them are about a lack of evidence in the grand jury, he's also...
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i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. "new york times" investigative reporter russ buettner. his reporting is focused on the personal finances of donald trump. also with us is former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. thank you for joining us. lisa, i want to start with you. i want to talk about the process of an appeal, right, because we need to get an appeal bomb, which you and i talked about when it comes to e. jean carroll which i don't think he's gotten so far. he's going to need to get an appeal bond when it comes to the decision from judge engoron. talk us through that process. >> so, yasmin, it works a little differently in the federal system than it is in the state system. in the e. jean carroll case, judgment was entered there on february 8th, and he has 30 days from that point to post that judgment. similarly here, though, he has 30 days from when the judgment was entered and the judgment was entered on the day the opinion came out last friday, february 16th. and you are correct to say that the
i want to bring in msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. "new york times" investigative reporter russ buettner. his reporting is focused on the personal finances of donald trump. also with us is former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. thank you for joining us. lisa, i want to start with you. i want to talk about the process of an appeal, right, because we need to get an appeal bomb, which you and i talked about when it comes to e. jean carroll which i don't think he's...
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lisa rubin brought this up. michael was an important witness on behalf of the plaintiff, although hardly the lynch pin that the defendants, donald trump's team have attempted to portray him to be. his testimony was significantly compromised by his having pleaded guilty to perjury, and by some seeming contradictions in what he said at trial, however, carefully parsed he testified that although donald trump did not expressly direct him to reverse engineer financial statements, he ordered him to do so indirectly in his quote, mob voice. the animosity between the witness and the defendant is palpable, cohen testified while trump was in the room. first time they have seen each other in years, providing cohen with an incentive to lie, the court found his testimony credible based on the relaxed manner in which he testified, the general plausibility of his statements, and most importantly, the way his testimony was corroborated by other trial evidence. a less forgiving fact finder might have concluded differently, might
lisa rubin brought this up. michael was an important witness on behalf of the plaintiff, although hardly the lynch pin that the defendants, donald trump's team have attempted to portray him to be. his testimony was significantly compromised by his having pleaded guilty to perjury, and by some seeming contradictions in what he said at trial, however, carefully parsed he testified that although donald trump did not expressly direct him to reverse engineer financial statements, he ordered him to...
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msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin has the latest.can we just first talk about this white powder? it seems like almost everyone who has a high profile position related to one of the trump cases has a scare, a threat, phone calls, people showing up at their house, this is serious stuff. >> this is incredibly serious stuff. and the new york d.a.'s office has sort of compiled a record of all those threats to support their own motion for a gag order in advance of their trial. this is just yet another entry in their compendium of the series of threats, verbal and otherwise, launched a the participants in these various processes, chris. >> $464 million is what was ordered by engoron, the amount of money that he said should have to be paid but also this interest that has been accruing daily, right? can you just say, first of all, i know you want a $464 million bond but i'll give you 100 million and here's why? >> you're not supposed to. in particular there is law that governs how much it will be. here a judgment directs the payment of a sum
msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin has the latest.can we just first talk about this white powder? it seems like almost everyone who has a high profile position related to one of the trump cases has a scare, a threat, phone calls, people showing up at their house, this is serious stuff. >> this is incredibly serious stuff. and the new york d.a.'s office has sort of compiled a record of all those threats to support their own motion for a gag order in advance of their trial. this is just...
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let me bring in lisa rubin, our msnbc legal analyst, as you are going through this as well. what is your reaction to this opinion and how the judges have laid out their case? >> let's start with the fact that even before we get to the substance of the opinion, what i thought might be happening over the last couple weeks is indeed what happened. you and others of our colleagues have asked me repeatedly what is taking the court of appeals so long, give than they granted expedited review? and my prediction was all three of these judges, who had somewhat different approaches during the oral argument were trying to figure out a way to come together and issue what is known as a procureiam decision, it is a decision that is unsigned by any one particular judge. we have seen this happen before an appeals involving former president trump, mainly in the 11th circuit, when judge aileen cannon appointed a special master after the mar-a-lago raid, three judges of the 11th circuit, one of whom is a very well known conservative judge, the other two of whom are trump nominees issued a decis
let me bring in lisa rubin, our msnbc legal analyst, as you are going through this as well. what is your reaction to this opinion and how the judges have laid out their case? >> let's start with the fact that even before we get to the substance of the opinion, what i thought might be happening over the last couple weeks is indeed what happened. you and others of our colleagues have asked me repeatedly what is taking the court of appeals so long, give than they granted expedited review?...
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lisa rubin is back with us. joining us criminal defense attorney danny cevallos.wade. did he provide any clarity at all here or just further muddy the waters? >> i think he muddied the waters a lot because he was either, as i said yesterday, lying and/or speculating when he communicated with ashley merchant over text about the origins of the relationship and how early it started, or he was lying on the stand yesterday because he was deeply discomforted by having to testify essentially against his former law partner and even more troublingly his former client, nathan wade. so i think it was a wash. the question is where does that leave the defense in establishing a conflict of interest. i don't think they're any further along in showing that there was a conflict. on the other hand, if judge scott mcafee finds that bradley is a liar, is that enough for him to create enough doubt that he wants to see things like the phone records that trump's lawyers have offered to provide to him? >> danny, what's your assessment of where we are right now? >> building on what lisa s
lisa rubin is back with us. joining us criminal defense attorney danny cevallos.wade. did he provide any clarity at all here or just further muddy the waters? >> i think he muddied the waters a lot because he was either, as i said yesterday, lying and/or speculating when he communicated with ashley merchant over text about the origins of the relationship and how early it started, or he was lying on the stand yesterday because he was deeply discomforted by having to testify essentially...
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we are back with lisa rubin and andrew weisman.wants to know from governor kemp? >> i think what he wants to know is what governor kemp may have known from other participants in dpa. we know that donald trump called brad raffensperger in that infamous call on january 2nd or 3rd. we also now know that donald trump reached out to then georgia speaker david ralston, who has since passed away, and tried to get the legislature to do something. think what they want to know is what did you know about those conversations and to what extent did he try to reach you too and get you vfled in some sort of scheme to overturn the will of the people in your state and to send to congress an alternate or fake slate of lek torts that they could use to keep donald trump in power. >> i want to read just a little bit from the january 6th report on trump's pressure on kemp. on december 5, president trump traveled to georgia to headline a rally, but the president's day started with a call to brian kemp, during when they discussed reconvening the legislatu
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lisa rubin, as always, thank you. in the next hour, the rev is going to stick with us. when we come back, vice president kamala harris leading the corps husband of democrats today who are calling the special counsel's report into president biden's handling of classified documents gratuitous, inappropriate and inaccurate. we'll talk to one of those democrats about it next. >>> plus, republicans in washington this week sending a strong signal that global democracy all but abandoning the fight to protect ukraine this being led by not only leaders on capitol hill but right-wing propagandists. >>> later, the criminal investigation into classified documents. special counsel investigating donald trump turning up the heat and imploring the judge that all witnesses must be protected. you're watching that case and more when "deadline: white house" continues after this. af. crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4
lisa rubin, as always, thank you. in the next hour, the rev is going to stick with us. when we come back, vice president kamala harris leading the corps husband of democrats today who are calling the special counsel's report into president biden's handling of classified documents gratuitous, inappropriate and inaccurate. we'll talk to one of those democrats about it next. >>> plus, republicans in washington this week sending a strong signal that global democracy all but abandoning the...
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let's bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. basil remains with us.ory is about two different cases or one investigation and one case. ali, as you know, i said in that courtroom for many weeks while the attorney general tried a civil fraud case against donald trump, allen weisselberg, jeff mcconney, and donald trump's two grown sons, don jr. and eric as well as two business entities. the trump organization aided by those five people perpetrated a fraud. on who? on financial institutions, potential lenders as well as existing lenders, insurance companies, but basically was fo. now "the new york times" comes forward and says when allen weisselberg took the stand in that case where he was not only a witness but a defendant, he may have lied and is negotiating a plea agreement with the manhattan district attorney's office, which is not a party to that ongoing case. judge engoron sees this new story, doesn't seem to have known anything about it before. so let me just pause and say, for everybody who thinks this is why judge engoron has been taking his time
let's bring in msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin. basil remains with us.ory is about two different cases or one investigation and one case. ali, as you know, i said in that courtroom for many weeks while the attorney general tried a civil fraud case against donald trump, allen weisselberg, jeff mcconney, and donald trump's two grown sons, don jr. and eric as well as two business entities. the trump organization aided by those five people perpetrated a fraud. on who? on financial institutions,...
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lisa rubin, thank you as always for your expertise and for spending time with us.turn, for decades republicans have clamored for tougher laws to protect our southern border. hey, guess what, they got that now with senators on both sides of the aisle hammering out a deal on immigration reform. but house leaders say the deal is dead because the disgraced ex-president would rather have an issue to run on than let joe biden be part of the solution. we're going to get to the political gaslighting that's going on here in just a minute. >>> plus our dear friend joy reid's stunning new biography on med he guerre and merrily evers, two giants of the civil rights movement whose work resonates today. later the growing number of threats facing the 2024 election. the department of homeland security now sounding the alarm about what could happen and what's being done about it. "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. stay with us. continues after a quick break. stay with us liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. that's great. i know, i've
lisa rubin, thank you as always for your expertise and for spending time with us.turn, for decades republicans have clamored for tougher laws to protect our southern border. hey, guess what, they got that now with senators on both sides of the aisle hammering out a deal on immigration reform. but house leaders say the deal is dead because the disgraced ex-president would rather have an issue to run on than let joe biden be part of the solution. we're going to get to the political gaslighting...
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and joining us now is former litigator and msnbc analyst lisa rubin. lisa, let's start there.onitor in charge of trump's businesses, and there's a whole bunch of incomplete information that that judge is dealing with. how does that impact the decision judge goran has to make? >> we don't know if it's impacting judge engoran's decision and the timing. as you noted it points to a lot of improprieties and trump's financial statements. one of the things it points to is for years it's been underthat one of the business entiies in trump organization loaned trump personally $48 million. according to judge jones in a footnote in this letter. she could never find, no matter how many times she asked, documentation of that loan and was later told essentially that the loan didn't exhibit. the trump organization lawyers refute that. they gave her an intracompany memo telling her the debt had been extinguished. i looket at the memo. it's from 2023. it's a memo to the file. nobody had the guts to sign it essentialically. there is still to this day documentation that the loan would have exist
and joining us now is former litigator and msnbc analyst lisa rubin. lisa, let's start there.onitor in charge of trump's businesses, and there's a whole bunch of incomplete information that that judge is dealing with. how does that impact the decision judge goran has to make? >> we don't know if it's impacting judge engoran's decision and the timing. as you noted it points to a lot of improprieties and trump's financial statements. one of the things it points to is for years it's been...
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also here in studio, lisa rubin and joyce vance. okay, lisa. what is said in this next hour or two could be huge. what should we know about terrence bradley and the importance of his testimony? >> terrence bradley is an extremely important witness because of two things. one, he was nathan wade's first divorce attorney and his law partner, but he also corresponded over text with mike romans' attorney. he's the attorney who brought this motion to disqualify willis on the basis of knowledge that his lawyer said that she had obtained from the divorce case from nathan wade before it was sealed and also other sources. to the extent that bradley gets into subject matter that wasn't covered before because it was covered by attorney client privilege, he could shed some light on when that relationship began that he wasn't able to last week. i should also note that bradley left wade's partnership under a cloud of suspicious because an employee of theirs had accused him of sexual misconduct. so the two witnesses here who said or could say things about the
also here in studio, lisa rubin and joyce vance. okay, lisa. what is said in this next hour or two could be huge. what should we know about terrence bradley and the importance of his testimony? >> terrence bradley is an extremely important witness because of two things. one, he was nathan wade's first divorce attorney and his law partner, but he also corresponded over text with mike romans' attorney. he's the attorney who brought this motion to disqualify willis on the basis of knowledge...
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let's bring in our friend msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.ocess. >> so alicia, donald trump has 30 days to file what's called a notice of appeal. and during that period of time, as you noted, he also will have to post an undertaking, which is usually equivalent to the entirety of the judgment and sometimes in new york state even more than that, 120% of it. the place where i think i diverge from the columnist that you cited in your opening is i believe that donald trump will owe more than $400 million, and the reason is because the amount of the ruling that is attributable to him or companies that he controls plus the prejudgment interest on each of those amounts is already in excess of that $400 million. then you add on to that that 9% statutory interest that continues to accrue until it's paid. and so we are talking about whopping sums of money and sums of money that even if you were to believe donald trump at his april 2023 deposition in the case, that he has more than $400 million on hand in cash, he would be wiped out by a combination of
let's bring in our friend msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.ocess. >> so alicia, donald trump has 30 days to file what's called a notice of appeal. and during that period of time, as you noted, he also will have to post an undertaking, which is usually equivalent to the entirety of the judgment and sometimes in new york state even more than that, 120% of it. the place where i think i diverge from the columnist that you cited in your opening is i believe that donald trump will owe more...
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and legal correspondent lisa rubin and and criminal defense attorney robert james. all right. a big welcome to you. lisa, you and i have had the advantage of discussing this last hour. talk about terrance bradley and what the point of the questioning to him was and how much he has revealed? >> well i think we know now that terrapins bradley exchanged texts with ashley merchant, where he offered up a bunch of information about the relationship between fani willis and nathan wade. today, he is trying to walk that back and say that he didn't have any personal knowledge, including when the relationship started, he never saw them together, that any knowledge he had about the relationship came from a single conversation with nathan wade. but the defense is trying to establish he knew that this woman represented a defendant in the fulton county rico case and you knew why she was asking questioned and gave you a draft of the motion to disqualify and if there was something patently false, you were a lawyer and you would have told her as much. and he said, i couldn't say whether i would
and legal correspondent lisa rubin and and criminal defense attorney robert james. all right. a big welcome to you. lisa, you and i have had the advantage of discussing this last hour. talk about terrance bradley and what the point of the questioning to him was and how much he has revealed? >> well i think we know now that terrapins bradley exchanged texts with ashley merchant, where he offered up a bunch of information about the relationship between fani willis and nathan wade. today, he...
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rubin.nk you both for being. here every night, lisa, we say is this the night? is this the night that the appeals court will reach a decision in this immunity case and granted the hearing was january nine, so far goose egg. nothing. >> refreshing. >> apple are or whatever the pc version is. what is happening here, in your estimation? >> i can only have a guess, i can only guess to me what's happening. we have a three judge panel on the d.c. circuit. my guess is that these three judges have a general agreement between them the donald trump should not be immune from federal prosecution in the federal election interference case. how they get their, on the other hand, is a different matter. in the ideal world, all three of them would like to be in total agreement. they later issued an opinion that is not authored by any of them or all three of them get to sign on. but of course there are many different paths to getting their. one judge suggested during oral argument that what really matters to h
rubin.nk you both for being. here every night, lisa, we say is this the night? is this the night that the appeals court will reach a decision in this immunity case and granted the hearing was january nine, so far goose egg. nothing. >> refreshing. >> apple are or whatever the pc version is. what is happening here, in your estimation? >> i can only have a guess, i can only guess to me what's happening. we have a three judge panel on the d.c. circuit. my guess is that these...
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our colleague, lisa rubin, has noted that since the judges decision, people have assumed that trump can't borrow from any major banks. that is not the case according to a finance friend of hers. how is this able to continue to happen? >> an appeals point is a different animal than the -- he won't be able to go to banks and get a loan. while he was president, and since he left office, i think a lot of people, when they think of donald trump's banking relationships, think of deutsche bank. deutsche bank has done so much london with him. what a lot of people don't know is that in recent years, deutsche bank has exit at the scene. he has gone to a little known lender and san diego called axios bank. the person that runs this bank happens to be republican. he says for him it wasn't about politics, it was a financial decision, why he decided to lend to donald trump. but donald trump has been moving his banking out of the mainstream already. i don't see him getting loans. in fact, another thing that was not notice, i think during his presidency, there was so much going on. donald trump has been
our colleague, lisa rubin, has noted that since the judges decision, people have assumed that trump can't borrow from any major banks. that is not the case according to a finance friend of hers. how is this able to continue to happen? >> an appeals point is a different animal than the -- he won't be able to go to banks and get a loan. while he was president, and since he left office, i think a lot of people, when they think of donald trump's banking relationships, think of deutsche bank....
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back with me at the table is msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, who took a short break so that sheone of the things that struck me is the ways in which trump is trying to go around that d.c. circuit panel that decided this case. they had set this up so that trump would only get to pause lower court proceedings if he went directly to the supreme court and asked for a stay. but if he asked for what is often an interim type of relief, asking the full circuit court to rehear this case, they said no, no, no, we're not going to stay it in that instance. what trump is asking for now is give me a stay so that i can pursue both options and maybe even go to the d.c. circuit full court first. that's going to be a loser of an application. if you just do the numbers of the active judges on that federal appeals court that oversees the trial court in d.c., the number of judges appointed by or nominated by democratic presidents versus the number of judges nominated by republican presidents, the democrats far outweigh the conservatives here. that is likely not to go anywhere for him. that same full
back with me at the table is msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin, who took a short break so that sheone of the things that struck me is the ways in which trump is trying to go around that d.c. circuit panel that decided this case. they had set this up so that trump would only get to pause lower court proceedings if he went directly to the supreme court and asked for a stay. but if he asked for what is often an interim type of relief, asking the full circuit court to rehear this case, they said...