mark leibovich, you knew howard and worked with him. certainly, i know, like me, you had to look up to him because, man, he was a titan at "newsweek" and beyond. >> like a lot of people in this business, i mean, who you look up to, you know them first as a byline. i remember when i was first starting out in journalism, "newsweek" was at the peak of its powers. i used to love reading "newsweek" for its political stuff. i think it was the 1992 cycle, i was in my 20s. i was up in new hampshire for the first time for a presidential primary, and i met howard fineman, this giant who i had been reading for many, many years. he was then at "newsweek," and i was somewhat in awe. he could not have been nicer. he was helpful in showing me around, introducing me to people. loved to tell stories. he kind of got the joke in that kind of wise guy, political reporter way. i always appreciated seeing someone who was so -- you know, he loved the game, he loved journalism, but also loved what was inherit to what we do. especially when we'd run into each o

mark leibovich. a lot of drama. through it. >> bryson dechambeau began the fourth day of the tournament several strokes up. rory mcilroy reversed it. went up two with four, five to play. then you had one of the epic collapses in golf. this is a guy, joe, who made close to 500 putts in a row of the length of the two he missed. . >> oh, my goodness. >> it was about as much of a mental meltdown as you see. it is an interesting question, will he be able to come back from this? this was painful. bryson dechambeau, great shot out of the bunker, what's called the sandy out of the bunker and sank the putt, fantastic. that's actually a big thing. he's on the liv tour. it's also interesting, the people on the liv tour are able to play in the major tournaments. actually, this was an interesting thing for professional golf. great redemption for him. he was, shall we say, unpopular with the fans. he is a quirky guy. you can see the body building. 3d printing of his golf clubs. he is a curious guy. >> yeah. >> this will be more k

leibovich are going to start us off. talking about donald trump, he's standing up there saying, i'm going targeted because they want to target you. it's a grievance theme, worked for him in the past to a degree. these grievances, though, you're hearing less about what donald trump wants to do when he's president and hearing more about who he wants to take out when he's president. are voters there for it, or are they there for policy? this is coming down to the determination a candidate makes on how do you energize and get those folks who are either sitting on the fence or not sure whether they feel like getting out to vote much in november, out. donald trump has made a calculated decision that being the aggrieved candidate and telling voters you should care, they're coming after me, attacking me, they're prosecuting me, and soon they're going to be coming after your rights. that can be effective. you should be scared of new york and milwaukee. that can rally up a lot of folks in the suburbs or rural parts that say, yeah,