is there a second to larry mazzola's motion?second. >> all those in favor -- are we going to do roll call? >> i think that's a good idea. >> commissioner mazzola, what is the motion? >> the motion is to deny drosh not recommend that the -- to not recommend that the board of supervisors approve an easement for for the steam loop. >> to interrupt but maybe andriko or anybody ashley or stacy, what goes to the board? is it the easement itself for the approval or the transfer of ownership of the asset? i'm not sure, commissioner mazzola, i'm not sure that the motion would be though recommend to the board that they deny the easement. >> it says that on here. i was reading this. >> let me read the wording -- >> we have a city attorney here. sorry, madam president, i didn't realize -- >> it's business cli kind of a go forth sort of thing. it's up to the board of supervisors to approve access to the utility. >> the board normally does not approve us granting easements typically. so i just want to mac sure that what you guys are voting on