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judge luttig calls it unassailable, a model. a lot of other conservative lawyers are saying 9-0, the supreme court knocks this down, no questions asked. why? why do you think the split is? >> i think this decision is simply a plain reading of the u.s. constitution. it's a playing reading of section 13 of theth amendment. the supreme court has to take this case. i'm sure judge luttig would agree. it meets the criteria. you have conflicting decisions of the highest courts of several different states on an issue of the interpretation of the u.s. constitution. there is a matter of national importance and there is a lot of urgency to this. the supreme court has to take this. i'd be stunned if they didn't take this. and i read the decision. it is a very methodical, thoughtful, point-by-point interpretation and reading of the constitution. and to those who say that the decision is anti-democratic, the provision is an eligibility provision. it's an eligibility provision for office just like you have is to be 3 t5 to be president, you ha
judge luttig calls it unassailable, a model. a lot of other conservative lawyers are saying 9-0, the supreme court knocks this down, no questions asked. why? why do you think the split is? >> i think this decision is simply a plain reading of the u.s. constitution. it's a playing reading of section 13 of theth amendment. the supreme court has to take this case. i'm sure judge luttig would agree. it meets the criteria. you have conflicting decisions of the highest courts of several...
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now judge luttig is sounding the alarm again, about another constitutional question.insurrection, not just make him a really, really bad choice to be the commander in chief, but does it actually bar him from ever holding office again? judge luttig argues that under the 14th amendment trump is actually prohibited from ever being the president again. judge luttig's legal theory is being adjudicated in multiple courts in multiple states right now. judge luttig himself, this legendary legal mind, joined us to explain the thorny legal but urgent legal questions at play. and explained why donald trump's actions on january 6th put him squarely in opposition to the constitution and democracy there selves. >> the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election was not and is not politics. this is, as we now know from the indictments of the former president by the department of justice and jack smith, these were grave crimes against the united states of america, perhaps almost as grave as would have been treason. >> and he's back. that's where we start the hour, with former f
now judge luttig is sounding the alarm again, about another constitutional question.insurrection, not just make him a really, really bad choice to be the commander in chief, but does it actually bar him from ever holding office again? judge luttig argues that under the 14th amendment trump is actually prohibited from ever being the president again. judge luttig's legal theory is being adjudicated in multiple courts in multiple states right now. judge luttig himself, this legendary legal mind,...
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judge michael luttig, let me start with you. this when the supreme court of colorado was clear that that was an insurrection and hence, donald trump fits the description of the 14th amendment, so not tell me what happened because clearly this will end up at the supreme court? >> thank, you ali, for having me, professor tribe and ion tonight. let me first say that this has been a courageous journey for america, not for professor tribe and myself, the colorado supreme court decision yesterday now becomes the test of america's commitment to its democracy, its constitution and to the rule of law. the 14th amendment section three, actually is one of the most pro democracy visions in the constitution of the united states. and in section three, in particular. the constitution tells us that it is not the disqualification of a person under section three that is anti-democratic, but rather, it is the conduct that it can give rise to disqualification, under the 14th amendment. this is the constitution of the american people. this is not a
judge michael luttig, let me start with you. this when the supreme court of colorado was clear that that was an insurrection and hence, donald trump fits the description of the 14th amendment, so not tell me what happened because clearly this will end up at the supreme court? >> thank, you ali, for having me, professor tribe and ion tonight. let me first say that this has been a courageous journey for america, not for professor tribe and myself, the colorado supreme court decision...
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>> i have to respectfully disagree with judge luttig. i am flabbergasted that the court did not find this case to be of such exceptional importance to allow an expedited review. since 2019 the supreme court has agreed to expedite hearings 19 times. what this will mean is that there is oral argument january 29 before an all-female panel on the d.c. circuit. they have a right to request a rehearing. that is going to take time. they have to set up a briefing schedule and determine when those arguments will happen. this whole time that this happens, the proceedings before the judge are stayed, meaning nothing can happen. no questionnaires sent out to jurors, absolutely nothing. when this whole process gets done, the three-judge panel, then the full-court, en banque, and finally there is no guarantee that there will be an on -- an en banque hearing. it is not favored and will only be ordered if, and this is the language from the statute, if the case that is meets the exceptional case criteria. there is going to be a lot of delay here. things
>> i have to respectfully disagree with judge luttig. i am flabbergasted that the court did not find this case to be of such exceptional importance to allow an expedited review. since 2019 the supreme court has agreed to expedite hearings 19 times. what this will mean is that there is oral argument january 29 before an all-female panel on the d.c. circuit. they have a right to request a rehearing. that is going to take time. they have to set up a briefing schedule and determine when those...
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michael luttig. judge, thank you for coming on. what is your reaction to this ruling from the colorado supreme court? >> thank you for having me on tonight, pam. the individual justices of the colorado supreme court brought honor to their court and as well to the state and federal judiciaries with their opinion tonight in this historic case. the court meticulously and methodically addressed siri at am, the many state issues and federal constitutional issues that were involved in the case. they martialed the support for each and every one of their decisions of state law and federal constitutional law as well as any judge could do. their opinion is unassailable under the objective law of the federal constitution and section 3 of the 14th amendment. the supreme court of the united states ought to affirm this decision today. >> so you call it unassailable, but there were three judges on this court that dissented from this decision. there are three other states that didn't agree with this decision. some of the sticking points have been
michael luttig. judge, thank you for coming on. what is your reaction to this ruling from the colorado supreme court? >> thank you for having me on tonight, pam. the individual justices of the colorado supreme court brought honor to their court and as well to the state and federal judiciaries with their opinion tonight in this historic case. the court meticulously and methodically addressed siri at am, the many state issues and federal constitutional issues that were involved in the case....
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i really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you, stephanie. >> judge michael luttig.we come back, a controversial right-wing curriculum is making its way into more classrooms. here is one big problem, accuracy. culture wars hidden in the classroom, you need to pay attention to this when the 11th hour continues. since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than $34. and this nintendo switch, sold for less than $20. i got this kitchenaid stand mixer for only $56. i got this bbq smoker for 26 bucks. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and see how much you can save. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe they're just sitting up there! sitting on all this cash. if you own a life insuranc
i really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you, stephanie. >> judge michael luttig.we come back, a controversial right-wing curriculum is making its way into more classrooms. here is one big problem, accuracy. culture wars hidden in the classroom, you need to pay attention to this when the 11th hour continues. since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than $34. and this nintendo switch, sold for less than $20. i got this kitchenaid...
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so there was time not long ago, judge luttig, where everything you wrote would seem obvious.bviously would not have to read it in that new york times, or go to an organization to proclaim these things. but here we are, and it gets one of the major concerns about the trump administration. which is that the guardrails would be gone. the people who understand how washington works and in fact respect the constitution at a very baseline level would not be around. and it would look more like the crew that was more around donald trump after the election in 2020. leading up to january 6th, what are your specific concerns here? >> thank you for having me on with you this morning. for reasons that we all know, reasons that are entirely related to the former presidents effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and his conduct and behavior in the three years since then, the causes of our times are america's democracy and the rule of law. and as we say and our essay in the new york times, these are righteous causes to be sure. for years now, our democracy and our rule of law have
so there was time not long ago, judge luttig, where everything you wrote would seem obvious.bviously would not have to read it in that new york times, or go to an organization to proclaim these things. but here we are, and it gets one of the major concerns about the trump administration. which is that the guardrails would be gone. the people who understand how washington works and in fact respect the constitution at a very baseline level would not be around. and it would look more like the crew...
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judge luttig said those are separate and unrelated arguments. the legal matter needs to be pursued is a legal matter. >> that's right. my job is to follow the law and uphold the constitution. when there is big questions about whether something is constitutional or not, it's appropriate to go to the courts. at the end of the day, we're only, at this point, because donald trump tried to disenfranchise americans across the country when he tried to steal the presidency in 2020. that was not satisfying. he lost that election. i think the idea that we move forward and just ignore what happened throughout 2020 and the attacks on democracy afterwards, it's also very dangerous. we know he's a threat to this country, he's a threat to voting rights, to the right to choose. he is a threat to the stability of this nation. the idea that we have an election and he loses and accept the results if he does lose, it's not going to happen. we are very likely going to be in a similar situation that we are and in 2020. >> you said it's dangerous, you mean that for de
judge luttig said those are separate and unrelated arguments. the legal matter needs to be pursued is a legal matter. >> that's right. my job is to follow the law and uphold the constitution. when there is big questions about whether something is constitutional or not, it's appropriate to go to the courts. at the end of the day, we're only, at this point, because donald trump tried to disenfranchise americans across the country when he tried to steal the presidency in 2020. that was not...
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judge luttig is a conservative's conservative. he was short listed to be named to the u.s.
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michael luttig said this is very, very important.ies one who is engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the constitution of the united states, and not an insurrection against the united states and not the authority of the united states. and the colorado supreme court just gave the republicans a chance to save themselves. >> and they said it offers republicans an exit in time to let some a non-sir recollectionists candidate. back to normal politics, back to a race where the biden/harris ticket faces more or less normal opponents rather than an expresident that yearns. if upheld by the supreme court the colorado court's decision might save the gop from its self. will the gop consent to be rescued. this reminds me what liz cheney was saying on monday night that there are other candidates that can stand up for this party and bring it back to its roots, and actually wage a good fight. >> yeah. >> for the presidency. >> david, the question is, we look forward to what the supreme court does, and obviously you have a roberts court that,
michael luttig said this is very, very important.ies one who is engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the constitution of the united states, and not an insurrection against the united states and not the authority of the united states. and the colorado supreme court just gave the republicans a chance to save themselves. >> and they said it offers republicans an exit in time to let some a non-sir recollectionists candidate. back to normal politics, back to a race where the...
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do you agree that that decision is as, quote, irrefutable as judge luttig is saying? >> in law school we train people to see shades of gray. the judge is right, the text of section 13 of the 14th amendment would seem to be relatively absurd if it were to prohibit had the president from being included in that group of individuals who couldn't hold office pause of their participation in an insurrection. there is an equally good argument the congress passing the 14th amendment in the of the civil war didn't anticipate the prospect of an insurrectionist president. they were worried about the prospect of an insurrectionist congress or people infiltrating congress who were former members of the confederacy. for that reason there might be a good argument that maybe the president isn't included. these shades are gray are important. when it comes down to it, this court is going to be driven by practicalities the way it was in bush v. gore and i think if we uphold this decision in colorado it's going to invite other decisions of a similar nature in other parts of the country an
do you agree that that decision is as, quote, irrefutable as judge luttig is saying? >> in law school we train people to see shades of gray. the judge is right, the text of section 13 of the 14th amendment would seem to be relatively absurd if it were to prohibit had the president from being included in that group of individuals who couldn't hold office pause of their participation in an insurrection. there is an equally good argument the congress passing the 14th amendment in the of the...
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>> i would not argue with judge luttig on this one. there are many things that are undemocratic. rock obama cannot run for a third term, the constitution says he can't. if taylor swift wants to run for president, she is not old enough, on and on it goes. you must be a native born american. there are lots of requirements. that's the point, we are here to uphold the constitution. we have a constitution or we don't. the constitution is pretty clear. if you ate an insurrection, you don't get to hold a federal office. that was in the wake of the uprising, the civil war in the 19th century. we're back again after an uprising, this time on january 6th. so, what the founders said, once you tried to overthrow the government, you can't come back and try again. the notion that, oh, well, we should take care of this at the ballot box, last time we tried that, he held an insurrection. so, i think it's time to apply the constitution. there is a legitimate argument whether the 14th amendment is a, as they say, self executed, whether you need critical judgment, congressional action. i think the
>> i would not argue with judge luttig on this one. there are many things that are undemocratic. rock obama cannot run for a third term, the constitution says he can't. if taylor swift wants to run for president, she is not old enough, on and on it goes. you must be a native born american. there are lots of requirements. that's the point, we are here to uphold the constitution. we have a constitution or we don't. the constitution is pretty clear. if you ate an insurrection, you don't get...
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you heard judge luttig saying supreme court could take it. supreme court could say this is colorado's decision and its with them. what do you think happens? >> yeah, i think this is a tough one to call. but the problem here, if the supreme court doesn't take it, is that you could end up with a patchwork quilt of states across the country making different rulings as to whether the former president could be on the ballot. i've heard andrew express this same view. i tend to think that the court will find some sort of a procedural off-ramp that lets them make a finding that trump can't be excluded from the ballot. perhaps it will be that he didn't get sufficient process early on in the colorado proceedings. even with that, there is this delay issue that goes on. anytime you have these rulings, trump will certainly wait until the last minute if he can, to go to the supreme court, in an effort to further delay proceedings. that is really the whole game here. even with the immunity case, for instance, if the supreme court differs and lets the court
you heard judge luttig saying supreme court could take it. supreme court could say this is colorado's decision and its with them. what do you think happens? >> yeah, i think this is a tough one to call. but the problem here, if the supreme court doesn't take it, is that you could end up with a patchwork quilt of states across the country making different rulings as to whether the former president could be on the ballot. i've heard andrew express this same view. i tend to think that the...
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. >> >> it is hard to argue with judge luttig and the findings. when you look at the section, it appears to apply to him. but hard to agree that the supreme court will say that single state can kick someone off the ballot. think about what would happen if certain states does, certain states didn't. so whether a federalism issue, a political question, i feel like the supreme court will overturn it. >> and so let's also look at the dissents. people are saying that there is no precedent. some say that what is said in the 14th amendment, that presidential yi leelectors shou be able to hold any office. but it doesn't mention the pres presidency. so why so? >> that is why the lower court said it didn't apply to trump because the presidency is not taken. the president's oath is a little different than the oath for the offices enumerated in section 3, so that is one of the big legal questions, does it actually apply to the presidency itself as an office. that is the basis understand which it was determined in colorado. certainly the supreme court will dec
. >> >> it is hard to argue with judge luttig and the findings. when you look at the section, it appears to apply to him. but hard to agree that the supreme court will say that single state can kick someone off the ballot. think about what would happen if certain states does, certain states didn't. so whether a federalism issue, a political question, i feel like the supreme court will overturn it. >> and so let's also look at the dissents. people are saying that there is no...
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as conservative judge and constitutional expert michael luttig said: fourteenth amendment is "a validon of the constitution. it has to remain enforced and that's what the judges in the colorado supreme court have done." the fourteenth amendment is "a valid provision of the constitution. yes, and the 14th amendment says that if you tried to destroy our democracy, you can't come back and try again. it's the same reason i'm not letting my appendix back into my abdomen no matter "how" it polls in iowa. >> inte [cheers and applause] no surprise, the trump campaign said it planned to appeal to the u.s. supreme court. i'm guessing someone's gonna start calling in favors. "you owe me, kavanaugh. you too, amy coney barrett. you're just a weird home school kid who won a contest. and gorsuch, you weren't even a judge: pretty sure i found you playing frankenstein at six flags halloween horror nights." and let us not forget, there's also clarence thomas. [booing] in the news a lot this year for all the free stuff he's hiding under that robe. according to propublica, conservative billionaires have
as conservative judge and constitutional expert michael luttig said: fourteenth amendment is "a validon of the constitution. it has to remain enforced and that's what the judges in the colorado supreme court have done." the fourteenth amendment is "a valid provision of the constitution. yes, and the 14th amendment says that if you tried to destroy our democracy, you can't come back and try again. it's the same reason i'm not letting my appendix back into my abdomen no matter...
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and michael luttig said it is self executing. and i want to throw up this graphic. because there are three trump repre related cases that could have massive impacts on the 2024 election. i just wonder what do you see as the most consequential. and do you think that there is a chance, a darknger in effect th the trump delay strategy could push key decisions around his accountability for january 6 because of the election lies to after the election and could that be a case where, you know, delay is denial of justice? >> i think chances for delay are very high. >> past the election though? >> well, i think that if you get close enough to the election, that will happen. because i don't know that they will want to be trying things within like let's say a month or something of the election. and i think that the delay tactics are very smart on his team's part. and really for the doj cases, they always face a high bar here because of the speed that they have to move. no chance at all the mar-a-lago case will go in time. best case scenario is the d.c. one. of those three case
and michael luttig said it is self executing. and i want to throw up this graphic. because there are three trump repre related cases that could have massive impacts on the 2024 election. i just wonder what do you see as the most consequential. and do you think that there is a chance, a darknger in effect th the trump delay strategy could push key decisions around his accountability for january 6 because of the election lies to after the election and could that be a case where, you know, delay...
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. >> judge michael luttig is a former federal judge. we will be right back. be right back. zero heartburn. >>> not some news that broke late yesterday, to colorado paramedics have been convicted in the death of elijah mcclain. you remember back in 2019, this man 23 world mcclain was detained by police in aurora, colorado while walking home after a 9-1-1 call reported that the unarmed black man looked quote, sketchy. two paramedics injected mcclain with a dose of the powerful sedative ketamine after police had already put him in a chokehold and pen into the ground. on friday, a jury found the paramedics guilty of criminally negligent homicide. prosecutors claim the paramedics did not conduct basic health checks on maclean before giving him the ketamine, nor did they check on him after administering it. doctors say the ketamine left mcclain near death and he died days later in the hospital. the paramedics, jimmy hubert and peter to cognac to be sentenced to years in prison. three police officers were also prosecuted in earlier trials. after his verdict, mcclain
. >> judge michael luttig is a former federal judge. we will be right back. be right back. zero heartburn. >>> not some news that broke late yesterday, to colorado paramedics have been convicted in the death of elijah mcclain. you remember back in 2019, this man 23 world mcclain was detained by police in aurora, colorado while walking home after a 9-1-1 call reported that the unarmed black man looked quote, sketchy. two paramedics injected mcclain with a dose of the powerful...
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so when i've seen other conservatives who have followed this closely like a judge luttig or george conway are coming together to have a republicans for a rule of law type of group, i think that is going to be critical going forward where republicans can explain the difference between what are timeless conservative principles that have led to success in the past and what is different and how this is authoritarian -- >> but there's a difference -- >> but there needs to be a place where those people can -- >> there is. but there's a difference between book sales and votes. >> of course. >> and i don't think i have seen for those people who have put out these books, there's been a number of them, who say i had this change of heart or who talk about what that experience was like for them, they have not figured out how to survive into the next version of -- >> i really like when i hear cheney talk about, she seems to really enjoy reaching out to young conservatives, particularly young conservative women. i would expect her and i would encourage her to keep developing efforts on that front. >> b
so when i've seen other conservatives who have followed this closely like a judge luttig or george conway are coming together to have a republicans for a rule of law type of group, i think that is going to be critical going forward where republicans can explain the difference between what are timeless conservative principles that have led to success in the past and what is different and how this is authoritarian -- >> but there's a difference -- >> but there needs to be a place...
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there was also i guess about a year or two now, but a group of lawyers like judge tom griffith and mike luttig and judge ginsberg who went through all of the allegations of fraud in each of these states and went through very carefully these very good lawyers and former judges and election lawyers and discounted all of these and needs more highlighting of the very detailed legal work that has been done. we felt there weren't enough people out there highlighting and we wanted to give more voice to that. and new legal things that come out of the guy who is the republican nominee and speak out to that and support people like our election workers who often don't have the voice at the microphone and people need to protect them. doug: one of the things we have seen, not just members of congress and supreme court justices that are on the receiving ends of these threats but local level, a local judge, election worker. we saw that a lot in the 2020 election. we did not see as much in 2022. but when you hear the words across the country, election workers are getting scared. various states are having trou
there was also i guess about a year or two now, but a group of lawyers like judge tom griffith and mike luttig and judge ginsberg who went through all of the allegations of fraud in each of these states and went through very carefully these very good lawyers and former judges and election lawyers and discounted all of these and needs more highlighting of the very detailed legal work that has been done. we felt there weren't enough people out there highlighting and we wanted to give more voice...
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judge michael luttig, one of the most prominent conservative voices written an opposition to donald trumpuing it's not too late. he is leading the american bar association's task force to american democracy alongside jeh johnson, president obama's security, secretary of homeland security. the goal here is to outline meaningful steps that could be taken to preserve and protect our democratic institutions. joining me now is jeh johnson, former secretary of homeland security under president obama, now co-chair of the aba's task force for american democracy. secretary johnson, thank you for joining me for what i hope could be somewhat positive, optimistic, or at least uplifting conversation. >> thanks for having me, alex. >> thanks for coming on the set. first, tell me about the fact the american bar association is getting involved in an effort to preserve democracy. what, legally speaking, can and should be done ahead of the next election? >> first of all, it is not just the aba, it is state bar associations who have thrown in with us, and the task force we have assembled or not just lawyers
judge michael luttig, one of the most prominent conservative voices written an opposition to donald trumpuing it's not too late. he is leading the american bar association's task force to american democracy alongside jeh johnson, president obama's security, secretary of homeland security. the goal here is to outline meaningful steps that could be taken to preserve and protect our democratic institutions. joining me now is jeh johnson, former secretary of homeland security under president obama,...
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president of the responsibility of -- at the top of the next hour, i will be speaking to judge michael luttig, who along with the constitutional scholar, lawrence tribe, was one of the first to popularize and promote the idea that section three of the 14th amendment disqualifies donald trump from being on the ballot. still ahead, the death toll in gaza has now surpassed 20,000 according to the got the health ministry. nbc news cannot verify those numbers. you know what? we can virtually never verify death counts in a war. we do have reason to believe those numbers are pretty accurate. we will explain why, in great yield, after the break. and ipad and apple watch se - all on us. only on verizon. honey... honey... nyquil severe honey. powerful cold and flu relief with a dreamy honey taste. nyquil honey, the nighttime, sniffing, sneezing, couging, aching, fever, honey-licious, best sleep with a cold, medicine. a force to be reckon with. no, not you saquon. hm? you! your business bank account with quickbooks money, now earns 5% apy. 5% apy? that's new! yup, that's how you business differently. >>
president of the responsibility of -- at the top of the next hour, i will be speaking to judge michael luttig, who along with the constitutional scholar, lawrence tribe, was one of the first to popularize and promote the idea that section three of the 14th amendment disqualifies donald trump from being on the ballot. still ahead, the death toll in gaza has now surpassed 20,000 according to the got the health ministry. nbc news cannot verify those numbers. you know what? we can virtually never...