tell us about marjorie fisher and other figures from this new age movement who become influential. yeah, but bernie dies tragically as you mentioned, in 1969. it's a sudden cerebral hemorrhage, quite sudden and unexpected. and this is very much an emotional blow to betty. and she finds some other friends who fill some of that space in her life. and marjorie fish is one of those. it's important, i think, to point out that when we talk about the new age movement and the word movement might be a misnomer or it's not. it's not not at all. as organized as all of that. what it is, is kind of an environment in which people become open to new ideas as to new practices, see things from all sorts of cultures and many practices that i think remain familiar in the united states today. such as tarot and psychics and astrology. right. all of these are things that internal american culture in the 1960s and 1970s as part of this new age movement. and marjorie fish then becomes someone who introduces betty to many of these ideas. she is, as you say, someone who interested in ufos. when john fuller'