and i think importantly, mike hollingsworth , importantly, mike hollingsworth, what king charles has achieved is to remove the stigma around cancer. >> cancen >> yes, he has indeed. and that's a good thing. i'm not a monarchist, but i, i wish him well, obviously. and as a joint cancer sufferer, i empathise with him and i met him. i haven't met him as many times as you have, but you're not his bosom buddy. >> no, i invite you. >> no, i invite you. >> i'm not his bosom buddy. but i did go to the palace, not many weeks ago with my ex—wife. anne diamond . and i was amazed. diamond. and i was amazed. somebody who'd never really been a monarchist herself was absolutely struck by him. and, like a lot of people, almost went weak at the knees when she was talking to him. you can see her there. and if you look very closely, she's she looks like she's gone weak in the knees. most definitely. yeah. >> and , you are in the >> and, you are in the background there. did your trip to the palace turn you into a monarchist, no . i like all the. monarchist, no. i like all the. all the palace stuff , b