shuman as well as writer for the atlantic magazine.just say at the outset here that we will take audience questions for tur panel today and audience members members can submit questions via askac.org. so we will get to that at the end and feel free to jump in and ask questions. we will go to moderate discussion we won't be having opening remarks free-flowing conversation and so what i want to sta really a question for you broadly why is beijing interested in the global south to begin with? >> thank you very much for having me today. great to be here and focus on such important questions for a couple of days. well, i think interest in the global south is not new. dates back to decolonization movement. over time it has evolved over time and during the reform and opening period china's interest was more focused on economic developments and getting resources, raw material from the developing world and also asia way to affixuate taiwan's diplomatic space. it's looking at multidomains starting with the economic one developing the markets its