with us tonight, lorraine gabbert, a reporter for the san jose spotlight. you were at that board meeting last thursday. one school is going to stay open now, but now others could close. do we know what schools are on the chopping block? >> we don't, and there's no guarantee that even that school, aptitude, will stay open. what was revealed that evening was that the budget has projected $20.8 million deficit, and therefore at least five schools may potentially be closed. it could even be higher. it was said that that was a conservative view. >> $20 million. did i hear you right for a budget shortfall? what's the issue in alum rock for that district? >> alum rock has always struggled financially. adding to that is a loss of onetime covid funding from the federal and state government, a loss of students coming into the district, going to charter schools, and also a perceived future of less students enrolling. >> sure. what's the parents' response? we know they're upset, but then somewhat happy, i presume, that the middle school might be staying open. but now w