>> he will ease stefanik had a blunt response to magill's resignation, one down, two doing.t polo sandoval explains what happened here. >> reporter: in back to back resignations the president of the university of pennsylvania announcing that she would step down just moments before the university official who made her announcement announced that he, too, would be resigning. liz magill announced on saturday that she would be stepping down from her position as u penn president. per university statement she will remain tenured faculty at the university's law school and agreed to stay on board while they find an interim replacement. as we've reported before, students, faculty, even donors say that they lost confidence in magill after tuesday's pretty disastrous hearing in which she, long with the presidents of harvard and mit failed to explicitly say that calls for genocide of jews would immediately violate the respective university's codes of conduct. moments after magill's saturday evening announcement scott vox said that he would be stepping down as chairman of the board of tr

he then rights magill was "not herself last tuesday during this testimony." and then finally, said that she, at the time of her testimony was over prepared and overlawyered. so what we're getting here, jim, a sense of trying to explain what was just an absolutely disastrous testimony that was received on capitol hill on tuesday. >> yeah. it was a disaster indeed. polo, thank you. joining us to talk about this, democratic congressman steve cohen of tennessee. congressman, what's your response to this fallout? the president of the university of pennsylvania and the head of the board? both stepping aside? >> well, i was hoping they could just have a come to jesus moment. what was called for. she obviously thought she should resign so did the chairman of the board pap disaster for the committee. she and the two other college presidents seemed like they read the same footnotes on, prepped by the same person and all seemed stiff, dispassionate and inhumane. i think that the president of harvard and m.i.t. need to give serious thought to what their futures should be

liz magill says, look, we're going to reevaluate our policy. do you think this kind of hate speech should be banned on college campuses? >> elite schools like the penns, the harvards, mits, the ones that are private, not bound by the first amendment, this is the nightmare scenario where they're saying, you know what? this speech thing has become too politically inconvenient. we're going to torpedo it all. they have a right to do that. but as liz magill said, they have followed the constitution for decades and decades. we don't want to see our elite institutions saying, now we're going to give power over folks like liz magill to make decisions about what can be said. >> is the bigger problem that these elite institutions have become more politicized over the years? our fareed zakaria has written a piece on that. they're no longer seen as a bastion of colleges but a push for agenda. >> this is a place where our college university leaders have lost sight of what their role is where they're supposed to be utterly apolitical. that requires not elimi

first, the board chair scott bok sent out a letter saying the president liz magill is out. then scott bok sent out a letter saying he's out, too. make no mistake. both these leaders were under pressure for months, as he just said. it was over issues of antisemitism on campus. but tuesday's hearing which can only be described as disastrous was the final straw. that hearing lasted for hours. but it really just came down to just the precious few minutes where the leaders of penn and harvard and m.i.t. struggled. they struggled to answer a question that many people would think would be easy to answer. does calls for genocide of jews, does that break the school's rules. and the leaders including magill, they fumbled that response. they did give kind of a legal answer. and that moment went viral on the internet. it just exploded. the back lash was so intense. we heard from the walmarton board of advisers, the wharton board of advisers. they called for an immediate leadership change at the school. more than 70 members of congress. it is hard to degree 70 members to agree on anythi

i think that's going to be important in the coming months. >> that was a sudden fall for liz magill, president of upenn, she will remain as the interim president, i should say, and she will also stay on as a tenured professor at the law school there at upenn. but i guess it doesn't come as a surprise considering just the backlash. what are your thoughts on her resignation? >> well, look, that was a very difficult and damaging social media moment during the hearings. leadership sometimes requires more than legal answers. it requires a kind of emotional answer. and i think, you know, that moment went viral, as we say, and people lost confidence. but i do hope we can focus on campuses, campus policy and nurturing a good student life for debate because we need universities at this moment to have the discussions, the difficult discussions that are necessary that are difficult to do outside campus life. >> right. debate is necessary and, of course, universities are usually the gathering point where people come to debate these difficult issues, but there has to be a line drawn between debat

a student on magill not even acknowledging wrongdoing. listen. >> another example of failed leadership. i think leave with some sort of grace and huberous, but you can leave without acknowledging anything wrong that has been done, and you can put out that statement. >> sandra: you think about what the campuses, what the students are going through, and the wake of all this right now, your thoughts. >> so, a great example, he gave an amazing speech what he's been doing through at u-penn and the way he's been targeted as a jewish student at the university. i think what's happening at these colleges is terrifying for jewish students. i hear from students all the time at various colleges around the country saying i'm being targeted for being a jew. and it has very little to do with israel, actually. i think people need to understand that. like the idea that just because they support israel that's ok to target them is a wild one for me. i have friends who are ukrainian, they are not expected to be targeted because they support ukraine in the wa

magill has campus very uncomfortable. the university's long standing policies that say that speech alone is not punishable. but many say it's too little too late. former students and current students are calling for her resignation and there's a public petition that's garnered more than 20,000 signatures asking for her to step down. we want to focus now on the last meal of a long—extinct creature. scientists in canada have revealed the remains of a young dinosaur dating back 75 million years. in its fossilised stomach they discovered the hind legs bones of two baby dinosaurs it probably ate as its last meal. victoria gill has more. entombed in 75 million—year—old rock. this is a gorgosaurus. the backbone would have been here. you can see all the ribs... it's a type of tyrannosaur, a close cousin of t—rex. but this fossil is hiding the remains of something else. what was uncovered when the fossil was being cleaned at the museum is that there were toe bones of a very small dinosaurfound between the individual ribs of the ty

>> and, of course, polo, after that, magill put out a video that we've seen, where magill essentially said she was trying a little too hard, just paraphrasing here, to err on the side of protecting free speech as opposed to really definitively slamming and slapping down the idea of genocide and anti-semitism. we have a little bit of that sound, let's play that, as well, just to walk our viewers through what's occurred. >> in that moment, i was focused on our university's long-standing to policies al aligned with the u.s. constitution that say speech alone is not punishable. i was not focused on, but i should have been, the irrefutable fact that the call for genocide of jewish people is a call for some of the most terrible violence human beings can perpetrate. >> so obviously, snowballing, came to a head, and i think our athena jones reported in the last 24 hours mounting pressure within the board of trustees at per penn. to ask president ma goigill to down. sound as though this statement won't come as surprise to the penn community and academia across the united states and there was m

let's start with liz magill. she announced she would be stepping down from her position as upenn president for the university. she will remain as tenured faculty at the law school there and agreed to stay on board while they find an interim replacement. as we've reported, students, faculty, staff, donors which are certainly a critical piece of this, all losing confidence. at least, many of them losing confidence in magill after that disastrous testimony on tuesday in which she along with thees from at m.i.t. and harvard failed to explicitly say that calls for the genocide of jewish people would not immediately violate the university's code of conduct. and then moments after we learned of her resignation, scott bok saying that he, too, would be stepping down from his position as the chair of the board of trustees at the university in a statement, bok wrote, quote, former president liz magill last week made a very unfortunate misstep. following that, it became clear that her position was no longer tenable and she a

the ivy league school board of trustee chair writing in a letter president liz magill has voluntarily tendered her resignation. during 5 hours of congressional testimony on tuesday, it was just a momentary exchange that created a fire storm for the university head. >> i am asking, specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment >> if it is directed and severe and pervasive, it is harassment if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment, yes. >> conduct meaning committing the act of genocide >> reporter: new york congresswoman elise stefanik pressed, but magill's failure to flatly reject calls for genocide resulted in widespread backlash including from the governor of pennsylvania >> liz magill failed to meet that simple task mchb. >> reporter: following the hearing she tried to clarify her remarks with this video. >> i was focused on our university's long-standing policies aligned with the u.s. constitution, which say that speech alone is not punishable. i was not focused on what i should have been, the irrefutable that that a call for

the story now from cbs' nikole killion. >> reporter: university of pennsylvania president liz magill stepped down from her role saturday telling the school community in a short statement "it has been my privilege to serve as president of this remarkable institution," but made no reference to the firestorm surrounding her system last week to the house education committee about anti-semitism on college campuses. >> does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct? yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment, yes. it is a context-dependent decision, congresswoman. >> it's a context-dependent decision? that's your testimony today, calling for the genocide of jews is depending upon the context? >> reporter: new york congresswoman elise stefanik who questioned magill and the presidents of harvard and mit posted, "one down, two to go. this forced resignation of the president of penn is the bare minimum of what is required." a house panel has opened an investigation with subpoena power into the universities. >> this is not just confined t

this is after magill and the presidents of harvard and m.i.t.e asked if calling for the genocide of jews would violate their universities code of conduct. >> reporter: in back-to-back resignation announcements, the president of the university of pennsylvania announced she would be stepping down from her position moments before the university official who made her announcement also said that he, too, would be resigning. liz magill announced saturday she would be stepping down from her position as upenn president per a university statement she will remain tenured faculty at the university's law school and agreed to stay on while they find an interim replacement. as we have reported, students, faculty, the community in general has said that they lost confidence in magill after tuesday's congressional hearing in which she and the presidents of m.i.t. and harvard failed to explicitly say that calls for genocide of jews would immediately violate their university's codes of conduct. now, moments after magill's announcement, scott bok said he, too, woul

clearly, mixed views on this campus and a lot of pressure still building on president magill, boris.ones live from philadelphia. thank you so much. breonna? >>> our president claudine also under intense scrutiny following her testimony this week. listen to her response when the director asked about some of the hateful speech she has seen on her campus. >> so, the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of jews violates harvard code of conduct. correct? >> again, it depends on the context. >> i'm joined by jake miller, a harvard student, also the president of harvard -- jacob, thank you for taking the time to be with us. what was your initial reaction to that testimony that you heard from your school's president earlier this week? >> thank you for having me, brianna. i was very shocked to see that testimony. you know, i think we have to ask ourselves the question how we got here. that the presidents of the top universities in this country are testifying before congress and can't say that genocide against jews would constitute a violation of the code of conduct. you know, if they

ms magill said it was �*context dependent�*.ednesday, but it failed to quell further criticism. let�*s just take a listen to that angry exchange from capitol hill on tuesday that kicked off this controversy. does calling for the genocide ofjews violate penn�*s code of conduct when it comes to harassment, yes or no? it can be harassment. i was focused on our universities long—standing policies are aligned with the us constitution, which say that speech alone is not punishable. live now to our correspondent nomia iqbal, she�*s at the university of pennsylvania getting the latest for us. good to see you there. what are the students saying about the president�*s testimony and apology as well? president's testimony and apology as well?- president's testimony and aolo: aswell? , , , apology as well? many students here are frustrated. _ apology as well? many students| here are frustrated. remember, the university of pennsylvania is home to a largejewish student population and they feel that president magill could have given more moral

said magill will stay on until an interim president is announced in the coming days.e will remain a tenured faculty member here at penn. >>> houston is waking up to new leadership this morning. the city elected democratic state senator john witmer as its next mayor last night. he is one of texas is most influential democratic legislators. the 74-year-old went up against congresswoman jackson-lee, who was running to become houston's first black female mayor. woodmere built up a huge lead winning by 30 percentage points. his campaign put him at the helm of the u.s. fourth-largest city focused on reducing crime, improving streets, and bringing people together. >> we ran a positive campaign. we will have a safer city and we will quit kicking problems down the road. we are not new york , chicago or l.a. we are houston and we fix our problems. >> he will be the oldest big city mayor in the united states . he will be replacing sylvester turner, who has been there for the last eight years cannot run again because of term limits. >>> still to come this morning, a brush fire in

ms magill said it was "context dependent."o on wednesday, but it failed to quell further criticism. for reaction from campus, our correspondent nomia iqbal joined me a short time ago from the university of pennsylvania. what are the students saying about the president testimony and apology as well?- and apology as well? many students — and apology as well? many students here _ and apology as well? many students here are - and apology as well? many students here are very - students here are very frustrated. the university of pennsylvania is home to a large jewish student population and they feel that liz magill could have given more clarity, more moral clarity when answering the question. i spoke to two of them. it would be uncomfortable, a lot of my friends, large communities are very uncomfortable on campus. statements like that, really should not be accepted. again, i understand the legal aspects. a jewish i understand the legal aspects. ajewish student on campus, i have _ ajewish student on campus, i have been_ ajewish stud

she said that that liz magill response looks like a hostage video. he said that she lost confidence in her ability to lead. >> matt egan. thank you so much for the update. breonna? >>> this just in may have learned of now that president biden spoke today with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to, quote, discuss the latest developments in israel and gaza. this is happening at the strikes and the suffering are continuing in gaza today, exactly two months since the beginning of the war one hamas slaughtered some 1200 people in israel. israeli defense forces say they have breached hamas is, quote, defense lines in several locations, including in khan yunis in the south. a warning now that the video you are about to see is disturbing. what it shows is the flood of wounded palestinians. as you can see, many of them children, rushing today into nasr hospital in the city after the strikes. the hamas-run palestinian health ministry says more than 17,000 people have been killed in gaza. another 46,000 wounded since october 7th. i want to turn now to cn

magill didn't just resign, she's just going to the law school to teach. million to the university. hopefully mit and harvard hear from their donors issue as well, it is all about the money. under dr. foxx's leadership, there is a further investigation into the schools, we will subpoena records, e-mails, documents, anything that proves this is not a safe environment for jewish studentless and if they are not, we will pull federal funding. if it is about the money to get universities to do the right thing, they could lose major donation and federal funding that makes universities work. >> ainsley: here is flashback of you grilling president magill last week. >> why did penn let professor amalla, off the hook who led chanting there is only one solution, intifada, why does he still have a job at your university? >> it is guided by the u.s. constitution, allows for robust -- >> ainsley: there is freedom of speech, are there -- she is tenured, are there exceptions where you can still fire someone? >> for magill and other college presidents, there is major doubl

>> and in that, was the moment it ended magill's tenure.is david rothkopf, columnist for the daily beast and a whole host of the deep spate space broadcast. david, thank you for being here. in your view, and you've written a column about the disingenuousness of the attack on these presidents. why, in your view, would that not be a fireable offense to answer in that way? >> first of all, context does matter. no one was calling for genocide against jews. some people were criticizing the policies of the government of israel. other people were calling for the palestinian state was continuous between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea. now in some contexts doing things like that might be antisemitic's. in some context it might be hate speech but in others in a seminar discussing the origins for example of the current israel palestine situation, it's not hate speech. and so her answer was right. but the real problem that we have here is not just that her answer was correct. it's that the person who was posing this hypothetical question is

plus, tracking a university president, liz magill so far staying put. talk to one student who says while magill needs to go, the policies allowing anti-semitism on campus need to go with her. and the battle over border security is far from over as the situation at the border is far from improved. we're on the push by republicans to pick fix it by tying ukraine aid to it. and we are over it, all of it, starting now. ♪ neil: happy weekend, everybody. glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. we begin right now on the hunter biden business and the fallout for dad who's' out west. right now we we get thest from the white house where you'll find our lucas tomlinson. >> reporter: well, neil, the 56-page indictment does not accuse president biden of doing anything wrong, but recall back in may president biden said his son did nothing wrong. the doj says otherwise. and let's read part of the indictment. quote: between 2016 and october 15th, 2020, that's about a month before the election, neil, the defendant spent this money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury ho

president liz magill resigning saturday afternoon. announcement made via letter from the ivy league chair, scott bok, who also stepped down. magill wrote, it has been my privilege to serve as president of this institution. it comes after days of mounting pressure, following magill's appearance at a house hearing on anti-semitism, where she had this exchange. >> i am asking, specifically calling for the genocide of juice, does that constitute bullying or harassment? >> if it is directed ander is severe pervasive. if it has conduct, it is harassment, yes. >> conduct meaning the genocide? >> reporter: backlash from students, faculty, business leaders and lawmakers. >> leaders have a responsibility to speak and act with moral clarity and liz magill failed to meet that test. >> reporter: stefanik pressed the presidents of harvard and m.i.t., who face similar pressure to resign. after the hearing, magill attempted to clarify her remarks. >> i was not focused on, but i should have been, the irrefutable fact that a call for genocide of jewish

and the university of pennsylvania president liz magill resigns. is this part of a broader effort to restrict pro-palestinian speech on campus? all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. israel's unrelenting assault on the gaza strip continues as the death toll has reached 18,000 palestinians killed in just over two months. air strikes rocked the nuseirat and maghazi refugee camps in central gaza overnight, killing at least 23 people died in maghazi. air strikes also struck at least two residential homes in rafah. meanwhile, the ground battle is pushing ahead in khan younis, which is under heavy bombardment. gazan women say israeli soldiers forced them to leave their husbands and sons behind and flee their gaza city homes. they spoke from the al-aqsa hospital in central deir al-balah where they were taking refuge. >> they made us go to the south. they did not let us wait for our husbands. this had go to the south from here and that is it. they made asleep. they lied to us an

that lay bare that lucas -- so now that liz magill is out, what else needs to be done?: in the college president in this country who cannot condemn anti-semitism or jewish, they need to resign or be fired. there ought to be consequences for that because the reality is, israel is the only country in the world that is literally at risk of real genocide. that is what we are talking about here. it is disgusting, shameful, and it shouldn't be happening on college campuses. >> gillian: i want to ask you about this as well, israel has now produced over 1500 pieces of evidence that show hamas sexually assaulted women and girls on october 7th. a lot of women's groups prepare to care deeply about protecting women and have stayed largely silent, take a look at this. >> where is the solidarity for women in this country and in this world to stand up for mothers, sisters, and her daughters? >> we call upon the entire human to formally condemn hamas for these raped. >> we must respond to sexual violence wherever it happens with absolute condemnation. >> gillian: do you agree? >> nancy

the departure of liz magill is just one small step in what needs to be a marathon.ther two who testified so vulnerably in front of congress the other day also need to go, they're just as bad. but really these eye profile presidents of some of the most elite universities in the country are just a tiny part of the massive corrosion of the institutions in the united states that is being put into place by dei, diversity, equity and inclusion. it is steeped racism, essentially. it denigrates whites, jews, it session e gates people by race, and it's corroding the fundamental ideas of the united states. it rejects the ideas in the bill of rights and in the declaration of independence not just un-american, it's anti-american. and i think that one of the great things about the innocent that has just taken place in congress is that it has presented the abomination of d everything i to which all of these presidents quo their jobs in front of the nation, and it should, i hope, make people realize that there is a huge task to be done to uproot this abominable ideology and throw

he, who was present at the congress meeting with magill , is now under pressure to resign. more than 650 members of harvard university wrote a letter asking to support gay in the face of political pressure for his resignation. the authors of the letter believe that his resignation is a violation of the freedom of universities. everyone should be able to express their opinion freely in the academic environment. a survey by the university of maryland shows that in recent weeks, 81% of academics. focused on west asian studies they had to censor their expert opinions. 72 % of them said: after the start of the gaza war , they had more requirements for self-censorship. azadeh taheri of the sed and broadcasting news agency. just last time we visited everywhere , we shouldn't have searched so much, that's when irani sarai with all the discounts and special conditions, the biggest iranian sarai opened in the city of tehran with a lot of interesting events. you have to find a way to secure the budget, that is, exchange goods for goods. a new work from golliz kashi to solve your chall

. >> universty of pennsylvania president liz magill stepped down from her role saturday telling the schoolty in a short statement it has been my privilege to serve as president but it made no reference to the firestorm surrounding her testimony last week to the house education committee about antisemitism on college campuses. does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code cob duct? yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct it can be harassment, yes. >> it is a conduct-dependent decision. >> it is a conduct-dependent decision, is that your testimony, calling upon the genocide of jews is depending on context. >> elise stefanik questioned and posted one down, two to go. this forced resignation is the bare minimum of what is required. the house panel has now opened an investigation with subpoena power into the universities. >> this is not just confined to these campuses. we want to look at columbia, cornell and many, many other institutions. >> students raised their voeses. >> magill's resignation was welcomed by a pennsylvania governor who is also sits on the school's

he's calling on magill to resign and withdrawing his $100 million university donation. harvard university president, claudia gay, says she is sorry after telling congress that calling for the genocide of jews is harassment, depending on the context. now the only rabbi at harvard's newly formed antisemitism task force has now resigned, calling gay's testimony "painfully inadequate." the congressional committee on education and the workforce is opening a formal investigation into the learning environments at harvard, penn and mit. the chair woman virginia fox calling the presidents' testimony "absolutely unacceptable." adding committee members have deep concerns with their loin and failure to take steps to provide jewish students the safe learning environment they are due under law. the chair of the mit board of trustees says their president has their full and unreserved support. gillian. >> gillian: bryan, thank you. john, we are expecting resignations could come as soon as today, possibly even this hour. turns out that all the outspoken donors are really making the diff

liz magill was facing calls to step down over her testimony on capitol hill this week. republicans have accused her of downplaying campus antisemitism. in this exchange with congresswoman elise stefanik. >> specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that can stick to that bullying harassment? >> -- if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment. >> stefanik and the chair of the house education committee have both applauded liz magill 's announcement -- and served as president until a replacement is found. liz magill's statement reading in part, it is been my privilege to serve as part of this remarkable institution. -- joins me now from philadelphia with the latest. george? >> yeah, alicia, the reaction here on campus is a mixed bag right now. some students are just getting word that liz magill has stepped down, and is also stepping down tonight, the chair of the board of trustees, and mind you, pressure has been growing here for the resignation, following that grilling on capitol hill, and liz magill putting out an apology of sorts, putting out -- where s

if president magill does resign or is removed, it should foreshadow and be a signal to professors andoing unnoticed, it is going noticed -- elizabeth: eyal, that professor also should be fired. that professor should be fired today. that is unacceptable. you know, u-penn and schools across the country should be hit with racketeering charges for gouging mentioner american families -- american families with high costs and then summiting students leak you -- summits student -- subjecting students like you to harassment. ross stevens is threatening to nix his donation. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think there's such a simple solution that if you person if trait hate -- perpetrate hate, then you shouldn't be part of the -- i don't really see why this is such a complicated, you know, issue at hand. if you violate the penn code of conduct or policies and are anti-semitic and create a hostile the environment, you shouldn't be part of the penn community. again, i do just want to be clear that if president magill resigns, that is, you know, you could view it as a win, but it also means that a t

the donor, ross stevens, says he is �*appalled' by ms magill�*s stance.ays in an email seen by the bbc, "i have clear grounds to rescind he says the decision could be reviewed if a new president is put in place. the house committee on education and the workforce has also now announced it'll formally investigate harvard, penn, and mit, over what it's labelled, �*rampant antisemitism'. lawyers for president biden's son, hunter, say the nine new criminal charges against him are the result of political pressure. he's facing a second federal indictment, this time on tax evasion. prosecutors allege that he took part in a scheme to avoid paying 1.4 million dollars in taxes, while spending millions on a lavish lifestyle. he faces up to 17 years in prison if convicted. cbs news correspondent naomi ruchim gave more details on the new charges against hunter biden. they accuse the president's son of evading taxes back in 2016. they include several felonies. the indictment from a california grand jury indictment from a california grand jury alleges that instead of pay

former president liz magill will stay on here at the university of pennsylvania until a new president continue in a tenured faculty position. many board members and students hope this is an opportunity to move forward. university of pennsylvania president liz magill stepped down from her role saturday, telling the school community in a short statement, "it has been my privilege to serve as president of this remarkable institution." but it made no reference to the firestorm surrounding her testimony last week to the house education committee about antisemitism on college campuses. >> does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct? yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment, yes. it is a context-dependent decision, congresswoman. >> it's a context-dependent decision? that's your testimony today? calling for the genocide of jews is depending upon the context? >> reporter: new york congresswoman elise stefanik who questioned magill and the presidents of harvard and m.i.t. posted, "one down, two to go. this forced resignation of the

laura: magill's testimony last week was similar to gay's.nkelstine is a professor of law and philosophy at upenn. she said while magill is a brilliant person, her testimony was disastrous. prof. finkelstein: i'm not calling for a restriction of criticisms of israel or criticisms of hamas or what have you, political speech and the ability to engage. but what has gotten out of hand is the idea that free speech on campus has to include such a level of openness to any kind of speech that even the worst threats and harassment should be protected. laura: before magill's resignation, more than 70 members of congress -- all but three of whom were republican -- signed a letter demanding the three presidents step aside. they said the testimony lacked moral clarity and illuminated the problematic double standards and dehumanization of jewish communities. meanwhile, some progressive members, including the only palestinian-american in congress, rashida tlaib, say allegations of antisemitism are being weaponized to silence legitimate criticisms of israel.

ms magill said it was 'context dependent.nesday, but it failed to quell further criticism. meanwhile rabbi david walpe has resigned from harvard university's anti—semitism committee saying there was an evil ideology gripping several students and faculty members there. this calling for the genocide of dues violated pens code of contact when it comes to harassment, yes or no? i when it comes to harassment, yes or no? . , when it comes to harassment, yes or no? ., , , ., when it comes to harassment, yes or no? , ., ., no? i was focused on our universities _ no? i was focused on ourl universities long-standing no? i was focused on our - universities long-standing policies universities long—standing policies are aligned with the us constitution, which say that speech alone _ constitution, which say that speech alone is_ constitution, which say that speech alone is not— constitution, which say that speech alone is not punishable. live now to our correspondent nomia iqbal, she's at the university of pennsylvania getting the latest f

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some students want magill to stay put. this student wants a cease-fire in gaza now. >> she should talk with us, and israeli american jewish scholar of jewish studies. why hasn't that conversation happened? that is the next step. >> we represent a coalition of jewish students, palestinian students, ale lies and diverse backgrounds. it's important to know this is an issue of lives lost, that is the position that we are taking right now. >> reporter: cohen has this message for fellow jewish students who feel full faith and creditened by pro-palestinian groups. >> there is an emotional structure that serves the genocide of palestinians wherein jewish students see a palestinian flag and feel afraid for their own safety. wherein jewish students may hear a call for freedom and people have told us to feel afraid. it is our job to say we stand for safety and liberation of all people. jewish safety and palestinian safety are intertwined. >> athena jones, cnn, philadelphia. >>> former u.s. president donald trump is vying to appeal a

magill, at penn, does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct? yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment, yes. >> i am asking specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that cute bullying or harassment? >> if it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment. >> so the answer is yes? >> it is a context-dependent decision, congresswoman. >> it's a context dependent decision? that's your testimony today, calling for the genocide of jews is depending on the context? that is not bullying or harassment? this is the easiest question to answer yes, ms. magill. >> presidents of three of the country's top schools, m.i.t., harvard, and the university of pennsylvania sharply questioned this week on capitol hill over antisemitic rhetoric on their campuses. now facing massive backlash for not taking a hard-line stance against calls for genocide. >> from the river to sea -- >> from the river to the sea! >> i have not heard calling for the genocide for jews on our campus. >> but you've heard chants for intifada. >> i'v

i think it's going to be -- listen, if you have a stopwatch right now, it's her that's, magill is onnd of the day, over the weekend. let's get some names out there that i heard that, you know, because they're already are talking about possible replacements. zeke emmanuel -- cheryl: interesting. >> vijay kumar, an economist at u-penn, an interesting pick. john huntsman -- cheryl: no kidding? haven't heard that name in a while. maybe somebody that the actually knows how to run an education program not run, you know, woke ideology -- >> i think it's, listen, even if they do change the person at the top of both of these institutions, leftism and progressivism is so ingrained in the culture in both places that we're not going to see a change overnight. one of the things that came out of this whole spectacle that we've been seeing between the campus protests for the murder and massacre of jewish people including the rape of jewish women, those protests were celebrating that. cheryl: genocide, calling for genocide. >> yeah. what we've seen out of the sort of idiotic statements of people tha

>> reporter: president liz magill resigned.d the hearing. >> what it exposes is what people have been saying for a while is that there is a sense of moral ambivalence when it comes to anti-semitism. >> reporter: following magill's resignation, elise stefanik wrote one down, two to go, michael roth is president of wesley university. >> i hope they don't lose their job, because then they would be subject to the outside forces, the republican congresswoman on the one hand, but also these big donors trying to throw their weight around. and that's not good for the long range health of these schools. >> reporter: before liz oh magill's resignation, one donor threatened to pull a $100 million donation, and a harvard alum says that they are missing out on $1 billion in terminated donations in light of the controversy. harvard's president has apologized for her testimony, norah. >> norah: nikole killion, thank you. well, now to some breaking news from new york city. first responders are on the scene at an apartment building in the bronx

elizabeth magill is 57 years old. he is not from palestine. she is the daughter of a senior judge, studied law and has been the president of one of the most important american universities for many years. the war in gaza cost him dearly. losing his job. during a congressional hearing on my anti-semitism based on university rules. taking from the us constitution , i emphasized that speaking alone cannot be prosecuted. magill, along with the presidents of two other prominent universities, namely harvard and emmet , were questioned and answered in the us congress because they are not strict enough with the opponents of the zionist regime. even because their students chanted the slogan of palestinian freedom from nahr to behr. these three are silent against the call for the genocide of the jews of matt. does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct? yes or no if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment. yes, i am asking specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harass

>> reporter: president liz magill resigned.be attended the hearing. >> what it exposes is what people have been saying for a while is that there is a sense of moral ambivalence when it comes to anti-semitism. >> reporter: following lz magill's were assisted brigid's nation, elise stefanik wrote one down, two to go, michael roth is president of wesley university. >> i hope they don't lose their job, because then they would be subject to the outside forces, the republican congressman on the one hand, but also these biw their weight around, and that's not helpful for the long range of. reporter matt before liz magill's resignation, one donor threatened to pull a $100 million donation, and a harvard alum says that they are missing out on $1 billion in terminated donations in light of the controversy. harvard's president has apologized for her testimony, norah. >> norah: nikole killion, thank you. now to some breaking news from new york city, first responders are on the scene at an apartment building in the bronx that partially coll

as the week wore on, it was magill who became the poster child. a prominent penn alum withdrew a $100 million donation, a truck circled the campus with billboards calling for her to be fired. the university board of trustees will meet via phone at 5:00 p.m. tomorrow to discuss magill and a statement she's said to be working on. here is an excerpt from magill's exchange with gop representative stefanik. >> at penn does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct, yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment, yes. >> i am asking specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment? >> if it is directed and severe and pervasive, it is harassment. >> so the answer is yes? >> it is a context-dependent decision. >> the other presidents also fell back on the need for context to decide. so what do these codes of conduct referred to by stefanik say exactly, and do they apply to this specific problem? the one from the university of pennsylvania contains the following

both president elizabeth magill and board chairman scott bok resigned last night. the departures follow intense criticism over magill's equivocation at a congressional hearing last week when asked if penn would discipline students who called for the genocide of jewish people. magill was aleady dealing with the fallout from her handling of a palestinian literary conference. the heads of harvard and m.i.t. are also facing criticism over their testimony that day. harvard president claudine gray has apologized and m.i.t.'s board is supporting that school's president, sally kornbluth. and, elon musk has restored the account of conspiracy theorist and radio host alex jones on x, the social media platform formerly known as twitter. musk posted a poll asking if jones should be allowed to return and 70% of those who responded said yes. jones was banned in 2018 for abusive behavior. jones has repeatedly said that the 2012 sandy hook school massacre was staged. he's been ordered to pay families of victims nearly $1.5 billion after losing lawsuits they filed against him. jones

liz magill resigned from her position as the head of u penn yesterday after what some called shameful testimony before congress. today more than 300 harvard faculty members signed a petition supporting their president, claudine gay, urging officials to resist calls for her removal. joining me is a former donor of upenn. he pulled his donations back in october over upenn's timid response to the october 7th attacks by hamas. david, welcome back to the program. great to have you on. i knew we were going to be talking about this again. i did not know that the president of penn would be stepping down and the chair of the board of trustees. what do you make of these weekend resignations? do they go far enough? >> thank you for having me by the way. i've said all along that i don't think that firing anybody is going to solve any problem. i think that liz magill is an employee of the university, and she was doing their bidding and doing the board's bidding when she testified before congress. i think she could use an acting coach, but i don't think anything she said was out of line with what t

of course, as you mentioned, that includes liz magill. now former president of upenn who stepped down amid the mounting criticism of not just her, but presidents of harvard and m.i.t. after the congressional hearing on tuesday in which three of them failed to definitively say that calling for jewish genocide would be against the university's codes of conduct. so the result, as you mentioned, is not only that resignation, but also of scott bok, who chaired the bord ofard of trustt upenn. we did see governor josh shapiro join jewish and non-jewish leaders at a local synagogue, strongly condemning violence against all faiths and this, of course, coming after the recent spike in anti-semitic incidents. >> in whatever form, whether anti-semitism, islamophobia, racism, homophobia, it has no place here in pennsylvania! it is founded on the promise of william penn, we will not tolerate it! >> reporter: some truly passionate words there. back to that controversy plaguing those three universities that we mentioned. we do understand now according to

ms magill is the first president of a major university to leave office as part of the fallout from thegulfed campuses since october 7. turning now to the war in ukraine. in washington, there has been waning support in recent months for us aid to ukraine, particularly among republican lawmakers. it's a sign of shifting attitudes among gop voters. a november gallup poll shows that 62% of republican voters now believe the us is doing too much to help ukraine. this is up 12 points from june of the same year when the figure stood at 50%. i asked fred fleitz, who was previously the chief of staff to the national security council under president trump about those shifting republican priorities. well, there is a growing belief in the republican party that the war in ukraine has become an endless — has become endlessly deadlocked and ukraine will eventually lose this war and therefore, there is a desire that president biden put forward — he planned to end the war, planned for a ceasefire — but it's incorrect to say this is just a republican view. richard haas, president of the council on foreig

>> reporter: saturday penn president liz magill resigned. >> i'd say it's bittersweet. i think what it exposed is what a lot of us have been saying for a while now is there's this sense of moral ambivalence when it comes to anti-semitism. >> reporter: following magill's resignation, republican congresswoman elise stefanik posted on x, one down, two to go. michael roth is president of wesleyan university. >> i hope they don't lose their job because they would then be subject to these outside forces that republican congresswoman on the one hand,lso these big donors who are trying to throw their weight around. i think that's not good for the long-range health of these schools. >> reporter: before magill's resignation here at penn, at least one major donor threatened to pull a $100 million donation and a prominent harvard alum claims the university is missing out in over a billion dollars in terminated donations in light of the controversy. harvard's president has apologized for her testimony. norah. >> nikole killion, thank you. >>> well, now to some more breaking news fro

magill has since tried to walk back her remarks.dent claudine gay is doing damage control telling that she is sorry, words matter, i don't know how you could feel anything, but regret. even kamala's husband is trashing them. >> seeing the presidents of our most elite universities literally unable to call for genocide of jews as antisemitism, lack of moral clarity is unacceptable. >> judge jeanine: katie, start with you, upenn and my daughter went through, set to lose $100 million from ros stevens from stoneridge management, good for him. she's apologizing for her testimony. she had a week to prepare for that testimony fchl they had asked the question about any other group, i doubt she would have reluctance that calling for any group is violation of code of conduct. >> katie: let's be clear, these presidents are not apologizing because they found moral clarity, they are apologizing because they are losing $100 million checks and they are embarrassed about that. think about the context and getting to answers all three of them having t