today michael kimmage will in conversation with dr. linda kinstler, the executive editor of the dial and a contributing writer to the economist and the end to jewish. her book come to this court and cry how the holocaust ends when a wedding award in 2023. in this short listed for the wingate prize and jewish literature, she teaches at georgetown school of foreign service. so without further ado, please join me in welcoming to politics and prose michael kimmage and dr. linda kinstler. hello and it's wonderful to be here and to celebrate michael's achievement in the introduction of this important work of history to the world at this moment and thank you to our hosts of politics and prose for having us. i delighted to be talking about this book, which we have been talking about some years now. and really is a kind of comprehensive reflection of michael's deep years of thinking, both in policy and in academia, about the dynamics have led to the current or in ukraine. so to begin i wanted to ask you, michael, if you could speak to us a litt