mcavennie. mcavennie was the chief marketing officer and chief revenue officer at open road integrated media and held senior roles at s.a., harpercollins and zondervan. and then we have peter warwick. he's the president and ceo scholastic. prior to his appointment, peter was an independent director on scholastic's board for seven years. he has held several senior level positions at thomson reuters. reuters, including as ceo of significant business units, and has he and he began his career at pearson, first in an editorial capacity and eventually becoming ceo of its professional education and information business unit and our moderator, lucia rahilly is global editorial director at mckinsey and company. lucia is global is also deputy publisher of mckinsey global publishing, a team of more than 100 people worldwide. lucia co-hosts the mckinsey podcast and co-moderator mckinsey life. please welcome our guests today. can you hear me? hello. hi, folks. i'm lucia rackley, i i'm mckinsey's editorial di