michael schiffer, good to see before the committee.partment ways of extending beyond the 5 minutes so i hope that's the only thing you adopt from that experience. let me just say, our colleague was trying to get to this. at the end of the day, isn't what china often does is to trap many of these countries in debt diplomacy? >> that is exactly the behavior pattern we've seen, were china offers what appears to be an attractive proposition, but the backside of dirt and entrapment and leverage and additional openings for corrupt practices create serious problems down the line. debt but trap them in their political, diplomatic questions. >> yes. beijing is very skilled at using leverage. >> finally, secretary ratner, in march of 22 of the solomon islands and security agreement ostensibly aiming in part to address, quote, internal threats including protecting chinese owned businesses in the coand 23 the two countryside a deal on police cooperation as part of their comprehensive strategic partnership. while i certainly applaud last year'smbas