so i see a question from michael maybank and we'll go to the front after that. so go. thank you. thanks for doing this this evening. so one of the things i think that a lot of us run into, that we're in a presidential year is we have that. mr. biden. mr. trump and i'll be talking to somebody socially and all of a sudden we break into camps are you for or trump or biden and emotions come out either side and i will say. well what policies you want to talk about it's really hard to talk about policies. is that typical in america or are we are we in situation now where we just can't talk about policy because of personality? yeah. yeah. people don't care about policies. they care about people, personalities, drama. and so that's look, that's that's it. i mean and you know, trump has been media star. what, 50 years i mean guy's a phenomenon in that way and he's very polarizing and for obvious reasons. but i don't know. i i've managed to avoid those conversations. if i'm like on an airplane and people ask me what do i say? i run a private research firm, you know, i made a couple mistake