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judge mcafee: sure. i think that's a fair point that if you had been confronted with a particular text, that could have been the opportunity to admit it as a prior consistent statement for impeachment. and some of them were, but apparently some of them were not. >> i am taking it out. i'm taking out the ones that they said he was with and i'm just going to the one that he was. that's fine. it just makes it more confusing. judge mcafee: all right. we have a newly compiled 39. let's see what the state thinks about that one. all right. regardless if that is now what is being discussed, again, i do not see a need for mr. bradley to be here any longer, so i'm going to excuse him at this point. >> may we be? judge mcafee: of course. take care. yes, that's right. judge mcafee: so where are we with defense exhibit 39? >> so i put in so that it would make sense. so you could read it, you know, when you're reading a text and it's a conversation. judge mcafee: sure. >> they're upset that they're not in order now, i
judge mcafee: sure. i think that's a fair point that if you had been confronted with a particular text, that could have been the opportunity to admit it as a prior consistent statement for impeachment. and some of them were, but apparently some of them were not. >> i am taking it out. i'm taking out the ones that they said he was with and i'm just going to the one that he was. that's fine. it just makes it more confusing. judge mcafee: all right. we have a newly compiled 39. let's see...
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judge mcafee: ms. merchant, i know you are trying to impeach him with an inconsistent statement, but if you cannot back up and show what each statement, the acknowledgment -- ms. merchant: i'm not even there yet. i can anticipate the response next. i did not ask anything objectionable but these objections are approaching the witness. i asked if he had knowledge, that is it. i did not ask if someone said it to you. judge mcafee: you are asking if he had knowledge, then something specific. ms. merchant: once i get an answer, then i will follow up with where that knowledge came from. judge mcafee: let's try again. ms. merchant: do you have knowledge of the meeting at that office? >> objection, foundation. judge mcafee: overruled. ms. merchant: do you have knowledge of the meeting at the office? mr. bradley: i have no personal knowledge. ms. merchant: i did not ask that, i asked if you had any knowledge. >> objection. judge mcafee: overruled. how do you know, mr. bradley? mr. bradley: any knowledge that i
judge mcafee: ms. merchant, i know you are trying to impeach him with an inconsistent statement, but if you cannot back up and show what each statement, the acknowledgment -- ms. merchant: i'm not even there yet. i can anticipate the response next. i did not ask anything objectionable but these objections are approaching the witness. i asked if he had knowledge, that is it. i did not ask if someone said it to you. judge mcafee: you are asking if he had knowledge, then something specific. ms....
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what will the presiding judge scott mcafee to now? we've got the latest on what's next. >> a good saturday to you. all we begin today's show with donald trump taking a massive body blow, not only to his so- called real estate empire, but to his wallet as well. yesterday the judge in and york city fraud trial order the former president to pay $453 million in interest, an amount new york attorney general, sing day. that is until the judgment -- justice engoron ruling that donald trump is barred from running any businesses or applying for bank loans in the state of new york for three years. trump predictably bashing the ruling, calling it a fine for doing a perfect job. we this is what letitia james had to say after the release of the 92 page ruling. >> today we prove that no one is above the law. no matter how rich, powerful, or politically connected you are. everyone must play by the same rules. >> joining me now, glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst and host of the justice matters podcast. glenn, my friend,
what will the presiding judge scott mcafee to now? we've got the latest on what's next. >> a good saturday to you. all we begin today's show with donald trump taking a massive body blow, not only to his so- called real estate empire, but to his wallet as well. yesterday the judge in and york city fraud trial order the former president to pay $453 million in interest, an amount new york attorney general, sing day. that is until the judgment -- justice engoron ruling that donald trump is...
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i don't see any reason for judge mcafee to question his testimony. is going to argue that this witness was prepped, ahead of time, but that is of course different from being coached. of course, as the attorneys, they would want to know how he would respond to the questions. they would know that d.a. willis and mr. weight's said that he was reimbursed in cash and that she was advised, or she had always been taught to keep cash, and could he corroborate that? all those questions that would normally be asked in preparing for this hearing, though i do suspect the defense quit trying to turn that around to say they somehow colluded in that their testimony together beforehand. but i do believe it was credible and i believe judge mcafee will find that testimony credible. >> katie phang, a huge surprise when attorney bradley was on cross-examination today where they brought out the issue of sexual assault and that is the reason he left the law firm where he was a partner with nathan wade. >> yeah, you want to talk about, lawrence, the case taking yet another
i don't see any reason for judge mcafee to question his testimony. is going to argue that this witness was prepped, ahead of time, but that is of course different from being coached. of course, as the attorneys, they would want to know how he would respond to the questions. they would know that d.a. willis and mr. weight's said that he was reimbursed in cash and that she was advised, or she had always been taught to keep cash, and could he corroborate that? all those questions that would...
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judge mcafee: ms. merchant? ms.erchant: i just wanted to know -- judge mcafee: actually, what i think we are going to do is what i suggested before, give you a time block and you use and how you think it will best be affected -- effective. there is a lot covered in the evidence but i will plan to rule on it at the same time as well. i believe that you. mr. gillen? we do? mr. gillen: i thought we did. judge mcafee: if you have arguments about forensic misconduct or anything like that, this will be the time for that as well. email, no, i've talked about that, and things evolved. we did not actually send out a notice adding any other motions, but we have some trials starting next week, the next two weeks. we have some homicide trials already scheduled, so i will be following up with you all to schedule the rest of the pretrial motions that we have. >> on friday, we have 1:00 on the issue of disqualification. judge mcafee: that's right, all things disqualification. anything from the state or any other defense, counsel?
judge mcafee: ms. merchant? ms.erchant: i just wanted to know -- judge mcafee: actually, what i think we are going to do is what i suggested before, give you a time block and you use and how you think it will best be affected -- effective. there is a lot covered in the evidence but i will plan to rule on it at the same time as well. i believe that you. mr. gillen? we do? mr. gillen: i thought we did. judge mcafee: if you have arguments about forensic misconduct or anything like that, this will...
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so what will judge mcafee do with that?. we're weeks into this. what if they had said from the outset, you know what? all this is true. what if there was a relationship. what if it predated wade's appointment. what if wade did take fani willis on vacations and he paid for them, so what? because all this resistance now they're almost in exactly the same place they would have been except now some people have taken the stand and they've come off as less than credible. you argue the law under georgia, this would be a close call even if everything the defense was saying was true. >> not only is there the focus now on the prosecutor and the special prosecutor in this case and not on the defendants, but like you said, it just is getting kind of worse and the lack of clarity here is troubling, right? if this case is to go to trial at all. we've had days of hearings on the issue. and so yet another one come friday. why can't the judge make a decision at this point? >> one, they are entitled to have a closing argument on their motion
so what will judge mcafee do with that?. we're weeks into this. what if they had said from the outset, you know what? all this is true. what if there was a relationship. what if it predated wade's appointment. what if wade did take fani willis on vacations and he paid for them, so what? because all this resistance now they're almost in exactly the same place they would have been except now some people have taken the stand and they've come off as less than credible. you argue the law under...
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all timidly, mcafee, has to make a decision based on evidence only.ocese that he has as a judge, and he has to rely on evidence. it's severely lacking, if not not existent for the defense at this. time is >> will squeeze in a quick, final break here. we'll come back with more naon the situation with katie phang and melissa redmon. we'll be right back. redmon. we'll be right back. shingles. the rash can feel like pulsing, electric shocks and last for weeks. a pain so intense, you could miss out on family time. the virus that causes shingles is likely already inside of you. 50 years or older? ask your doctor about shingles. ♪i'm hearing different ways for me to screen for colon cancer.♪ ♪it's time to use my voice,♪ ♪i've got a choice, more than one answer.♪ ♪i sat down with my doc.♪ we had a talk. ♪knew just what to say.♪ ♪i asked for cologuard and did it my way.♪ cologuard is a one-of-a kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45 plus at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may o
all timidly, mcafee, has to make a decision based on evidence only.ocese that he has as a judge, and he has to rely on evidence. it's severely lacking, if not not existent for the defense at this. time is >> will squeeze in a quick, final break here. we'll come back with more naon the situation with katie phang and melissa redmon. we'll be right back. redmon. we'll be right back. shingles. the rash can feel like pulsing, electric shocks and last for weeks. a pain so intense, you could...
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meanwhile, the judge in this case judge scott mcafee also overseeing the conspiracy case has directed ms. willis to respond to the misconduct allegations by friday. these allegations are merely that, allegations. and as of right now they do not change the facts of the actual case against trump. but could it change its outcome? joining me now is anthony michael price, assistitant professor of law at georgia state university. anthony, it's great to see you. thank you for making the time. i know we checked in with you when the case was -- what should we call it? the situation was unfolding down in georgia, and there's since been more evidence produced of the relationship between mr. wade and ms. willis. i wonder what you think happens now in terms of next steps for ms. willis and where judge mcafee may come down on this. >> well, the first thing we'll have to see is whether or not d.a. fights these subpoenas to prevent her, to prevent special prosecutor wade and others from testifying in the evidentiary hearing scheduled for february 15th, in addition to seeing what the filing contains t
meanwhile, the judge in this case judge scott mcafee also overseeing the conspiracy case has directed ms. willis to respond to the misconduct allegations by friday. these allegations are merely that, allegations. and as of right now they do not change the facts of the actual case against trump. but could it change its outcome? joining me now is anthony michael price, assistitant professor of law at georgia state university. anthony, it's great to see you. thank you for making the time. i know...
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so judge mcafee is going to weigh the credibility.the weight of the testimony that has been provided thus far. he's going to weigh the credibility of these witnesses, and then he's going to apply that to georgia law, the requires that an actual conflict of interest exists in order to disqualify a prosecutor. then i have relationships, lawrence. you can be on the opposite side of a case and be married and georgia losses that in itself is not enough. you can actually see that in this instance there is no actual conflict of interest because there is no uncontroverted evidence that has been set forward by the defence that would support the existence of that conflict of interest. >> never mind proof. i was just looking for, where is the evidence of it today? i didn't see it. katie phang, think you for staying with us all day on this. i've been following you all day, guiding us through this. really appreciate it. thank you. and joining our discussion now, charles coleman, former federal prosecutor and former senior assistant district attorn
so judge mcafee is going to weigh the credibility.the weight of the testimony that has been provided thus far. he's going to weigh the credibility of these witnesses, and then he's going to apply that to georgia law, the requires that an actual conflict of interest exists in order to disqualify a prosecutor. then i have relationships, lawrence. you can be on the opposite side of a case and be married and georgia losses that in itself is not enough. you can actually see that in this instance...
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it could be another week, or even more, until judge scott mcafee determines if willis should be thrown off the case over past relationship with special prosecutor, nathan wade. the defense into arguing the dating lives present a conflict of interest because of financial gain. joining us now former federal prosecutor, mr. greenberg, an msnbc greenberg -- analyst anthony coley. also a former senior adviser to attorney general merrick garland. thank you all for being here. >> there were a lot of really powerful moments throughout this testimony. i want to make sure that we hear willis in her own words about who is actually on trial here. take a listen. >> you've been intrusive into peoples person alive. you're confused, you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i am not on trial, no matter how try or do you try to put me on trial. >> i want to be crystal clear in the eyes of this judge, judge mcafee, the conflict would be if fani willis benefited financially from wade's contract, which is why there was so much back and forth about the timel
it could be another week, or even more, until judge scott mcafee determines if willis should be thrown off the case over past relationship with special prosecutor, nathan wade. the defense into arguing the dating lives present a conflict of interest because of financial gain. joining us now former federal prosecutor, mr. greenberg, an msnbc greenberg -- analyst anthony coley. also a former senior adviser to attorney general merrick garland. thank you all for being here. >> there were a...
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the former one is also very unlikely to get judge mcafee's attention.ause it is very unlikely for these defendants to show the special prosecutor wade and his involvement in this case is really the driving force behind the prosecution. it is really hard to bring a selective prosecuting plane. ultimately, they are very likely to fail. >> but there are other efforts that the state, if not the courts can pursue, to get the a willis taken off of this case. is that right? there are various commissions that have been established, disbanded, there are various levels of evolution, but it appears that the republicans in the state are, if not eager are interested in further examining ethics breaches in that case, it could be problematic for d. a. willis. is that right? >> it could be. there are a lot of moving parts here. there is a disciplinary body that was created last year, for prosecutors that the general assembly could not really have implemented because that is being brought to the general assembly again this weekend. that could be a source of the headache
the former one is also very unlikely to get judge mcafee's attention.ause it is very unlikely for these defendants to show the special prosecutor wade and his involvement in this case is really the driving force behind the prosecution. it is really hard to bring a selective prosecuting plane. ultimately, they are very likely to fail. >> but there are other efforts that the state, if not the courts can pursue, to get the a willis taken off of this case. is that right? there are various...
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so i was sitting in the courtroom and i was trying to act as if i were judge mcafee.he assessment >> the assessor of the facts. and by that, i mean not taking into account the allegations themselves, not taking into account news accounts or anything like that, but just simply looking at the evidence produced in that evidentiary hearing and the defendants have the burden here to show that willis basically profited from this prosecution and they've really just couldn't show that so what does the judge judge mcafee have to weigh and consider now >> well, wedding house to do is essentially look at all of the different pieces of testimony, look at all the evidence that has been entered in in terms of statements and documents and the like, assess the credibility of the different witnesses. way, how much kevin or how much weight he wants to give? yes. to assess that. and then basically determine what he thinks happened. and then from there, he has to decide what standard of the kind of ethical standard that he wants to apply for judges. we typically call, we talk about a app
so i was sitting in the courtroom and i was trying to act as if i were judge mcafee.he assessment >> the assessor of the facts. and by that, i mean not taking into account the allegations themselves, not taking into account news accounts or anything like that, but just simply looking at the evidence produced in that evidentiary hearing and the defendants have the burden here to show that willis basically profited from this prosecution and they've really just couldn't show that so what...
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for a second straight day, judge scott mcafee heard evidence on allegations that d.a. fani willis financially benefited from a personal relationship with special prosecutor nathan wade, who she hired on the case. now, trump and several co-defendants are trying to have her removed. >> it is a lie it is a lie. >> reporter: after more than two hours of surprise, fiery testimony yesterday, today, the state declined to call willis for cross-examination. >> i have one daughter, fani willis. >> reporter: on the stand, willis' father, john floyd, pressed on what he knew about her relationship with wade at issue, when that relationship began, before or after she hired him. wade and willis said it was after >> did you ever meet mr. wade in the year 2019 >> absolutely not. >> how about in the year 2020? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: also a focus, the issue of cash, which became central yesterday when willis said, that's how she would reimburse wade for their vacations. >> it's a black thing, okay you know, i was trained, and most black folks, they hide cash, and i told my daugh
for a second straight day, judge scott mcafee heard evidence on allegations that d.a. fani willis financially benefited from a personal relationship with special prosecutor nathan wade, who she hired on the case. now, trump and several co-defendants are trying to have her removed. >> it is a lie it is a lie. >> reporter: after more than two hours of surprise, fiery testimony yesterday, today, the state declined to call willis for cross-examination. >> i have one daughter, fani...
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but at the close of the evidence, judge mcafee said, you know what, mr.adley, i don't think you really understand the scope of the attorney-client privilege, we're going to explore that more with you to make sure you're giving fulsome answers. so, what do i expect to happen today? well, one of two things. either a total nothing burger, something innocuous, why did you leave the law firm partnership with nathan wade, those types of questions. or we may hear some blockbuster huge testimony about the personal relationship between nathan wade and fani willis, more specifically when did that intimate relationship start and there is a lot of fervor over whether we should care. we should care if it was perjuryious, if they lied to the court. >> that's why bradley's testimony is important. we're also learning trump's defense lawyers recently submitted cell phone records they say show willis and wade had thousands of calls and interactions during 2021. and they say than analysis shows wade's phone connection to cell towers near where willis was living at the time.
but at the close of the evidence, judge mcafee said, you know what, mr.adley, i don't think you really understand the scope of the attorney-client privilege, we're going to explore that more with you to make sure you're giving fulsome answers. so, what do i expect to happen today? well, one of two things. either a total nothing burger, something innocuous, why did you leave the law firm partnership with nathan wade, those types of questions. or we may hear some blockbuster huge testimony about...
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so judge mcafee has a great poker face. i've seen him at every major substantive hearing we've had so far, even the smaller ones. he's very skilled at not really letting go in terms of his emotions on his face, expressing them in any way. i will note the following, and i'm sure andrew and others picked up on this. there was exasperation after a while because -- and understandably so -- when you aallow, and it's supposed happen, a litany of defense attorneys up to ask questions there's going to be repetition. he gave them a lot of leeway. after a point in time and you look at the clock and it becomes so repetitive, the judge says, enough, move on. there was also i think a very key moment when you heard judge mcafee basically say enough. enough about this particular line of questioning to mr. nathan wade about his answers to intering on torres, like a discovery vehicle used in a divorce case. he said i don't need to know more about this. i understand what you're trying to say. you're trying to say maybe it wasn't truth follow
so judge mcafee has a great poker face. i've seen him at every major substantive hearing we've had so far, even the smaller ones. he's very skilled at not really letting go in terms of his emotions on his face, expressing them in any way. i will note the following, and i'm sure andrew and others picked up on this. there was exasperation after a while because -- and understandably so -- when you aallow, and it's supposed happen, a litany of defense attorneys up to ask questions there's going to...
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so judge mcafee said you know, it seems mr.he scope of the attorney client privilege. so he said to bradley, i'm going to take you behind closed doors and we're going to explore what your understanding is of the attorney client privilege to make sure you have answered the questions about which you are allowed to. the attorney client privilege, it is held by the client. but wade. he has testified he has not waived that privilege so any of the communications he's had cannot be divulged for any reason except for a few exceptions. so mcafee has met today with bradley to make sure he doesn't have to reopen the evidence and basically have bradley answer a whole slew of additional questions. >> so in light of that, talk to us about what's next. what do summary arguments look like for both sides? >> mcafee also indicated that this friday or perhaps next week, closing arguments as we'll call it, oral arguments on both sides will take place. interestingly though, mcafee said it would only be ten to 15 minutes on each side. reading tea le
so judge mcafee said you know, it seems mr.he scope of the attorney client privilege. so he said to bradley, i'm going to take you behind closed doors and we're going to explore what your understanding is of the attorney client privilege to make sure you have answered the questions about which you are allowed to. the attorney client privilege, it is held by the client. but wade. he has testified he has not waived that privilege so any of the communications he's had cannot be divulged for any...
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when you look at all of that in totality, judge mcafee who is presiding in fulton county needed to decide if they met this burden and technically the burden is actual conflict and that's an extremely high bar to clear. host: we want to invite viewers to join the conversation. a good time to brennan -- to bring hugo lowell in. call in with your questions or comments. our phone lines are republicans (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents (202) 748-8002. we will get to those calls after you explain where we are in the classified documents on the federal case. guest: we are in something of a limbo in the document case. basically, the document case is to trial in what's known as the information procedures act. it's a multistep process that was enacted to make sure that espionage charged defendants don't just release classified material at trial and eventually blackmail the government to say we will expose all these national security secrets. the term is called grave mail and to protect against that, there are specific steps the government and defendants have to go through in or
when you look at all of that in totality, judge mcafee who is presiding in fulton county needed to decide if they met this burden and technically the burden is actual conflict and that's an extremely high bar to clear. host: we want to invite viewers to join the conversation. a good time to brennan -- to bring hugo lowell in. call in with your questions or comments. our phone lines are republicans (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents (202) 748-8002. we will get to those calls...
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we see judge scott mcafee there on the bench. i want to bring in laura coats to talk a little bit about what we're seeing and what we're expecting here today. >> well, this is a really striking moment. remember, we've already seen this person on the stand before, but he had to leave the stand because he's the attorney for nathan wade, the lead prosecutor. in the election subversion case, but he's the divorce attorney for him. the question before the court really is, has every form of communication, every conversation, every personal observation, is that all going to be under the attorney-client privilege, the anti-war broadly is generally no, just because you're an attorney and you speak to someone, it doesn't i mean, it's always privilege. it has to be communication in furtherance of getting legal advice. so remember before the judge was skeptical about any argument that suggested that anything they'd ever talked about in the history of their interaction was going to be tethered to the actual attorney-client privilege. and remem
we see judge scott mcafee there on the bench. i want to bring in laura coats to talk a little bit about what we're seeing and what we're expecting here today. >> well, this is a really striking moment. remember, we've already seen this person on the stand before, but he had to leave the stand because he's the attorney for nathan wade, the lead prosecutor. in the election subversion case, but he's the divorce attorney for him. the question before the court really is, has every form of...
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we need to see whether or not judge mcafee allows this in in terms of evidence, whether he reopens a to be able to consider this and very quickly, on monday, judge mcafee is meeting with the former divorce lawyer of nathan wade. terrence bradley. he's going to explore with terrence bradley, bradley's understanding of what the attorney/client privilege covers. during the hearing he invoked the attorney/client privilege because nathan wade never waived it. mcafee wants to make sure bradley properly invoked that privilege during the course of that hearing. >> katie phang with a lot of information within a short period of time. call me any time. appreciate it. >>> the push to free the hostages still in gaza. officials meeting in paris to try to get a deal over the finish line. after the break, i'll talk to the father of one of the hostages about how optimistic he may be. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. watching reports" only on msnbc to nur. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. ask
we need to see whether or not judge mcafee allows this in in terms of evidence, whether he reopens a to be able to consider this and very quickly, on monday, judge mcafee is meeting with the former divorce lawyer of nathan wade. terrence bradley. he's going to explore with terrence bradley, bradley's understanding of what the attorney/client privilege covers. during the hearing he invoked the attorney/client privilege because nathan wade never waived it. mcafee wants to make sure bradley...
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and mcafee seemed to signal as much during the second day of bradley's testimony. and what can only be described as sort of an earthquake moment. the judge turning to bradley and saying it appears as though you've been misunderstanding or mischaracterizing what privilege is. so now, defense attorneys will have another chance to question what was expected to be a star witness, terrence bradley, the onetime divorce attorney, former law partner of nathan wade, and ashleigh merchant, who is the defense attorney for mike roman, the former trump campaign official. she alleges that bradley can prove that nathan wade, and fani willis were lying on the stand as to when their relationship began. but if you remember when bradley first testified he wasn't entirely a cooperative a witness for ashleigh merchant. she will have another chance to question him today and we'll be looking at to whether or not judge scott mcafee will put any limitations on the questioning and what he will eventually allow to be emitted as evidenced. that hearing is expected to start in just about 30 mi
and mcafee seemed to signal as much during the second day of bradley's testimony. and what can only be described as sort of an earthquake moment. the judge turning to bradley and saying it appears as though you've been misunderstanding or mischaracterizing what privilege is. so now, defense attorneys will have another chance to question what was expected to be a star witness, terrence bradley, the onetime divorce attorney, former law partner of nathan wade, and ashleigh merchant, who is the...
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listen to mcafee in his own words at a hearing earlier today >> the state has admitted a relationship existed. and so what remains to be proven as the existence and extent of any financial benefit? again, if they're if they're even was one, i think it's possible that the facts alleged by the defendant could result in disqualification. i think an evidentiary hearing must occur another major headline is fani willis could have to testify in her own defense. it depends on what other witnesses called safe first, ashleigh merchant, she is the attorney that first made these allegations. public. she says she intends to call a star witness named terence bradley, who will prove not only did willis financially benefited from this alleged relationship, if from this relationship rather, but also that this relationship began before willis hired wade to be the special prosecutor in this one thing that we won't hear and thursday's hearing anything to do with nathan wade? qualifications. it's clear that mcafee only wants to hear evidence related to this, whether not she financially profited from this
listen to mcafee in his own words at a hearing earlier today >> the state has admitted a relationship existed. and so what remains to be proven as the existence and extent of any financial benefit? again, if they're if they're even was one, i think it's possible that the facts alleged by the defendant could result in disqualification. i think an evidentiary hearing must occur another major headline is fani willis could have to testify in her own defense. it depends on what other witnesses...
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it could be days judge scott mcafee, who's presiding over this case, is not expected to make a ruling from the bench erin. >> all right. thank you very much, nick and incredible de here. joe cohen is with me, a former fulton county prosecutor. he knows both fani willis and nathan wade also with us, karen friedman, agnifilo, ryan goodman, and laura coates, who is outside the fulton county courthouse. so daryl, let me start with you because you know, both of them and, you know, fani willis. well, did you expect her to get on that witness stand and do what she did to be so defiant to push back time and time again. she didn't let anything go they're in this case, never ceases to amaze me. it's a case of first impression that us lawyers like to say, but the reality is it's never happened before. and i watched fani walk into that courtroom and he was walking in hot and she pushed back. i'm not at all surprised. i felt like we were watching a heavyweight fight or ashleigh merchant was swinging hard and fani was swinging back just as hard but the bottom line is, does it matter? does this take
it could be days judge scott mcafee, who's presiding over this case, is not expected to make a ruling from the bench erin. >> all right. thank you very much, nick and incredible de here. joe cohen is with me, a former fulton county prosecutor. he knows both fani willis and nathan wade also with us, karen friedman, agnifilo, ryan goodman, and laura coates, who is outside the fulton county courthouse. so daryl, let me start with you because you know, both of them and, you know, fani willis....
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and how do you think that played with judge mcafee? >> well, clearly she was intimating >> something about their sexual interactions or lack thereof as a result of some physiological condition. but i think what's clear here they were trying to establish how to define a relationship and sort of the clinton ask, what is, is right, what is relationship wasn't romantic? and taking major, was it personal in nature? was it sexual in nature? there are many times during the course of the conversation where they seem to be skirting around the issue of what it meant to stay the night what it meant to be involved romantically, and she was quite direct eye different times during her testimony. but just think at the weight of this moment. erin, can you imagine? jack smith testifying on the stand while he has an active trial, an indictment against a former president, let alone over a dozen other defendant for an election subversion case, having to testify on the stand about his sexual relationships, and then seek a jury who is going to be able to be
and how do you think that played with judge mcafee? >> well, clearly she was intimating >> something about their sexual interactions or lack thereof as a result of some physiological condition. but i think what's clear here they were trying to establish how to define a relationship and sort of the clinton ask, what is, is right, what is relationship wasn't romantic? and taking major, was it personal in nature? was it sexual in nature? there are many times during the course of the...
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scott mcafee. i will remind you is up for re-election in georgia in four months' time. newt gingrich joins us now. you used to live in marietta, georgia. what did you think of fani willis and her presentation yesterday and what the judge allowed to happen and not happen? >> you know, there is an old saying that a lawyer who represents themselves has a fool for a client. she should never have taken the seat like that. if she was going to be up there she should have been relatively meek and compliant. this is not a jury trial. this is all about that judge. i don't think she earned any points for being as aggressive and angry. we were listening at one point yesterday afternoon on the way home. the level of her anger just came through with extraordinary clarity. so we'll see what happens today. you know, the this is also the reminder that the people who have taken on trump, whether the new york prosecutors, or washington, or atlanta, they are all basically not very competent people because they really responsible, competent district attorney wouldn't take these cases. you e
scott mcafee. i will remind you is up for re-election in georgia in four months' time. newt gingrich joins us now. you used to live in marietta, georgia. what did you think of fani willis and her presentation yesterday and what the judge allowed to happen and not happen? >> you know, there is an old saying that a lawyer who represents themselves has a fool for a client. she should never have taken the seat like that. if she was going to be up there she should have been relatively meek and...
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again, it might not resonate with someone like scott mcafee although other aspects of her story wouldo those other aspects, i do want to know what you think about generally the posture she adopted today, which was combative, strong, assertive. you know, if the contention here this woman is looking for, again, a free ride from a man she hired to sort of get over on the system, i would think that was a fairly effective rhetorical tool if nothing else. >> the defiance, the sort of independence, like i don't need someone to pay my way, i pay my way, in fact a lot of the difficulties in our romantic relationship came from the fact i was independent, and he was looking for a different kind of woman. they may have played out, but let's just also put out there this is a prosecutor in a major case against a major public figure and we are talking about her dating strategy and whether a former, current, whatever romantic partner believed she was too independent to be in a relationship. like that's not where you want to be in this case. >> right. especially a case of this magnitude. and on that e
again, it might not resonate with someone like scott mcafee although other aspects of her story wouldo those other aspects, i do want to know what you think about generally the posture she adopted today, which was combative, strong, assertive. you know, if the contention here this woman is looking for, again, a free ride from a man she hired to sort of get over on the system, i would think that was a fairly effective rhetorical tool if nothing else. >> the defiance, the sort of...
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. >> la fiscal willis le ha pedido al juez scott mcafee que que desecha la mocion de michael roman queue cancele la audiencia programada para el proximo 15 de febrero. >> esta noche familiares de los hermanitos gemelos hallados muertos en un auto en florida este jueves identificaron a los ninos como melindy y melinder de tres anos. >> tambien dijeron que la mujer que cayo desde un puente cercano es su madre, de 42 anos, quienes aseguran que suicidarse, pero permanece en estado critico. >> el papa de los gemelitos dijo que perdio contacto con los ninos un dia antes de esta tragedia. >> cambiamos de tema, le digo, cuidado con el fraude. >> la temporada para declarar los impuestos ya esta en marcha y el servicio de rentas internas o irs por sus siglas en ingles, lanzo una alerta para los contribuyentes de posibles estafas a manos de preparadores de impuestos. >> erika flores tiene recomendaciones para no caer victima. >> temprano posible y con un preparador confiable. >> ella tiene varios anos acudiendo con el mismo contador. >> realmente me la recomendaron y me gusta mucho el trato, me g
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judge mcafee will have to determine if willis and wade had a financial interest in the case. it's unclear where this will end. earlier this week, he said it was possible that the facts alleged could merit disqualification. here's why all this matters. if fani willis is disqualified, her entire fulton county d.a.'s office would be removed and a state prosecutor's counsel would have to appoint a special prosecutor, which means, drum roll, yet another delay. willis has already been disqualified by a separate judge when it comes to another defendant, georgia lieutenant governor burt jones who was a fake trump elector, because she hosted a fund-raiser for the democrat who lost to jones in the 2022 election. that jones probe still does not have a new prosecutor, 18 months later. not at issue, the accusations that trump and others tried to overturn the election. willis will be back on the stand tomorrow. and joining me now is katie phang, trial attorney and host of the katie phang show on msnbc. she is at the courthouse in atlanta, the site of today's explosive testimony. former fed
judge mcafee will have to determine if willis and wade had a financial interest in the case. it's unclear where this will end. earlier this week, he said it was possible that the facts alleged could merit disqualification. here's why all this matters. if fani willis is disqualified, her entire fulton county d.a.'s office would be removed and a state prosecutor's counsel would have to appoint a special prosecutor, which means, drum roll, yet another delay. willis has already been disqualified by...
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i believe judge mcafee is going to return to that. what evidence have you presented in this hearing to say that this d.a. and this special prosecutor have benefitted to the point that creates a personal interest in this case such that they should be disqualified? i still haven't seen it. >> of course, we will hear more later this afternoon. we heard the state has at least one more witness to call. they are waiting for this other defense witness to come back, terrence bradley. the court in a break until 1:00. please stay close. there's more ahead as we continue our special coverage of this hearing that could upend georgia's election case. >>> president biden is to speak in minutes about the death of alexei navalni. look at that! swiffer wetjet. mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle
i believe judge mcafee is going to return to that. what evidence have you presented in this hearing to say that this d.a. and this special prosecutor have benefitted to the point that creates a personal interest in this case such that they should be disqualified? i still haven't seen it. >> of course, we will hear more later this afternoon. we heard the state has at least one more witness to call. they are waiting for this other defense witness to come back, terrence bradley. the court in...
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judge mcafee will decide in the end whether or not fani willis has to be removed from this case.ight, that is william brangham joining us from new york tonight. william, thank you so much. william: you're welcome, amna. geoff: the special counsel in the hunter-biden investigation has charged a one-time informant with lying about president biden and his son. alexander smirnov is accused of falsely claiming that the ukrainian energy firm burisma paid the bidens $5 million apiece back in 2015 and 2016. laura barron-lopez is here to explain the charges and how they undercut a key part of the house republican impeachment inquiry into president biden. so, laura, what is the doj alleging? laura: so the justice department special counsel, david weiss, has charged alexander smirnov with two counts, essentially alleging that he has made false statements to a government agent. that's count one. count two, a falsification of records in a federal investigation. and in this indictment, the doj is saying that the defendant's story to the fbi -- this is in the document itself -- that the defenda
judge mcafee will decide in the end whether or not fani willis has to be removed from this case.ight, that is william brangham joining us from new york tonight. william, thank you so much. william: you're welcome, amna. geoff: the special counsel in the hunter-biden investigation has charged a one-time informant with lying about president biden and his son. alexander smirnov is accused of falsely claiming that the ukrainian energy firm burisma paid the bidens $5 million apiece back in 2015 and...
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it's up to judge mcafee to be the referee.terested to see what he does. >> neil: very interesting. thanks, governor, with all of this breaking news. i appreciate it, sir. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: all right. meantime, want to take you back to washington, the hunter biden long back and forth, six hours plus talking to republicans behind closed doors. that is over. what we learned from that too soon to tell. aishah hasnie has the very latest. aishah? >> hi, neil. good afternoon. big headline today is that this is all headed for a public hearing now on capitol hill. that is what chairman james comer of the oversight committee vowed moments ago here on your show. he said this was now going to be going to the hill for a big hearing. he's going to bring hunter biden in to testify in front of democrats and republicans. hunter biden, as you just said, as well on your show, just walked out of here. he had his attorney make a few comments saying this thing is totally over. there's nothing to see here. the investigation is done. as he wa
it's up to judge mcafee to be the referee.terested to see what he does. >> neil: very interesting. thanks, governor, with all of this breaking news. i appreciate it, sir. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: all right. meantime, want to take you back to washington, the hunter biden long back and forth, six hours plus talking to republicans behind closed doors. that is over. what we learned from that too soon to tell. aishah hasnie has the very latest. aishah? >> hi, neil. good...
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again, this depends on how this appears to scott mcafee.t doesn't strike me as odd that the professional woman is in a relationship with someone who also is in the profession and they reimburse each other for expenses, for things they do jointly. this isn't foreign to me, i have done this in the past. i imagine it would not be entirely foreign to the judge that this is something that happens. what might be more unusual to individuals is the fact that she professors to have paid for all of this in cash, and that might strike some individuals as odd. how much cash do you have on hand? again, didn't strike me is entirely odd. there's a long history within the black community of distrust to financial institutions, -- has written a terrific book how the other half banks that talks about how certain minority communities just don't have the same relationship with the traditional's financial institutions and are more likely to have large quantities of cash on hand for expenditures like this. but again, it might not resonate with someone like scott
again, this depends on how this appears to scott mcafee.t doesn't strike me as odd that the professional woman is in a relationship with someone who also is in the profession and they reimburse each other for expenses, for things they do jointly. this isn't foreign to me, i have done this in the past. i imagine it would not be entirely foreign to the judge that this is something that happens. what might be more unusual to individuals is the fact that she professors to have paid for all of this...
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we knew that the presiding judge, scott mcafee, was very, very interested in whether or not she personally benefited from this personal relationship now though it seems that credibility is an issue here today, laura no prosecutor wants their credibility in question, getting ready to plan a case of this magnitude, got to go real quick break here. we'll come right back. fani willis will be on the stand it's hard to explain what this feels like >> you're moving piles of earth just by moving left >> turn up to form thousand pounds with the machine that weighs less than half that cutting grass. >> the way >> in perfecting every inch of your land he could keep trying to push they it into words. but nothing compares to experiencing it for yourself you just have to get in the seat, learn more at john deere.com slash getting the seat with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, my skin was no longer mine. >> my active psoriatic arthritis join symptoms held me back don't let symptoms to fine. you emerge as you withdrawn via most peow
we knew that the presiding judge, scott mcafee, was very, very interested in whether or not she personally benefited from this personal relationship now though it seems that credibility is an issue here today, laura no prosecutor wants their credibility in question, getting ready to plan a case of this magnitude, got to go real quick break here. we'll come right back. fani willis will be on the stand it's hard to explain what this feels like >> you're moving piles of earth just by moving...