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allen weisselberg saw jeffrey mcconney. mcconney reported to weisselberg. wiesel person was there when donald trump specifically said if you pay off stormy daniels, somebody whose testimony could have been key here. they'll rely on jeffrey mcconney who is the one that made the determination on the checks it should be noted -- i should say on the ledger as retainer for legal expenses. he potentially over the course of these next hours could begin to build for the prosecution a more tactical understanding and description of exactly how the reimbursement scheme and how the falsification of business records was ultimately executed by him and others through donald trump's orders. >> carol, it sounds like the prosecution right now is sort of laying the groundwork for mcconney's role in the organization and his relationship with trump. there was some color written that trump seemed to laugh in his seat when mcconney recounted a story about trump pretending to fire him. first thinking about "the apprentice." trump is obviously engaged with this testimony. what do y
allen weisselberg saw jeffrey mcconney. mcconney reported to weisselberg. wiesel person was there when donald trump specifically said if you pay off stormy daniels, somebody whose testimony could have been key here. they'll rely on jeffrey mcconney who is the one that made the determination on the checks it should be noted -- i should say on the ledger as retainer for legal expenses. he potentially over the course of these next hours could begin to build for the prosecution a more tactical...
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mcconney is important. he was working at the comptroller at the trump organization overseeing the accounting and the ledger and was the one who he testified today at the direction of the cfo, allen weisselberg, ultimately sent over the approval for the invoices for cohen to be reimbursed. this is at the charges being charged against donald trump. because what was alleged here, and mcconney testified today, was that cohen was not only just being reimbursed for the daniels payment, but there was an apparent agreement to juice the amount, double the amount he was to be reimbursed for the purposes of him being able to consider the compensation as income in order to cover the taxes that would be associated with that reimbursement here and what the jury is currently looking at here not only invoices, but also the ledger with handwritten notes from mcconney himself, but also weisselberg, which just shows the extent to which there was such consideration over michael cohen's, the money that was going to michael cohe
mcconney is important. he was working at the comptroller at the trump organization overseeing the accounting and the ledger and was the one who he testified today at the direction of the cfo, allen weisselberg, ultimately sent over the approval for the invoices for cohen to be reimbursed. this is at the charges being charged against donald trump. because what was alleged here, and mcconney testified today, was that cohen was not only just being reimbursed for the daniels payment, but there was...
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mcconney says, no. was it typical for the legal department to review requests for invoices like these? he said yes. when we talk about the importance of the falsification of business records and why legal expenses denoting them in the ledger as such, you're also dealing with the ability to make those tax deductible filings and checks to michael cohen. if you were simply paying off a hush money payment to stormy daniels, you're not able to have a tax write-off here. this is the reason and the understanding and the legal implications for signing checks for legal expenses versus compensating for hush money and why the falsification of business records is pertinent to the trump organization and trump personally. >> everyone stay with us. we'll have more on donald trump violating the gag order and the judge warning he could have to put him in jail. what that means, next. >>> we're six months away from the election and trump is comparing to the nazis. we're back in 90 seconds. you're watching jose diaz-balart
mcconney says, no. was it typical for the legal department to review requests for invoices like these? he said yes. when we talk about the importance of the falsification of business records and why legal expenses denoting them in the ledger as such, you're also dealing with the ability to make those tax deductible filings and checks to michael cohen. if you were simply paying off a hush money payment to stormy daniels, you're not able to have a tax write-off here. this is the reason and the...
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but on cross-examination mcconney said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business records. another trump organization employee, debra tarasoff, testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks including to cohen, which were shown to the jury saying "if he didn't want to sign it he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie and it was black and that's what he uses." >> vaughn, the prosecution also giving an indication of the timing of this case. >> reporter: yeah, lester. prosecutors said they intend to call witnesses for about the next two weeks. at that point mr. trump's team will be
but on cross-examination mcconney said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business records. another trump organization employee, debra tarasoff, testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks including to cohen, which were shown to the jury saying "if he didn't want to sign it he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie and it was black and that's what he uses." >> vaughn, the prosecution also giving an indication of the timing of this case. >>...
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>> mcconney drastically. bove says, and there was a period where things were in flux because you're trying and to figure out how to do that, right? mcconney says, yes, sir. and for the first time in decades, president trump's main office was in washington, dc, hundreds of miles away, or mcconney says, yes, sir. so he was not new york as must as you had been previously, the sign personal cheques mcconney. i don't remember seeing him in new york at all. and anderson was wondering thing i want to point out that was all over the testimony today. it's a person it's alan yslow, birth play a huge role in this testimony today. this is just one exchange and we have a corresponding document to show you matthew angelo, the prosecutor who was asking the questions any for part of it says mr. mcconney, now showing you a document that's been marked people's 35. do you recognize this document, mcconney says, yes, glandular says, what is it? mechanic? is this is the bank statement that allen gave me to put in the files colang
>> mcconney drastically. bove says, and there was a period where things were in flux because you're trying and to figure out how to do that, right? mcconney says, yes, sir. and for the first time in decades, president trump's main office was in washington, dc, hundreds of miles away, or mcconney says, yes, sir. so he was not new york as must as you had been previously, the sign personal cheques mcconney. i don't remember seeing him in new york at all. and anderson was wondering thing i...
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mcconney says, very few. and during the instances when you did speak to him, you didn't talk about accounting software, did you mccartney says no, you never gave him a tour of the mds system, wright mcconney says, no bove you did you have any reason to believe that president trump understood the details of mds? a mcconney says, correct, mds is the pull-down menu system. i believe but let me make one point though. >> the prosecution doesn't necessarily have to show donald trump opened up that pull-down menu and clicked on legal expenses. >> it's enough if donald trump knew and i think michael cole will say this look the plan was, we put this whole elaborate reimbursement plan together because he knew and we knew it was stormy. daniel's payment and we were trying to hide it so it wouldn't come out for the election. that's enough that they don't have to show that he was clicking around the mds system. >> i thought i was just going or you're to me the idea that michael cohen is being in reimbursed in the form of
mcconney says, very few. and during the instances when you did speak to him, you didn't talk about accounting software, did you mccartney says no, you never gave him a tour of the mds system, wright mcconney says, no bove you did you have any reason to believe that president trump understood the details of mds? a mcconney says, correct, mds is the pull-down menu system. i believe but let me make one point though. >> the prosecution doesn't necessarily have to show donald trump opened up...
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mcconney says, okay male beauvais says, right and then mcconney is is sure. yes. >> and then bobi says and payments to lawyers by the trump organization or legal expenses, right? >> mcconney said, yes, sir. bove says, and you book those payments on the general ledger as legal expenses, correct. but connie says yes. now, here's the part that gets into the nitty-gritty of the mds system during you're 30 something plus years of the trump organization, you rarely had conversations with president trump right? mcconney says very few. and during the instances when you did speak to him, you didn't talk about accounting software, did you? mccartney says no, you never gave him a tour of the mds system, wright mcconney says, no bove as you didn't have any reason to believe that president trump understood the details of mds. a mcconney says, correct. mds is the pull-down menu system. all right. i believe but let me make one point though. >> the prosecution doesn't necessarily have to show donald trump opened up that pull-down menu and clicked on legal expenses. >> it's e
mcconney says, okay male beauvais says, right and then mcconney is is sure. yes. >> and then bobi says and payments to lawyers by the trump organization or legal expenses, right? >> mcconney said, yes, sir. bove says, and you book those payments on the general ledger as legal expenses, correct. but connie says yes. now, here's the part that gets into the nitty-gritty of the mds system during you're 30 something plus years of the trump organization, you rarely had conversations with...
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jeffrey mcconney, "no." we are back with adam klasfeld, andrew weissman, and neal katyal. andrew, what was established in the testimony today? >> i will do a mini summation on what you are talking with adam about in terms of well, this witness couldn't say that he had a conversation with donald trump comes exhibits at 35 and 36, the 2 handwritten notations, 1 of which is on the house money payment bank record, that is not some loose piece of paper, it is on that. of course, this witness says i don't deal with donald trump directly. ask yourself, allen weisselberg, why would he possibly do this, why would he dare do this, which is to not only reimburse michael cohen $130,000.00 but reimburse him another $130,000.00 without telling his boss? he would be fired for that. why would you do that on your own? there has been ample testimony about donald trump is a micromanager. so, what are you going to do, slip it by him? as you pointed out, he is signing the checks and seeing the invoices. you have to hope he's not going to ask any questions while he's paying double the amount of
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mcconney? >> i did not. >> aiml bobi asked him you did not talk to him about those events in 2017, did you mccartney said i did not bove said you did not talk to them about those events in 2018 either. mcconney? i did not but we then asked him not ever write no then the question president trump did not ask you to do any of the things that you've just described in response to the prosecutors questions, correct? >> and jeff mccartney, the accountant, said he did not. >> but he also was the person that was able to show for the jury how there were bank statements of expenses being paid to keith davidson and that donald trump had signature authority on making payments and signing checks up until the time he mr. controller or the trump organization, that's right. i'm a major accounting position and let's talk a little bit about what we just heard. eleia, how significant. is it the mccartney didn't have direct conversations with trump. >> i think it's something that we could have anticipated that the
mcconney? >> i did not. >> aiml bobi asked him you did not talk to him about those events in 2017, did you mccartney said i did not bove said you did not talk to them about those events in 2018 either. mcconney? i did not but we then asked him not ever write no then the question president trump did not ask you to do any of the things that you've just described in response to the prosecutors questions, correct? >> and jeff mccartney, the accountant, said he did not. >>...
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mcconney responds saying, yes, you were told to do something and you did it. yes. mcconney repeated. trump has denied all charges. >> this is a ridiculous situation. not fair, not fair. but we will fight. >> reporting from lower manhattan. i'm morgan mckay. fox news. >> firefighters in state leaders say it's never too early to start thinking about wildfire season the steps people can take now to protect their homes. also, just a quick reminder here that you can get ktvu on demand on your smart tv through the fox local app. you can watch live newscasts and see all kinds of in-depth content from our newsroom on a variety of topics. it is a dorms for days. harris county officials say 233 people and 186 pets were rescued during the flooding, with many stranded on rooftops or trapped by submerged roadways. a four year old boy died in north texas after the car he was riding in was swept away by flood waters. no other deaths or major injuries were reported by officials. and tonight the governor has turned his focus to getting help from the federal government in order for
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and mcconney agrees with that. that was a huge slip up because that's their whole defense is that it wasn't a reimbursement. it was a legitimate payment for legal fees for services rendered. >> joyce, if you're the prosecutor taking notes, that you're going to use in your closing argument, is that one of the points at which you point the finger? >> you know, it absolutely is. but as y'all pointed out, it's a slip of the tongue, and prosecutors won't focus too heavily on something like that. this case isn't about one witness or one piece of evidence. it's about all of the circumstantial evidence that this was not a payment for legal fees, that it was compensation for the payment that was made to stormy daniels and that trump was in on the scheme. so we'll see the prosecution layer evidence upon evidence when they close to tell the jury it's not a mistake. it's not an innocent explanation. it's exactly what it looks like. it's criminal conduct. >> vaughn, mcconney is known to a lot of folks, he was at both of the pre
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mcconney testifies about. so the first document i would even say that they're close to being smoking guns that that's significant. the first document is alan weisberg, the cfo at the time in his own handwriting contemporaneously recording the internal payments. so remember that the entire argument, by the prosecutors that this was a cover-up. they recorded it publicly and in their business records as legal fees. but this is the handwritten notes that shows its nothing about legal fees. in fact, the handwritten notes say this is too gross him up. you do not gross up legal fees? the exact amount is the uh, hundred and 30,000 times two to cover for taxes plus $50,000 for online polling company. and it's not that ellen, why so berg wrote this on a scratch piece of paper, the paper that this is all on is a bank record of michael cohen's from the essential consultants care of michael cohen on october 27th, shows the wire transfer to who? stormy daniels lawyer. so he's actually doing the handwritten notes on the hush
mcconney testifies about. so the first document i would even say that they're close to being smoking guns that that's significant. the first document is alan weisberg, the cfo at the time in his own handwriting contemporaneously recording the internal payments. so remember that the entire argument, by the prosecutors that this was a cover-up. they recorded it publicly and in their business records as legal fees. but this is the handwritten notes that shows its nothing about legal fees. in fact,...
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mcconney�*s handwritten note details the map that led to michael cohen being reimbursed with $35,000 monthly over the course of the year. he also showed a series of emails, invoices and leisure entries that are key pieces of evidence in the prosecution's case because ultimately it's falsifying business records, not the hush money payment on its own that's at issue here. trump's lawyers claim the payments to cohen were for legitimate legal work but mcconney testified he never saw a legal retainer agreement for cohen. on cross—examination by the defence mcconney said weisselberg never told him what cohen was seeking reimbursement for so is there yet solid proof that donald trump was the architect? jurors will hear from witnesses including michael cohen himself. argentina's presidentjavier milei told the bbc that ordinary argentines are not paying for his radical austerity measures. mr milei, who campaigned with a chainsaw to symbolise his desire to slash public spending, insisted that it was false to suggest the public were bearing the brunt of steep spending cuts and the devaluation
mcconney�*s handwritten note details the map that led to michael cohen being reimbursed with $35,000 monthly over the course of the year. he also showed a series of emails, invoices and leisure entries that are key pieces of evidence in the prosecution's case because ultimately it's falsifying business records, not the hush money payment on its own that's at issue here. trump's lawyers claim the payments to cohen were for legitimate legal work but mcconney testified he never saw a legal...
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mcconney, testifying that only trump could sign those checks. defense attorneys trying to distance trump from the pair's plan, asking mcconney president trump did not ask you to do any of the things that you just described, correct? mcconney replying he did not trump improperly, calling it a legal expense when he repaid cohen, according to prosecutors. but defense attorneys asking mcconney about that classification, who said it may have been categorized that way because of the trump organization's, quote, antiquated internal payment system. prosecutors also calling longtime trump organization employee deborah tarasoff a direct report to mcconney, who worked as an accountant's payable supervisor when cohen submitted invoices to be reimbursed in 2017. trump has pleaded not guilty to charges of falsifying business records and has denied that encounter with daniels, the judge also finding trump in contempt of court for the 10th time after he violated the limited gag order in the case by commenting about the jury in a recent interview, the judge tell
mcconney, testifying that only trump could sign those checks. defense attorneys trying to distance trump from the pair's plan, asking mcconney president trump did not ask you to do any of the things that you just described, correct? mcconney replying he did not trump improperly, calling it a legal expense when he repaid cohen, according to prosecutors. but defense attorneys asking mcconney about that classification, who said it may have been categorized that way because of the trump...
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>> jeffrey mcconney for sure. jeffrey mcconney was the x controller at the trump organization. he was on the 26 floor which is where trump has his office a michael cohen once had his office. the kids are on the 25th floor. to give an idea of how one side he is and the whole operation, it's a small family business. it's run by a small family business. it's important to understand that. he was involved in facilitating the repayments to michael cohen. he ran through two big things. one was explaining the handwriting of allen weisselberg on the bank statement from michael cohen's shell company he used to pay stormy daniels' lawyer. that was interesting. if you only have michael cohen describing the handwriting, you might say you don't know that allen weisselberg's handwriting. >> they are backing it up. >> when mcconney says it, there is a degree of credibility that any on the witness could bring in this case. it kind of shows there is this -- two times for tax. this is fascinating because he is basically saying that these legal expenses were treated as legal expenses. the prosecut
>> jeffrey mcconney for sure. jeffrey mcconney was the x controller at the trump organization. he was on the 26 floor which is where trump has his office a michael cohen once had his office. the kids are on the 25th floor. to give an idea of how one side he is and the whole operation, it's a small family business. it's run by a small family business. it's important to understand that. he was involved in facilitating the repayments to michael cohen. he ran through two big things. one was...
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mcconney later how they happen. the biggest question the defense raised in the cases, if michael cohen paid stormy daniels 130 grand to cover up the affair with trump, why was cohen reimbursed $400,000 in return? thanks to financial documents presented as evidence today, we learned how that came to be the case. a quick word of advice would be felons, hopefully you're not watching, but if you are, if you're planning on taking part in a criminal conspiracy, i would suggest not taking handwritten notes outlining the entire plan but that seems to be what happened here. first up is this document. a bank statement for the $130,000 payment which was annotated by allen weisselberg. a man who is clearly not a mastermind since he sitting in jail as we speak. according to the notes, another $50,000 was added onto for repayments to accompany for tech services. that total was grossed up. a practice in which the trump organization overpaid cohen to cover his tax liabilities. another 60 was added on top as a bonus, apparently for
mcconney later how they happen. the biggest question the defense raised in the cases, if michael cohen paid stormy daniels 130 grand to cover up the affair with trump, why was cohen reimbursed $400,000 in return? thanks to financial documents presented as evidence today, we learned how that came to be the case. a quick word of advice would be felons, hopefully you're not watching, but if you are, if you're planning on taking part in a criminal conspiracy, i would suggest not taking handwritten...
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at the trump org, mcconney was tasked with getting michael cohen paid back for the hush money. and he confirmed the checks to cohen came from trump's personal bank account. oh, personal handwritten checks? amateur move. he should've used zelle. you know their tagline —- zelle. i think it's like venmo with more buttons? mcconney is an expert witness because his time at the trump org dates all the way back to 1987. in fact, mcconney's son justin was the person who basically ran trump's twitter feed before trump learned how to do it himslf, something justin described as "like the moment the dinosaurs learned to open doors in 'jurassic park.'" i'm told we have footage of the moment his staff learned he was doing his own tweets. >> hold on to your butts. ' >> stephen: donald trump isn't always in court, sometimes he's out shaking his moneymaker to pay his legal bills. that's what he did at mar-a-lago this weekend. at an event saturday, donors reportedly paid at least $40,000 to attend. but according to leaked audio, trump complained about having to take so many pictures with donor
at the trump org, mcconney was tasked with getting michael cohen paid back for the hush money. and he confirmed the checks to cohen came from trump's personal bank account. oh, personal handwritten checks? amateur move. he should've used zelle. you know their tagline —- zelle. i think it's like venmo with more buttons? mcconney is an expert witness because his time at the trump org dates all the way back to 1987. in fact, mcconney's son justin was the person who basically ran trump's twitter...
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on the witness stand is the former trump organization controller jeff mcconney. he's been explain how mike cohen was reimbursed eventually for using his own money to pay stormy but mcconney said he knew nothing about any agreement ordeal for her alleged hush money payments. he sent allen weisselberg, the trump cfo at the time, said they were approved by eric trump. the former presidents on who happened to be in court today with them. the balance came from trump's own personal checking account. in those checks to michael cohen were marked for legal expenses. the defense says the former president did think just that. that he was paying michael cohen for being his lawyer but prosecutors have of course said that is not true. the day started with the former president learning he has to write another check, this time for violating the gag order again. the judge find a trump $1,000 for an attack he made on the jury. he told him if he does not stop, he could go behind bars. "the last thing i want to consider is jail" said the judge. "you are a former president and possib
on the witness stand is the former trump organization controller jeff mcconney. he's been explain how mike cohen was reimbursed eventually for using his own money to pay stormy but mcconney said he knew nothing about any agreement ordeal for her alleged hush money payments. he sent allen weisselberg, the trump cfo at the time, said they were approved by eric trump. the former presidents on who happened to be in court today with them. the balance came from trump's own personal checking account....
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mcconney? no. before trump became president, after an invoice was approved and a check was cut, who had signature authority? answer, just donald trump. question, after trump became president, eric trump, donald trump junior and allen weisselberg, how many signatures were needed? over $10,000 it had to be two. as vaughn said, those checks were signed by donald trump. they made their way to the front page of the "new york times" and the jury today saw them. >> the document that your team just put up, that's exhibit 35. exhibit 35 and exhibit 36 are the star exhibits so far. the handwriting that is on the left of the screen, the witness today made clear that that was allen weisselberg. this shot is exhibit 36. that was described as the chicken scratching of jeff mcconney. they both are -- you have these two intern trump organization witnesses who have written these things. one is the controller, one is the chief financial officer. the reason it's so devastating with respect to the scheme is this is su
mcconney? no. before trump became president, after an invoice was approved and a check was cut, who had signature authority? answer, just donald trump. question, after trump became president, eric trump, donald trump junior and allen weisselberg, how many signatures were needed? over $10,000 it had to be two. as vaughn said, those checks were signed by donald trump. they made their way to the front page of the "new york times" and the jury today saw them. >> the document that...
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there was no question there to tarasoff, and jeffrey mcconney they testified about the foreign $20,000, but breakdown for us about what that was showing to the jury that they did some math. yeah, they arithmetic. is there. >> how does that translate? >> thanks. number one, that the structuring of the payments and $35,000, then we see it here. might look suspicious on its face and the i think the biggest concern for all parties involved came on cross-examination where they asked jeffrey mcconney directly did you hear donald trump direct these payments and forgive me, i'm paraphrasing a little bit and he said no. and then they said no further questions, your honore, because a big part of the defense's case, as arguing and they said in their opening statement, they're going to say it and they're closing them to keep hammering this point but there's no direct link between donald trump and the provision of the payments. now, you can establish that someone knew that payments were being made by having every employee& is organization say yeah, it's a small business and he knows what's happenin
there was no question there to tarasoff, and jeffrey mcconney they testified about the foreign $20,000, but breakdown for us about what that was showing to the jury that they did some math. yeah, they arithmetic. is there. >> how does that translate? >> thanks. number one, that the structuring of the payments and $35,000, then we see it here. might look suspicious on its face and the i think the biggest concern for all parties involved came on cross-examination where they asked...
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there's a whole lot of drama in the courtroom before mcconney was sworn in. how close is donald trump to being put behind bars for his ongoing gag order violations. we'll explain the most expolice -- explicit warning after donald trump was found in criminal contempt again today. let's get into the testimony happening right now. and joining us from outside the courthouse is nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian. so bring us up to speed on what's happening right now in the courtroom? >> reporter: so, you just mentioned her, deborah tarasoff, she is a supervisor for accounts payable. she has been working for the trump organization since 2000. so 24 years. by the way, she is the first current employee for the trump organization to take the stand and testify. she still works for the trump organization. the way i'm seeing this, ana, is completing the circle with the whole process. we're talking about a lot of the paperwork being submitted for evidence, and how they came to make the payoff. we heard from another witness talking about the moneys, the $4
there's a whole lot of drama in the courtroom before mcconney was sworn in. how close is donald trump to being put behind bars for his ongoing gag order violations. we'll explain the most expolice -- explicit warning after donald trump was found in criminal contempt again today. let's get into the testimony happening right now. and joining us from outside the courthouse is nbc news national correspondent, yasmin vossoughian. so bring us up to speed on what's happening right now in the...
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well, you have jeff mcconney and this is not borrowing a pair from the january 6th committee. these are insiders to the trump organization. these are not friends of democrats. these are people in the trump organization. where are we going to go from here? i think there is a good argument for closing the case out, but i don't think that's what's going to happen. at the end of the day today, they said it's probably got two weeks left. that means we are probably going to hear from michael cohen. we are certainly going to hear from some insiders at the white house as to the mechanics. it's pretty clear as we know it but i think we are going to get a little bit more detail about what is presented to donald trump as president and that he sees the invoice attached to the bill, so he signed the check. it's got an invoice. it is stapled together and set back so those invoices are presented at the same time. that is going to be an interesting fact. the invoices are interesting and i think we will hear more about that because they talk about current work that is being done and of course
well, you have jeff mcconney and this is not borrowing a pair from the january 6th committee. these are insiders to the trump organization. these are not friends of democrats. these are people in the trump organization. where are we going to go from here? i think there is a good argument for closing the case out, but i don't think that's what's going to happen. at the end of the day today, they said it's probably got two weeks left. that means we are probably going to hear from michael cohen....
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where mcconney said, essentially let's chalk it up, put it down as lawyer fees, put it down as legal fees. here we go. please pay from the trust post to legal expenses. put retainer for the month of january and february in the description. now that right there is the essence of the crime. it doesn't quite get them all the way there because on cross-examination, mcconney was asked, but trump didn't give you that order. you never even really spoke to trump and he said that's right, but that's a big fact for the prosecution. another really important piece of evidence, it's a handwritten notes. i think it's government exhibit 36. and in case anyone wants to look it up and what this does, it's allen weisselberg's handwriting, jeffery mcconney said, i recognize that handwriting i worked with a guy for 30 something years and lunch everyday for 35-year? exactly what this does is this shows exactly how they calculated the origin, $20,000 that michael cohen was reimbursed it michael cohen's going to say exactly what this shows. this piece of evidence will backed up michael cohen in an importan
where mcconney said, essentially let's chalk it up, put it down as lawyer fees, put it down as legal fees. here we go. please pay from the trust post to legal expenses. put retainer for the month of january and february in the description. now that right there is the essence of the crime. it doesn't quite get them all the way there because on cross-examination, mcconney was asked, but trump didn't give you that order. you never even really spoke to trump and he said that's right, but that's a...
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but on cross-examination mcconney said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business records. another trump organization employee, debra tarasoff, testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks including to cohen, which were shown to the jury saying "if he didn't want to sign it he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie and it was black and that's what he uses." >> vaughn, the prosecution also giving an indication of the timing of this case. >> reporter: yeah, lester. prosecutors said they intend to call witnesses for about the next two weeks. at that point mr. trump's team will be able to present its own defense. and of course the question of whether the former president will take the stand himself. lester? >> all right. vaughn hillyard in new york tonight. thank you. >>> there is a new severe weather threat we're following tonight after that flooding emergency in texas led to more than 600 rescues in the houston area alone. officials say two people were killed including a 4-year-old boy. the flooding left homes submerged,
but on cross-examination mcconney said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business records. another trump organization employee, debra tarasoff, testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks including to cohen, which were shown to the jury saying "if he didn't want to sign it he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie and it was black and that's what he uses." >> vaughn, the prosecution also giving an indication of the timing of this case. >>...
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mcconney, jeff mcconney was the right-hand man of the cfo. allen weisselberg mcconney's email to tarasoff instructing her to pay from the trust post to business expense and put retainer. this was tarasoff, i believe is the young woman who used to work at grocery store and then was hired by the trump organization and she basically was the person who fedex things to donald trump at the white house for him to sign. this has to do with the reimbursement of checks. each of these sentences should give you without a doubt, reasonable doubt. blanche says, blanche's reminding jurors at the trump organization, always labeled any expenses come coming from a lawyer as legal expenses. and says in the company system, arguing the government has tried to criminalize this practice that's absurd. it's not a crime. bland says he's really, there's really a disdain. the blanche is expressed as a stain, but also remember the jurors heard testimony about there being only a certain limited finite universe, universe of categories to characterize payments being made o
mcconney, jeff mcconney was the right-hand man of the cfo. allen weisselberg mcconney's email to tarasoff instructing her to pay from the trust post to business expense and put retainer. this was tarasoff, i believe is the young woman who used to work at grocery store and then was hired by the trump organization and she basically was the person who fedex things to donald trump at the white house for him to sign. this has to do with the reimbursement of checks. each of these sentences should...
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in court this morning prosecutors called jeff mcconney. he is the former trump organization controller. his testimony is designed to show how the company knowingly reimbursed michael cohen for the money he laid out to pay stormy daniels and that they were aware that cohen was not being paid for legal services as the former president has claimed. but so far through his about two hours or so of testimony mcconney has not done one thing that is very important. he hasn't tied the former president directly into those payments. he hasn't said whether or not the former president even knew about them, what they were for. so far said he only discussed this with former trump cfo weiselberg. that could be a major boon to the president's defense if mcconney cannot tie the president directly into that. harris, back to you. >> harris: i was just making a note of what you were saying. it is helpful for the defense the controller was not aware of the cohen payments being doubled also for taxes. we have producers and journalists and everybody inside and ou
in court this morning prosecutors called jeff mcconney. he is the former trump organization controller. his testimony is designed to show how the company knowingly reimbursed michael cohen for the money he laid out to pay stormy daniels and that they were aware that cohen was not being paid for legal services as the former president has claimed. but so far through his about two hours or so of testimony mcconney has not done one thing that is very important. he hasn't tied the former president...
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mcconney testified he was told by weisselberg trump was reimbursing his lawyer. a former accountant testified weisselberg was a person who had his hands in everything but would run financial decisions by trump. which leads to this. >> sitting president trump in the oval office for the first time. he says to me something to the effect of, don't worry, michael. your january and february reimbursement checks are coming. >> and yesterday, we heard from madeleine westerhoutwesterhout, personal testimony when he was president who testified his trump's personal signing of checks. back with me are lisa reuben and andrew weissmann. that is the case basically for it being an illegal sort of scheme. i want to hit you with just really quickly before you react to that, somewhat breaking news. i don't know why trump's truth social is breaking news, but he tweeted out judge merchan refused to put a gag order on the truly out of control people. only the president, the presidential candidate, me, mistrial. thoughts? >> well, one of those people is a criminal defendant. and judge
mcconney testified he was told by weisselberg trump was reimbursing his lawyer. a former accountant testified weisselberg was a person who had his hands in everything but would run financial decisions by trump. which leads to this. >> sitting president trump in the oval office for the first time. he says to me something to the effect of, don't worry, michael. your january and february reimbursement checks are coming. >> and yesterday, we heard from madeleine westerhoutwesterhout,...
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jeff mcconney said he didn't see one. on cross-examination, trump's lawyers raised the possibility that it could have been a verbal agreement, and everybody in the court was like, what? that just didn't add up. so he actually was saying, when michael cohen was submitting them, that a lot of them were for legal services. that's going to be, i think the trump case is going to be these were legitimate payments for legal services. but it didn't add up. there's not even a written agreement down for a retainer for michael cohen. none of it really added up at the end of the day. i can see where trump's lawyers are going. they're going to make it out like these were legal fees but they don't have a written agreement on that. >> and the thing i just keep coming back to is, yes, michael cohen was donald trump's attorney, so obviously he was paying him to be hiattorney, but i can't get to what would cause michael cohen without donald trump's knowledge or consent or on his orders to on his own pay off a porn star that he himself had
jeff mcconney said he didn't see one. on cross-examination, trump's lawyers raised the possibility that it could have been a verbal agreement, and everybody in the court was like, what? that just didn't add up. so he actually was saying, when michael cohen was submitting them, that a lot of them were for legal services. that's going to be, i think the trump case is going to be these were legitimate payments for legal services. but it didn't add up. there's not even a written agreement down for...
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his last check from the trump organization, we've had testimony from jeff mcconney was in january of 2017, his first check from trump or the trump trust is in february of 2017, and it's for $35,000 as i've said, if you divide $375,000 by at 12, you get 31,000 and change the math works out. the timing works out, the problem is, michael cohen says, i didn't do anything. i didn't do any legal work. and the trump team has taken on the burden that they're going to what prove you did do legal work. >> yeah. he said no legal services and also so grossed up but when you look at this and there were there was a big knockout blow from the trump team on tuesday. obviously, they were only there for a little bit. they've got that all day today to kind of prepare what do they need to accomplish tomorrow? all right. thing to cross-examination away. they started out, they completely went flat. it was completely underwhelming. so they are strongest points should have came out on tuesday, went once they starting now because you've got to think it's the beginning of cross-examination. you got to come ou
his last check from the trump organization, we've had testimony from jeff mcconney was in january of 2017, his first check from trump or the trump trust is in february of 2017, and it's for $35,000 as i've said, if you divide $375,000 by at 12, you get 31,000 and change the math works out. the timing works out, the problem is, michael cohen says, i didn't do anything. i didn't do any legal work. and the trump team has taken on the burden that they're going to what prove you did do legal work....
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and allen weisselberg's right-hand man, mcconney, both of which seem to have this like a receipt of this for this, this, for this, this for this, these are the falsification allegations are built into this. the idea that donald trump was being stolen from within this document and no, certainly not nine i'll trump, but nobody would would sign off on something if they knew all the details in which they're actually being stolen from to how much do you think that undermines the case? because one of the things landed davis, michael cohen's former lawyer and friend had said on this very set last week forget michael cohen, look at the documents, will now we know the documents have falsehoods, not just the alleged falsehoods that the prosecution is alleging, but michael cohen falsehoods yeah. >> i think it's incredibly damaging. right. because this whole time we've been saying, as you said, look at the documents documents don't have a motive to lie, but there are lies now in these documents. i think the prosecution is really going to have to focus on the fact that the math kind of adds up, right
and allen weisselberg's right-hand man, mcconney, both of which seem to have this like a receipt of this for this, this, for this, this for this, these are the falsification allegations are built into this. the idea that donald trump was being stolen from within this document and no, certainly not nine i'll trump, but nobody would would sign off on something if they knew all the details in which they're actually being stolen from to how much do you think that undermines the case? because one of...
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this admission to a reimbursement with what we saw in the documentation with geoff mcconney that showed gross up and double the amount to michael cohen. do those two these two things fit? >> absolutely. they completely fit because that is actually mcconney as the control of trump organization and weisselberg as the cfo in their handwriting being down the true scheme, the true underlying scheme, which is as terry just said, it's a reimbursement and then they're grossing him up times two and then mcconney actually writes for taxes. and what is the predicate crime here that can make this a felony that they were doing it for taxes. that was committing tax fraud because on their tax papers, they were not saying that this was a hush-money payment. there was thank legal services. that's why he earned twice the amount. >> so now it's all there. it's just getting donald trump to know that he knew that that piece of paper happened, but that grows up happened. that's right. >> and that's what we're going to see if they are able to prove with this crucial michael cohen who we anticipate coming at a
this admission to a reimbursement with what we saw in the documentation with geoff mcconney that showed gross up and double the amount to michael cohen. do those two these two things fit? >> absolutely. they completely fit because that is actually mcconney as the control of trump organization and weisselberg as the cfo in their handwriting being down the true scheme, the true underlying scheme, which is as terry just said, it's a reimbursement and then they're grossing him up times two...
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the trump trial continues downtown new york and jeff mcconney is testifying. he was the company's controller and he is a prosecution witness and this trial. prosecutors trying to show how michael cohen was paid in a way to avoid taxes. that's what they are attempting to show. there is a criminal defense attorney here. why would that matter when it comes to this case? >> because if there is a reasonable hypothesis of innocence he walks. one of the hypothesis is he didn't do all these things. it was cohen. i assure you he will be a vice rated when he testifies and blame everything on cohen. they have to show it was donald trump's idea. let's create the shell company and label it as legal fees when it is really a campaign expense, which i find to be ludicrous. they have to pin it to him or else there is a reasonable hypothesis of innocence and it's not guilty. >> bill: looking through the series of emails from our producers and reporters inside the court room in the overfill area they are driving at a tax issue here, mark. we were talking with can kerri and jonna
the trump trial continues downtown new york and jeff mcconney is testifying. he was the company's controller and he is a prosecution witness and this trial. prosecutors trying to show how michael cohen was paid in a way to avoid taxes. that's what they are attempting to show. there is a criminal defense attorney here. why would that matter when it comes to this case? >> because if there is a reasonable hypothesis of innocence he walks. one of the hypothesis is he didn't do all these...
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mcconney or even maybe a michael cohen in full. but they certainly know rudy giuliani what's the impact of even having him be discussed in this way well, i think one of the biggest issues here and this equally applies for the prosecution and the defense is that it is head-spinning. the number. i mean, you just started naming people right? there are so many characters to the story to keep we track of. >> and so how are we expecting the jurors to keep track of that? >> and one of the jobs of a litigate or right of a trial attorney is to make sure that your story is understandable to the jury, that they can keep track of who all these players are. so yes, they may very well know who rudy giuliani is outside of the courtroom. but what is his role here? how are the prosecutors helping fit this into the narrative? and what's the defense going to do with that? and so part of this is just what are we doing to assist these jurors to actually make a decision at the end of the de and part of what my concern is for both sides is really thinkin
mcconney or even maybe a michael cohen in full. but they certainly know rudy giuliani what's the impact of even having him be discussed in this way well, i think one of the biggest issues here and this equally applies for the prosecution and the defense is that it is head-spinning. the number. i mean, you just started naming people right? there are so many characters to the story to keep we track of. >> and so how are we expecting the jurors to keep track of that? >> and one of the...
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when they really tried to pin down mcconney. okay. yes. said that he always wanted to his hands and things did things change after he won the election? yes, they did. was it more chaotic? he's a to say the least when he was really trying to paint a portrait of pure okay, i'll set some point. now, i assume what we're going to start seeing in the cross-examination of madeline is the other side of that, then asking her what was it like at the white house at that time? the defense asking was it chaotic in the white house? was there a lot of people coming in and out? was he sitting there citing these checks meticulously or were there people in and out of the room? they're going to try to build all of what was happening around this. so chaotic that it would be impossible for him to be actually paying attention and knowing exactly what he was doing as he was trying to one, learn how to be president. because as we know former president did not know or think at that point he was going to end up being the president back in 2016 and that w
when they really tried to pin down mcconney. okay. yes. said that he always wanted to his hands and things did things change after he won the election? yes, they did. was it more chaotic? he's a to say the least when he was really trying to paint a portrait of pure okay, i'll set some point. now, i assume what we're going to start seeing in the cross-examination of madeline is the other side of that, then asking her what was it like at the white house at that time? the defense asking was it...
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after the break, we heard from a woman who worked in the accounting department under jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselburg. she was the one who labeled those checks as legal expenses. that was all just one day of testimony. there is still a lot more to come in this case, which prosecutors now say is halfway finished, at least for their part. with michael cohen and stormy daniels still yet to testify, it is going to be a pretty interesting couple of weeks, to say the least. the southern district attorney of new york, where he led prosecutions against white collar criminals and he joined me now. i am not a lawyer, i tried to summarize what we learned today. i tried to summarize, i talked to a lot of smart people. i tried to summarize what we learned today. did i miss anything, did i get anything wrong? >> that was a pretty good summary. what you heard today was testimony that was not so dramatic. not as dramatic and salacious as some of the testimony we have heard before. we are certain to occur in the coming days but it goes to the core of the basic criminal charge here, which is fals
after the break, we heard from a woman who worked in the accounting department under jeffrey mcconney and allen weisselburg. she was the one who labeled those checks as legal expenses. that was all just one day of testimony. there is still a lot more to come in this case, which prosecutors now say is halfway finished, at least for their part. with michael cohen and stormy daniels still yet to testify, it is going to be a pretty interesting couple of weeks, to say the least. the southern...
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mcconney was asked about his involvement in approving several payments to former trump attorney michael cohen around the time cohen paid stormy daniels $130,000. prosecutors are trying to prove trump was directly involved with falsifying business records to conceal another crime, like tax fraud, or to interfere with the 2016 election. hundreds of thousands of dollars to cohen were marked as legal fees. one payment was doubled. >> for tax reasons, it's clear a crime was committed and it's clear what happened. did donald trump do it? that's the thing that i think i think is, is what is missing. >> the prosecution's key witness will be michael cohen. he could take the stand as soon as this week in new york. conner hanson, fox news. >> a spike in spending in san francisco and the governor say tourists are coming back. but why? the numbers don't tell the entire story. >> also had three surfers found shot to death in a vacation spot in mexico not known for violence. investigators now say they know why the three were killed. >> also check out changes coming up if me higher shipping rates may b
mcconney was asked about his involvement in approving several payments to former trump attorney michael cohen around the time cohen paid stormy daniels $130,000. prosecutors are trying to prove trump was directly involved with falsifying business records to conceal another crime, like tax fraud, or to interfere with the 2016 election. hundreds of thousands of dollars to cohen were marked as legal fees. one payment was doubled. >> for tax reasons, it's clear a crime was committed and it's...
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. >> mcconney was asked about his involvement in approving several payments to former trump attorney michael cohen around the time cohen paid stormy daniels $130,000. prosecutors are trying to prove trump was directly involved with falsifying business records to conceal another crime, like tax fraud, or to interfere with the 2016 election. hundreds of thousands of dollars to cohen were marked as legal fees. one payment was doubled for tax reasons, it's clear a crime was committed and it's clear what happened. >> did donald trump do it? that's the thing that i think i think is, is what is missing. >> the prosecution's key witness will be michael cohen. he could take the stand as soon as this week in new york. connor hansen, fox news one state senator, says self checkout kiosks are contributing to a rise in shoplifting from stores across california. >> new proposed legislation aims to address this issue. ktvu tom vacar joins us now live from berkeley safeway store that's just across the street from a big cvs pharmacy. and, tom, how would this bill help to tackle the problem? >> self-ch
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we expect the defense asked to continue cross-examination of the onetime controller jeff mcconney. the judge ruled that trump violated his gag order for a tenth time now and threaten to throw the former president in the slammer if that continues. nate foley is live at the new york supreme court in new york city. if you wanted to add 5-10 points to the president's popularity, go ahead and throw him in jail. >> you can bet a lot of people will feel that way, john. former president trump has complained about the gag order while walking into court today. he just walked in for the afternoon session and did not speak to reporters. it remains to be seen who will be the next witness on the stand after jeff mcconney, the former controller that you mention who testified this morning. he took questions from both former president trump's lawyers as well as the prosecution and he detailed payments to michael cohen including from president trump's personal account. he said the signed checks to the white house but it did not show that trump was aware of any scheme to reimburse them for payments t
we expect the defense asked to continue cross-examination of the onetime controller jeff mcconney. the judge ruled that trump violated his gag order for a tenth time now and threaten to throw the former president in the slammer if that continues. nate foley is live at the new york supreme court in new york city. if you wanted to add 5-10 points to the president's popularity, go ahead and throw him in jail. >> you can bet a lot of people will feel that way, john. former president trump has...
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taking the stand, jeffrey mcconney who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department, testifying about invoices, describing the reimbursements as legal expenses, saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen $420,000 for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. most from mr. trump's personal account. but on cross examination, mcconnie said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business record. another trump organization employee testifying about mr. trump's process of signing checks, including to cohen, which were shown to the jury, saying, if he didn't want to sign it, he didn't sign it. it was signed in sharpie, and it was black, and that's what he uses. now the prosecution indicated today that they still have the number of witnesses to go. about two weeks, they expect, to continue to present their case against the defendant donald trump. at that point, the defense team for donald trump will be able to present its own defense. and of course the outstanding question of whether the former president himself will take the stand to make
taking the stand, jeffrey mcconney who oversaw the trump organization's accounting department, testifying about invoices, describing the reimbursements as legal expenses, saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen $420,000 for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. most from mr. trump's personal account. but on cross examination, mcconnie said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the business record. another trump organization employee testifying...
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jeffrey mcconney, who had a long-time close relationship with donald trump, was the one individual who's kind of working as the middle man when it came to the invoices from michael cohen, who was seeking repayment for the money that he paid to stormy daniels before the 2016 election and then ultimately what turned into checks personally signed by donald trump. and is sort of that middle man overseeing the accounting department. mcconney testified today that he was under the impression and was told that these were in fact reimbursement checks, not legal expenses as were suggested in the filings. of course this is important because donald trump has been charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records on how they explained away the money that was being sent from donald trump to michael cohen after the 2016 election. but also notably today was that gag order, which was a big deal to hear the words from the judge fining donald trump for the tenth time to have violated the gag order. this one specifically as it pertained to concerns about the jury and donald trump's potential harm
jeffrey mcconney, who had a long-time close relationship with donald trump, was the one individual who's kind of working as the middle man when it came to the invoices from michael cohen, who was seeking repayment for the money that he paid to stormy daniels before the 2016 election and then ultimately what turned into checks personally signed by donald trump. and is sort of that middle man overseeing the accounting department. mcconney testified today that he was under the impression and was...
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you know, he understood -- jeff mcconney understood from allen weisselberg that there was going to be a reimbursement to michael cohen, and donald trump knew that there would be a reimbursement as well. there is a document, a very important document that donald trump signed saying that michael cohen was going to be reimbursed for expenses in 2016. there's now -- the burden of proof is not on the defense, but the defense presented no theory when it put forth its case as to what those expenses were, and the expenses were between 100,000 to $250,000. so if it's not these checks that are the reimbursement and these are for future legal expenses in 2017, what were these other payments for? so again, i think the evidence does come together really well that donald trump, in fact, knew that these payments of $35,000 checks each month were not for future legal expenses but were for the reimbursements. >> and kristy, do you ever binge watch like those episodic shows like "ozark" where you have to catch up on the story? yeah? my question for you as a prosecutor is how will the d.a. take that app
you know, he understood -- jeff mcconney understood from allen weisselberg that there was going to be a reimbursement to michael cohen, and donald trump knew that there would be a reimbursement as well. there is a document, a very important document that donald trump signed saying that michael cohen was going to be reimbursed for expenses in 2016. there's now -- the burden of proof is not on the defense, but the defense presented no theory when it put forth its case as to what those expenses...
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that's on that document that jeff mcconney, the controller at the trump organization, testified to see you right now. as you can see, they're plus $50,000. that's what he said about right now to red finch for tech services. obviously the only about $20,000 that he paid them. and cohen says that they wanted the full payment of $50,000. did they accept the money they received? cohen says, yes, sir. >> in response to i think what they're trying to do here is add confusion to something that is a actual physical thing. i mean, this is allen weisselberg's handwriting with actual numbers, which adds up to the crime that trump is being charged with here. and if todd blanche can money this up, although this is interesting, this is so says question to you, stole from the trump organization asking noting cohen was reimbursed $100,000. he's trying to make cohen look shady in the way that he was being paid back, how much he was being paid back, you didn't just deal but $30,000 because it was grossed up, it was $60,000. blanche asked yes, sir. cohen says cohen has testified previously the prosecutio
that's on that document that jeff mcconney, the controller at the trump organization, testified to see you right now. as you can see, they're plus $50,000. that's what he said about right now to red finch for tech services. obviously the only about $20,000 that he paid them. and cohen says that they wanted the full payment of $50,000. did they accept the money they received? cohen says, yes, sir. >> in response to i think what they're trying to do here is add confusion to something that...
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today, we heard testimony from jeffrey mcconney. walk the jury through documents outlining payments that trump made to cohen in 2017. but mcconney failed to provide the crucial link between the crime and trump's knowledge of it, or he was he was unable to say that trumps specifically ordered any falsification of documents. how big a problem is that to the prosecution, do you think? >> i think it's a problem, but the problem that can be surmounted because we heard out of the gate and david pecker how there was no communication that was done by email and that was it's corroborated by his assistant at the time wrote a graph, but more important than that, you have other pieces of foundation 11 that are going to be very helpful. you have an email that don and eric proof of this. you have conversation or communication that legal did not approve of these retainers or pardon me, these invoices. it was just sent over and it's really p so who is bending, benefiting from believed that michael cohen had the authority to approve of these payment
today, we heard testimony from jeffrey mcconney. walk the jury through documents outlining payments that trump made to cohen in 2017. but mcconney failed to provide the crucial link between the crime and trump's knowledge of it, or he was he was unable to say that trumps specifically ordered any falsification of documents. how big a problem is that to the prosecution, do you think? >> i think it's a problem, but the problem that can be surmounted because we heard out of the gate and david...