that is interesting because lord sumptionjust that is interesting because lord sumption just three weeksonally and may be the government's decision to have these notwithstanding clause is, meaning the human rights act and other human rights legislation in the international arena would not apply, but he also described it as profoundly discreditable made the point it was discreditable because it was a government that tried to get parliament to say that rwanda was safe, even if the evidence was that it wasn't safe. he believes it is a safe country and he says that and that is the government's argument. but i'm not sure this is quite as watertight as a prime minister seems to suggest. 0ne quite as watertight as a prime minister seems to suggest. one of the interesting things i thought was that clearly rwanda, a country that many people regard as unsafe and it has been said it has poor human rights record, rwanda appears to be telling pretend that it needs to be improving its human right response to the small boat, arguing that there will be people who have an immediate, imminent, serious thr

former supreme courtjustice lord sumption is here. and keir starmer has been trying to say his party has fundamentally changed four years on from a brutal election defeat in 2019. what's their plan to stop the small boats? also tonight: an investigation from barking and dagenham, a labour council hailed for its record on regeneration, but now accused of overcharging tenants in affordable housing and ignoring safety concerns. i feel hopeless. i feel like we have been used. ultimately invisible to the council. ifeel like been used. ultimately invisible to the council. i feel like they have no regard for where we live. and we'll look through the front pages with the whitehall editor of the financial times. good evening. it's been a tense few days for the prime minister, but tonight's victory on his safety of rwanda bill brought some respite for rishi sunak. a majority of 44 mps passed the legislation through its second reading in the house, giving the prime minister some breathing space as the parliamentary christmas break looms. for all

— will be sent to rwanda, but we've had lord sumption a variety of lawyers — had lord sumption a varietyghts of the ground. opposition parties believe frankly this is a very expensive gimmick in theirview, frankly this is a very expensive gimmick in their view, there will be voting against it on tuesday, and actually the labour party are standing back and quite enjoying this, because it is a big internal row once again within the conservative party. here is liz kendall, the shadow work and pensions secretary. it kendall, the shadow work and pensions secretary.— kendall, the shadow work and pensions secretary. it really does feel like the _ pensions secretary. it really does feel like the desperate _ pensions secretary. it really does feel like the desperate dying - pensions secretary. it really doesj feel like the desperate dying days of this— feel like the desperate dying days of this government, labour understands that this is a serious issue _ understands that this is a serious issue with — understands that this is a serious issue with the dangerous boats. it issue with the dangerous

but more than that, you don't need to take my word for it, you merely need to see what lord sumptionfrom doughty street chambers, from cambridge university and others have said. but it's notjust his party's right wing which is taking legal advice. moderate conservatives have concerns too, of a different kind. we insist that one of— the basic tenets of conservatism, that all conservative governments should stick to, _ is the rule of law and meeting our international obligations. - and what we are spending this| weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that - the legislation proposed actually stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn't believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. rishi sunak has staked part of his polit

lord sumption and lord wolfson, highly respected legal experts who say this is the topless legislationought forward. i hope colleagues see that for what it is, a top plan to really crackdown on illegal migration. and also, that they see the alternative is put out by keir starmer today. extra borrowing which means more taxes for every family in the country and an open door approach to illegal and legal migration. that is the difference between the conservative party and labour party and i really hope my colleagues today really think about that before casting their votes this afternoon and evening. casting their votes this afternoon and evening-— casting their votes this afternoon and evenina. ., and evening. you say you hope your colleaaues and evening. you say you hope your colleagues will _ and evening. you say you hope your colleagues will think— and evening. you say you hope your colleagues will think about - and evening. you say you hope your colleagues will think about that - and evening. you say you hope your colleagues will think about that and | colleagues will think about that

sumption and variety of lawyers have said. that legal experts agree that this will stop migrants from making legal challenges and getting flights off the ground. 0pposition parties believe frankly this is a very expensive gimmick in theirview, there will be voting against it on tuesday, and actually the labour party standing back and quite enjoying this, because it is a big internal row once again within the conservative party. here is liz kendall, the shadow work and pensions secretary. it really does feel like the desperate dying days of this government, and labour understands that this is a serious issue dealing with the dangerous boats. it is a serious for national security, and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost, so we need a proper plan to deal with that. the pm put out a statement calling on the labour party to act in the public interest and stop playing politics about the throu on tuesday, but perhaps his biggest challenge is to get his own mps to back it. it will be going through the various differen

sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chambers, from cambridge university andght wing which is taking legal advice. moderate conservatives have concerns, too, of a different kind. we insist that one of the basic tenets of conservatism that all conservative governments should stick to is the rule of law and meeting our international obligations, and so what we are spending this weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that the legislation proposed actually stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn't believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. rishi sunak has staked part of his political reputation on stopping small boat crossings. the coming days will be a crucial test of that. around the world a

sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chambers, from cambridge university andate conservatives have concerns, too, of a different kind. we insist that one of the basic tenets of conservatism that all conservative governments should stick to is the rule of law and meeting our international obligations, and so what we are spending this weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that the legislation proposed actually stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn�*t believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it�*s serious for our national security and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. rishi sunak has staked part of his political reputation on stopping small boat crossings. the coming days will be a crucial test of that. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. becca

but more than that, you don't need to take my word for it, you merely need to see what lord sumptiontreet chambers, from cambridge university and others have said. but it's notjust his party's right wing which is taking legal advice. moderate conservatives have concerns too, of a different kind. we insist that one of the basic tenets of conservatism, - that all conservative governments should stick to, _ is the rule of law and meeting our international obligations. - and what we are spending this| weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that - the legislation proposed actually stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn't believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. rishi sunak has staked part of his critical reputatio

you merely need to see what lord sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chambers about — how to dissuade people from getting in boats in the first place. and there are questions for all parties about their plans to stem the tide. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security, and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. he's put the promise to stop the boats front and centre. but first he's got to stop the war of words in his own party. the hollywood sign is 100 years old and to mark the anniversary a spectacular lighting ceremony was set up by the hollywood sign trust. millions of people visit this tourist attraction every year — in search of a photo or selfie of those huge, world famous white letters. to celebrate — the hollywood sign trust lit up the letters — with the original 4,000 vintage bulbs that illuminated the real estate sign — hollywoodland — back in 1923. they also bought 400 gallons of whi

but more than that, you don't need to take my word for it, you merely need to see what lord sumptions from doughty street chambers, from cambridge university and others have said. but it's notjust his party's right wing which is taking legal advice. moderate conservatives have concerns too, of a different kind. we insist that one of the basic tenets of conservatism, - that all conservative governments should stick to, is the rule - of law and meeting our. international obligations. and what we are spending thisl weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that the legislation proposed actually— stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn't believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. rishi sunak has staked part of his criti

it wasn't envisaged as lord sumption himself said in the original treaty.s new rights as it pleases and i don't think we can take proper charge of illegal migration until we have decided to do it for ourselves, accountable to an electorate . and what can an electorate. and what can an electorate. and what can an electorate do ? it can remove electorate do? it can remove governments. it doesn't like. now let's look at what robert jenrick said earlier today. >> i will never elevate contested notions of international law over the interests of my constituents over vital national interests like national security, like border security. this bill could be so much better . let's make it be so much better. let's make it better. let's make it work . better. let's make it work. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and robert's absolutely right. we need to make it work for ourselves . we need to make for ourselves. we need to make it work for our own democracy. the nation state is where power lies and where it ought to lie. as always, i want to hear from you. male mog gbnews.com i'm n

but more than that, you don't need to take my word for it, you merely need to see what lord sumptions from doughty street chambers, from cambridge university and others have said. but it's notjust his party's right wing which is taking legal advice. moderate conservatives have concerns too, of a different kind. we insist that one of the basic tenets of conservatism, - that all conservative governments should stick to, is the rule - of law and meeting our. international obligations. and what we are spending thisl weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that the legislation proposed actually— stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn't believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. rishi sunak has staked part of his polit

earlier, i asked lord sumption, formerjustice at the uk supreme court, if this bill, if passed, coulde courts for asylum seekers. it will block almost every route. what i think suella braverman is concerned about is the exemption included in the bill for people who complain that deporting them to rwanda would be unsafe for them even if it was safe. gender generality of people. there's an exception from some of the provisions of the bill, which provides that if that somebody has a personal characteristic specific to them, which makes it dangerous to send them to rwanda, although it might be perfectly safe for the generality of migrants, they may be entitled to appeal to the courts. this is actually a very narrow exception, and it would apply, for example, to somebody who said that he was gay, but for hypothetically might say, rwanda persecutes gays. but the act actually incorporates provisions which rule out most of the grounds which had been relied on in the past. most of the personal grounds, for example, the argument that health provisions are not as good in rwanda as in the uk and

you merely need to see what lord sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chambersave said. remember, this is what the political arguments are all about — how to dissuade people from getting in boats in the first place. and there are questions for all parties about their plans to stem the tide. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security, and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. he's put the promise to stop the boats front and centre. but first he's got to stop the war of words in his own party. today, argentina will today swear in its new president, the right—wing libertarianjavier milei. he won popular support for radical policies including making the us dollar official currency, and allowing people to make money by selling their organs. i'm joined now by our south america correspondent, katy watson, who's in sao paulo. some interesting policies here from javier milei. talk is through what argentin

sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chambers, from cambridge university andch is taking legal advice. moderate conservatives have concerns, too, of a different kind. we insist that one of the basic tenets of conservatism that all conservative governments should stick to is the rule of law and meeting our international obligations, and so what we are spending this weekend reassuring ourselves, if we can, is that the legislation proposed actually stays within the law. conservative mps agree that small boat crossings should be stopped. they disagree on how far the party should go to do that. labour doesn't believe the rwanda plan will work at all. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government. and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's a serious for our national security rishi sunak has staked part of his political reputation on stopping small boat crossings. the coming days will be a crucial test of that. the new president of argentina, javier milei, has said that shock treatment is needed

sumption and a variety of other lawyers, from cambridge university and others, have said. have said. so you said the overwhelming majority, that's| the overwhelming majority, that's your definition of what you hope will happen and what you know will happen, we'll see what happens in the courts, if indeed this gets through parliament because there is a question about whether it will get through the commons let alone then the house of lords. but you could publish the government's legal advice, put it out there, then everyone can make their own judgment. why not do that? because governments — judgment. why not do that? because governments never _ judgment. why not do that? because governments never publish _ judgment. why not do that? because governments never publish their- governments never publish their legal advice. governments never publish their legal advice-— governments never publish their legal advice. sometimes they are dra: ued legal advice. sometimes they are dragged into _ legal advice. sometimes they are dragged into it. _ legal advice. sometimes they are dragge

now lord sumption thinks that they have.ee what the juxtaposition of that with the law is. so most law assumptions is. and so most of my colleagues are constantly not for me to tell them what to do. i just simply recommend and don't leap before you see exactly what it in front. exactly what it is in front. >> that sounds to you >> that sounds to me that you might be veering towards abstention if you're not happy rather rebellion mean, abstention if you're not happy rathgovernmentllion mean, abstention if you're not happy rathgovernmentison mean, abstention if you're not happy rathgovernment is on mean, abstention if you're not happy rath government is on the|ean, abstention if you're not happy rath government is on the ropes. the government is on the ropes. it's be helpful it's not going to be helpful for people like you, senior politicians the party, a politicians in the party, a former to rebel on this former leader to rebel on this is it? >> yeah, couldn't % couldn't more, >> yeah, i couldn't agree more, which i'm keeping

sumption and variety of lawyers have said.grants from making legal challenges and getting flights off the ground. opposition parties believe frankly this is a very expensive gimmick in theirview, there will be voting against it on tuesday, and actually the labour party standing back and quite enjoying this, because it is a big internal row once again within the conservative party. here is liz kendall, the shadow work and pensions secretary. it really does feel like the desperate dying days of this government, and labour understands that this is a serious issue dealing with the dangerous boats. it is a serious for national security, and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost, so we need a proper plan to deal with that. the pm put out a statement calling on the labour party to act in the public interest and stop playing politics about the throu on tuesday, but perhaps his biggest challenge is to get his own mps to back it. it will be going through the various different parts of houses of parliament, they might be t

you merely need to see what lord sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chamberse said. remember, this is what the political arguments are all about — how to dissuade people from getting in boats in the first place. and there are questions for all parties about their plans to stem the tide. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security, and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. he's put the promise to stop the boats front and centre. but first he's got to stop the war of words in his own party. a judge has strongly criticised the bbc for failing to release a large number of emails relating to martin bashir�*s 1995 interview with princess diana on panorama. the documents had been requested by a journalist, who was investigating what managers at the corporation knew about the controversial interview. martin bashir stepped down from his job at the bbc in 2021. our culture correspondent, charlotte gallagh

. >> and lord sumption made >> and lord sumption has made clear if government is clear that if the governmentl bully is a former court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forr he's court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you court judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you know, judge. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you know, heige. parliament's xl bully is a forrhe's a, you know, he said if >> he's a, you know, he said if parliament is explicit and he read bill and said that read the bill and said that looks clear me. looks pretty clear to me. >> anything the >> i can't see anything the court to stop it, because court can do to stop it, because ultimately supreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament supreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is supreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is sayingsupreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is saying torreme court can do to stop it, because ultirparliament is saying to the e and parliament is saying to the courts, y

sumption wolfson lord sumption and lord wolfson that clauses work . that that ouster clauses work. known since we started talking about ouster clauses that they have to be really well drafted. >> it's interesting because because lord sumption has said he believes that this bill would work. but you disagree there. you think that it might if it's tightened up, would you think that it might if it's tightened up , would therefore tightened up, would therefore the would therefore the conclusion of that be committee stage, i.e. if the boat passes tomorrow at committee stage, there could be some amendments that actually make this bill, in your view , work potentially, your view, work potentially, although you wouldn't committee won't deal with the european court of human rights and it won't deal with the european court of justice. >> it's a policy >> but and it's a policy decision get rid of section decision to get rid of section four they need. four that they would need. i think beyond mere think that's beyond mere committee but if you committee drafting. but if you like, i've identified

. _ you merely need to see what lord i sumption and a variety of other. lawyers from doughty street -ty and others have said. remember, this is what the political arguments are all about how to dissuade people from getting in boats in the first place. and there are questions for all parties about their plans to stem the tide. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government and labour understands that this is a serious issue dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security. and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost, he's put the promise to stop the boats front and centre. but first he's got to stop the war of words in his own party. now it's time for a look at today's sport. and gavinjoins us now. to the football first, and manchester city manager pep guardiola says his side are judged by higher standards than any of their premier league rivals. city play luton in just under an hour's time. looking to end a four game winless run. guardiola himself has never gone five matches without victory in his managerial career. luton tho

we've heard from no less a person than lord sumption, who was a justice of the supreme court , who thinkurt, who think it will work. and i think it needs to be given a chance to work . a chance to work. >> so you do not share, robert jenrick's view that the government's plan to see through the rwanda plan is inadequate ? the rwanda plan is inadequate? >> no, i don't. and i'm sorry that robert has resigned . the that robert has resigned. the truth is that what what the prime minister has put forward is radical but workable . and i is radical but workable. and i believe with company , with the believe with company, with the other lawyers that i've mentioned, that it can actually do what we all want to see done, which is provide a deterrent so that people who are tempted to pay that people who are tempted to pay the people smugglers to transport them across europe so they can get into the uk , will they can get into the uk, will know that it's not worth paying the money. it would be wasted money because they end up in rwanda and not in the uk. >> well, the prime minister will be buoyed by y

and third, as lord sumption has pointed out, there is a degree of fudge in the current system.sted dying remain illegal, protecting the vulnerable. but the law has grey areas and sometimes those who break it deserve and indeed receive mercy . and it seems to receive mercy. and it seems to me this is a small price to pay to stop the slippery slope. and it is an occasion where the slippery slope is certainly there. it's apparent when euthanasia has been allowed in other countries, and we don't need to look further than some countries near us or similar to us in terms of legal system in belgium , they now have ruled belgium, they now have ruled that there is no age limited to assisted death, and so children have been killed. there's also the case of genevieve l'hermite . the case of genevieve l'hermite. she murdered her five children, four daughters and one son in two thousand and seven. and earlier this year, she was allowed to kill herself. now, this brings euthanasia in as a substitute for capital punishment, which strikes me as a sinister development in canada. we have seen pe

we've heard from no less a person than lord sumption, who was a justice of the supreme court , who thinkcourt, who think it will work. and i think it needs to be given a chance to work . a chance to work. >> so you do not share, robert jenrick's view that the government's plan to see through the rwanda plan is inadequate ? the rwanda plan is inadequate? >> no, i don't. and i'm sorry that robert has resigned . the that robert has resigned. the truth is that what what the prime minister has put forward is radical but workable . and i is radical but workable. and i believe with company , with the believe with company, with the other lawyers that i've mentioned, that it can actually do what we all want to see done, which is provide a deterrent so that people who are tempted to pay that people who are tempted to pay the people smugglers to transport them across europe so they can get into the uk , will they can get into the uk, will know that it's not worth paying the money. it would be wasted money because they end up in rwanda and not in the uk. >> well, the prime minister will be buoyed by

you merely need to see what lord sumption and a variety of other lawyers from doughty street chambersrs have said. remember, this is what the political arguments are all about — how to dissuade people from getting in boats in the first place. and there are questions for all parties about their plans to stem the tide. it really does feel like the desperate, dying days of this government and labour understands that this is a serious issue, dealing with the dangerous boats. it's serious for our national security, and because of the potential numbers of lives being lost. he's put the promise to stop the boats front and centre. but first he's got to stop the war of words in his own party. with more on this, our political correspondent helen catt is in the newsroom. this is very much a political crisis for rishi sunak, what are the next few days going to hold for him potentially? the few days going to hold for him potentially?— few days going to hold for him potentially? few days going to hold for him otentiall ? ., , , ., potentially? the next few days are auoin to potentially? the next fe

and even lord sumption, you actually in the past have argued with about this. never leave the european court of human rights. he just come out and said, do you know what? i haven't looked at their recent echr it's not the european court, so sorry. that's why get wrong. that's why i get it wrong. yeah, but laws in but we should and better laws in this protect our this country to protect our human rights. >> w >> we can say absolutely no reason should, but on the reason why we should, but on the other hand, that doesn't mean that actually abandon that we have to actually abandon churchill's of european standard. >> it's a different world, but i don't know. >> the thing that you've >> also, the thing that you've got in mind is i think got to bear in mind is i think that it becomes an excuse . and that it becomes an excuse. and by the way, i think by the conservative party as much as anything else, because in the old used the case old days it used to be the case that wrong old days it used to be the case th.this wrong old days it used to be the case th.this country

and even lord sumption, you actually in the past have argued with about this.hould never leave the european court of human rights. he just come out and said, do you know what? i haven't looked at their recent echr it's not the european court, so sorry. that's why get wrong. that's why i get it wrong. yeah, but laws in but we should and better laws in this protect our this country to protect our human rights. >> w >> we can say absolutely no reason should, but on the reason why we should, but on the other hand, that doesn't mean that actually abandon that we have to actually abandon churchill's of european standard. >> it's a different world, but i don't know. >> the thing that you've >> also, the thing that you've got in mind is i think got to bear in mind is i think that it becomes an excuse . and that it becomes an excuse. and by the way, i think by the conservative party as much as anything else, because in the old used the case old days it used to be the case that wrong old days it used to be the case th.this wrong old days it used to be the case th.this co

lord sumption, who a former sumption, who was a former member the supreme court, member of the supremey made it abundantly clear states it clear that if he states it clearly in the bill and he said he's read the bill as far as he's read the bill and as far as he's read the bill and as far as he's he does state it he's concerned, he does state it perfectly clearly, the supreme court the of court will accept the will of parliament because what happens. >> court doesn't happens. >> laws. court doesn't happens. >> laws. it court doesn't happens. >> laws. it implements�*sn't happens. >> laws. it implements the make laws. it implements the law. if parliament its law. and if parliament makes its views hasn't in views clear, which it hasn't in this will implement it. this bill, it will implement it. but heard from arron, but what we've heard from arron, again, lot of again, we've heard a lot of bluster. is not one plan bluster. there is not one plan to deport an illegal immigrant out country anywhere out of this country anywhere else. that is the labour party does not believe in deporting , do

lord sumption, who a former sumption, who was a former member the supreme court, member of the suprememade it abundantly clear states it clear that if he states it clearly in the bill and he said he's read the bill as far as he's read the bill and as far as he's read the bill and as far as he's he does state it he's concerned, he does state it perfectly clearly, the supreme court the of court will accept the will of parliament because what happens. >> court doesn't happens. >> laws. court doesn't happens. >> laws. it court doesn't happens. >> laws. it implements�*sn't happens. >> laws. it implements the make laws. it implements the law. if parliament its law. and if parliament makes its views hasn't in views clear, which it hasn't in this will implement it. this bill, it will implement it. but heard from arron, but what we've heard from arron, again, lot of again, we've heard a lot of bluster. is not one plan bluster. there is not one plan to deport an illegal immigrant out country anywhere out of this country anywhere else. that is the labour party does not believe in deporting , does

lord sumption. no no, no, no. patsy at all. former supreme court judge. he says it'll be fine.country. if not europe. he country. yeah, if not europe. he says this is going work. says this is going to work. well, why don't you trust their judgement? >> well, we've had a range of different i mean, different legal opinion. i mean, we've star chamber , we've also had the star chamber, which raised significant concerns the bill. concerns about the bill. >> they not in the same >> are they not in the same league as lawyers the star league as lawyers, the star chamber, are they? bill is league as lawyers, the star cigreater, are they? bill is league as lawyers, the star cigreat man, they? bill is league as lawyers, the star cigreat man, buty? bill is league as lawyers, the star cigreat man, but he'sll is league as lawyers, the star cigreat man, but he'sll a is a great man, but he's not a lawyer. i think what it's not just mark, i'm bill cash on the star chamber. just mark, i'm bill cash on the sta we'veiber. just mark, i'm bill cash on the sta we've also got people like >> we've also

that's what lord wolfson has said. that's what lord sumption has said.r supreme court justice. we need to be there for the british people. delivering for them. >> how confident are you of winning tonight? will it be a tight vote? >> look, just hope that all >> look, i just hope that all colleagues really think seriously about this. this a seriously about this. this is a second reading a bill second reading of a to bill have the toughest immigration controls country has ever controls this country has ever seen. that's what's on the table tonight . anybody who isn't tonight. anybody who isn't backing that has got to really have a good look in the mirror today. i want to see everybody supporting this. everybody is supporting this. everybody is supporting the prime minister who bringing forward the who is bringing forward the toughest possible legislation in this space. >> mps vote against will >> mps who vote against will lose like whipping lose the whip, like whipping matters the matters are a matter for the chief whip. >> i'm there to help support colleag

. >> emily lord sumption, a senior judge, has said today it will work on early on. philip davis, a known right winger . he philip davis, a known right winger. he supporting it. philip davis, a known right winger. he supporting it . we may winger. he supporting it. we may not know if it works until , not know if it works until, frankly, it's too late really for any political benefit for the for the tory government before the next election. if they can't take any flights off until later spring, next year, it might be too, too late, but it might be too, too late, but it might be too, too late, but it might work. and then the government is putting all this effort behind it. we've had suella interviewed on suella braverman interviewed on the today for first the media today for the first time and she time in an interview, and she wants try and wants the government to try and change law as it goes change the law as it goes through parliament make it through to parliament make it to make a complete opt make it almost a complete opt out the with these with out on the echr wi